Day 11 - Kitchen Remodel: Hardware & Range Hood

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The hardware installers showed up on time this morning. The guy who does it is also the demo guy. I wasn't sure I wanted a demo guy drilling delicate holes and trying to make my door pulls plumb and spaced correctly. To me, it seemed like that sort of job as compared to bashing holes in walls required conflicting skill sets. But the Kitchen Design Center swore he would do a good job or they would buy new cabinet doors.

When he arrived, I said, "Hey, your referrers said you never mess up and you always do a perfect job." I always butter them up. He replied, "They were lying to you. This is tough, and I have to concentrate."

All righty, then, I did not try to engage him in conversation and left him alone to focus on plumb and straight. Fortunately, the cabinet pulls were installed beautifully. Whew. He had me going there. I don't know if it's his daughter who works with him or some waif he picked up pawing through donations at the Salvation Army, but she continually tripped over her own feet and dropped stuff. I was a bit concerned as to whether the job would end up well, but my anxiety was for naught. Which is better than the alternative, in my book.

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Then, the range hood guy showed up rather late in the day. He ripped the box apart, left all of the cardboard and plastic crap for me to clean up and dispose of, and went to work. He was here for four hours. He asked if I wanted the vent 29 inches above the counter or 36. Since I'm not the one to bonk my head on it, I said 29 inches would work, figuring closer to the actual grease and flames was probably better. I am so tired of the kitchen smoke alarm going off.

I found him later studying the stainless surround and looking perplexed. There was about 3 inches from the top of the bottom of the vent that needed to be covered. He was thinking about cutting it to fit. But there were holes in the bottom of the surround, and if he cut the top, it would leave a jagged edge. I suggested he cut the top of it three inches down and then drill holes, so the top edge would be finished. That had not occurred to him. He liked the idea, and that's what he did. Still, I should not have had to come up with that suggestion.

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He put the vent in, but he's not finished. He is planning to hook up the pipe in the attic at an angle to match up with the roof jack already in place for the old water heater. I asked if this was to code, because the city is sure to require it, but he assured me it was. The thing is I have a roofer who will install a new roof jack for free, so if the pipe would cost less to run straight up, it would make more sense to do it that way. Nevertheless, the cost of running the pipe doubled the installation price for the range hood from $180 to $365. Why didn't he just say "double the estimate" and be done with it?

He is coming back on Monday to finish the job, because I am showing homes in Land Park tomorrow and in Natomas on Saturday. Plus I have a closing and a final walk-through late tomorrow afternoon. I can't be hanging around the house all day waiting for contractors to show up . . . or  not show up.

I'm lucky in that this is the first estimate that turned out to be double.

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Elizabeth Weintraub is co-partner of Weintraub & Wallace Team of Top Producing Realtors, an author, home buying expert at The Balance, a Land Park resident, and a veteran real estate agent who specializes in older, classic homes in Land Park, Curtis Park, Midtown, Carmichael and East Sacramento, as well as tract homes in Elk Grove, Natomas, Roseville and Lincoln. Call Elizabeth Weintraub at 916.233.6759. Put our combined 80 years of real estate experience to work for you. Broker-Associate at RE/MAX Gold. DRE License # 00697006.

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Henry Birchfield
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Don't know the building codes for your area but if I were you I would contact the your local building code inspector just to clarify it. If the water heater is still using that, I could see a problem when you turn on your range vent that could potentially cause gases from the water heater to back up and even the possiblility of a fire if enough grease  was to accumulate and run down into the water heater. So to be on the safe side I'd call the inspector and ask them instead of taking the contractors word for it.

Jul 31, 2008 03:40 PM #1
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I appreciate your concern, Henry, but the water heater is not using that roof jack. We had the water heater removed and installed a tankless water heater on the exterior of our home. I was concerned about the number of angles in the pipe.  Code is very specific as to the run and angles. We are way under maximum on this. It's always a good idea to check the angles. Some codes allow 33- some 45-degree angles and only within specific run lengths. I put in a fireplace once that allowed only two angles and within 10-feet of each other. So it always pays to ask or double check if you are unsure of what you are doing.

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Jul 31, 2008 03:46 PM #2
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Henry Birchfield
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Elizabeth, that should work as I was concerned that the water heater was still in use.

Jul 31, 2008 03:51 PM #3
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Robert Machado
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I am getting ready for a remodel and your post makes me happy to be using a general contractor that I know and trust.  I hate waiting for people to show up.  Your kitchen looks very nice.

Jul 31, 2008 05:04 PM #4
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Gary Woltal
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Elizabeth, you know me with your remodel posts, seeing something no one else sees.... calling the little assistant a waif from the Salvation Army? Not only are you brilliantly funny but I think you are a novel writer or poet yourself. Secondly, now that you are on Day 11 (you know this is hard for me with my attention deficit self) I am convinced you are the do it yourselfer type. You could run a side construction business and do better than ANY of these men. Just my two cents : ) But hey, I am the Grand Observer of Life. You have this talent for being a Construction Superintendent.

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Elizabeth,

It is strange for me. I am reading about something that I would hate to do, and it is interesting to read.

I guess you do it well enough that I do not run. Even considering that it is 2:50 AM here in Florida.

Good night!

Jul 31, 2008 06:48 PM #6
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Elizabeth, thank you for continuing to provide us with such interesting eye candy and commentary. I enjoy giggling with you in the morning. Looking forward to your next post. Enjoy your day. Regards, C.

Jul 31, 2008 11:01 PM #7
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Hi Henry: That's why I referred to it as the "old" water heater. :)

Hi Robert: Is it Jeff, by any chance?

Hi Gary: I may have the talent for being a construction supervisor, but that's not a job I'd like to do. I'm an organized person and detail oriented, which is why my paperwork is always in order at escrow closings, and I stay on top of what needs to be done to get an escrow closed. You might not know this, but I was once an escrow officer. :)

Hi Jon: I think I got the biggest kick out of your comment this morning. Thinking about a guy in Florida reading my blog about a subject he has no interest in at 3 o'clock in the morning . . .

Hi C: I will post Day 12 tonight when I get back. It's been interesting already, and it's not even noon here.

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Aug 01, 2008 06:10 AM #8
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Did you ever see the movie "The Money Pit"? I was in construction for 16 years and you are doing well because there are so many varibles and of course the ubiquitous contractor reply ; "Two more weeks"!

Good luck

Aug 01, 2008 07:12 AM #9
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Barbara S. Duncan
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The cabinets look very nice with that tiny bit of shading in inside edges of the doors.  I also like the pulls. 

Aug 01, 2008 10:24 AM #10
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Hi Russell: Fortunately, this is not turning into a Money Pit, knock on wood.

Hi Barbara: That shading is called "glazing," and it's ebony. Hey, Adam picked out the pulls. Well, I narrowed down his choices, and then he chose the one he liked. He doesn't like to do this, either, but he has a good eye -- so I use it. LOL. Besides, he should be somewhat involved, even if it's superfluous. He picked the dishwasher, too.

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Aug 01, 2008 10:28 AM #11
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When we were kids growing up you couldn't be called a "monkey's uncle!"  It was kinda like a double-dog dare.  So I double-dog dare you and you are a monkey's uncle if you don't snap his picture as soon as he walks in and sees the kitchen and then share it with your activerain friends.  He had good taste in the pulls.

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Elizabeth, no, my guy has built a new custom home for us and done two remodels in Land Park when we moved there. 

Aug 01, 2008 02:48 PM #13
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Things are coming right along, Elizabeth.  I can't wait to see the finished product.

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I still love the counter tops by the way!!  Keep it just the way it is!   :-)

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Aug 02, 2008 04:39 AM #15
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Hi Barbara: After that photo fiasco with the green beans and giant tomato, Adam won't let me publish any more photos of him online.

Hi Robert: I just wondered if it was Von Rotz because he does a lot of remodels in Land Park. He also works in Midtown, hoisting up those Craftsmans and building a first floor under them.

Hi Jesse: Well, you will see it soon. The countertops go in Monday, the sink, faucet, dishwasher and range on Tuesday.

Hi Ronald: Does make it easy to retrieve items without opening the drawer. :)

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Counter tops are SO overrated.

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Aug 04, 2008 04:00 AM #18
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Hey Ronald: They keep the crap out of your drawers. On the other hand, when I made my microwavable pizza tonight, I realized I had to actually OPEN a drawer to find the red pepper flakes, whereas before I could just reach down and grab it.

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:-D  Too funny!

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I'm glad you were amused, Ronald.

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