Hi Callie, I agree clients have to be extra careful. However the same can be said with an Attorney! You pay upfront yet you can not be guarentee that you're going to get the results you need!
Clark- You can if there's a money back guarentee. Maybe a track record? How bout no complaints?
Thank you for bring this out in the light!
Please feel free to post your blog on my group: Real Estate Fraud, Scams and Ponzi schemes REPORT THEM HERE: http://activerain.com/groups/FraudAlert
I created this group because I am fed up with all these scams! So if we do our part to flush out these scammers by blogging about it--we are done our public service.
If we ignore this problem and bury our heads in the sand-we are, in essence, helping the fraudsters to their job. Let's not continue the madness!
Remember, we Realtors get scammed too!
Please help me help others by reporting Scammers, Fraudsters, Swindlers!
Callie, it really is awful how people can prey on those in need. Unfortunately, time and time again we see the greed and dollar signs running in front of people's eyes when all that they can think of is the almighty buck! It's sickening.
You are so right. This has to be done the right way. Homeowners should be aware of who they are dealing with.
Aida- Thank you, I will post this in your group!
William- You can feel at ease that will will be sending people to a legit trustworthy company with a track record to prove it! Thanks for the referrals!
Lynn- Unfortunately there are predatory loss mitigation companies, as there were lenders. I agree with you 100%
Don- You are correct, that's why I do not hold back any information in hopes someone will read this and make and informative decision.
This is a great post. You provided a wealth of information, and I'm sure that both real estate professisonals and troubled homeowners will find this information very useful.
Callie,
Just yesterday I referred the son of a client to a loan modification specialist. He was quoted a total fee of $2500, of which $800 was to be upfront and nonrefundable. There also was no mention of a "money back guarantee".
Is your "money back guarantee" in writing? And if so, could you post a link to it or send it to me via email?
Thank you,
Brian
Sojourner47@comcast.net
Hi Everyone, I totally fell for it too, i'm so embarrassed and I feel so stupid. I paid FLM $2000 upfront and lost 3 months before I realized nothing had been done. Please be careful with who you give money to before they give you any product. Thank god i found this website because a HUD counselor from Hope Now gave it to me: loanfraudrecovery.org I got my money back finally with their help. It may be useful to other people, just putting it out there for anyone scammed like me. :(
I work for a home loan servicer. Never pay to get a modification because it can be done by yourself for FREE. Yes, you may have to be on the phone and visit a fax machine, but the way the investors look at it, that money you spend could be keeping your loan current... and then you are denied.
Jessica- There are a lot of scammers out there and that's why it's important to do your research thoroughly. Also, you can not charge an upfront fee unless you are either an Attorney or an Attorney based company. I'm glad you recovered your losses! And thank you for the useful information.
To Someonewhoknows- Just for the record many of my clients have tried to work directly with their lender and have either been denied for absurd reasons, have not been contacted in months, or has been offered a reinstatement plan that does not suit their current budget. It is not an easy task to obtain a loan modification yourself. Also, when you contact the lender for help you are at their mercy, there is no negotiation. If you had a bad tooth would you pull it out yourself or consult with a dentist?
We invested in SAVEMYHOMEUSA because of all the positive things we've heard from family, and because of the BBB rating it had. They boast a 100% money back guarantee but alas, WE WERE SCAMMED anyway.
We met 100% of their requirements. They did "negotiate" with our lender but we were denied an adjustment because 'after all the bills are paid for the month there is an access of $15.47'. Heaven forbid a car breakdown or our sump pump go out!!!
So according to savemyhomeusa we were supposed to get a check for a FULL refund. We FINALLY got a check after threatening them with a lawsuit. WE DID NOT GET A FULL REFUND like they said we would. We paid $1,995 for the program and only got $1,390 of it back. They scammed us $606.95.
Hey Jenny
I got scammed by SavemyhomeUSA also. Same thing; I paid them a fee, waited months for a "modification" which resulted in the same interest rate, same loan types, with just thousands added to the prinicple and the payment being 500 a month higher. Seriously? And, I was told that "is a great deal". What deal, I can go out into any street and hand over hundreds of dollars to someone without having to put it in writing if I want to just give my money away.
Also, the refund? Well at least your check cashed. I received mine and went to their bank to cash it; non-sufficient funds. What a shady company SavemyhomeUSA is. It is a felony, called check fraud to write a check on NSF. If they cover the check, great they're still a scam company (hence the request for refund). If they do not, I will be contacting district attorney, my attorney, and the attorney general.
By the way, I will be losing my home. I was told by one of the representatives to "stop paying your mortgage payment". Of course they tell you that they would never tell you that. Why wouldn't they want you to stop? It makes it easier for them to keep you hanging on, and in the end, they will give your information to another scam company that comes in like a buzzard looking for dead meat. Check out this website: http://www.motivatedsellermagnet.net/million_dollar_idea.html This website says they get most of their leads from SavemyhomeUSA.
Has anyone ever heard anything negitive about Homeowners Relief Group, Inc. They are located in San Juan Capistrano, Ca. They have a real office location. Are Attorney based. I can't fine anything about them on BBB. I also googled them and nothing negitive came up only their website. They do charge an up front fee. Their cost for a loan modification is $2495 and require 60% up front to start the negotiations.
Genny
Nicely written and informative blog Callie! Loan modification fraud is booming, along side the number of foreclosures. Its good to note that the Department of Financial Institution has advised homeowners to make sure their loan modification provider is licensed as a loan originator prior to using any of their services. Verifying a license at http://www.dfi.wa.gov/ is always recommended. As you suggest, knowing your rights and options is key, along with assuring you are doing business with a legitimate, and well-vouched-for company.
Ben M.
I think that your blog is great. I unfortunately came across it too late. I HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BY SAVEMYHOMEUSA for $3100.00 It has been a complete and total nightmare. I fell for their "money back guarantee" and I never recieved a penny back. Instead I seem to only get voicemails and nobody ever calls me back. Instead one of their employees sent a fax to my employer tellinh him that I call too much during the times I am on the clock. SO NOT ONLY AM I LOOSING MY HOUSE, NOT ONLY HAVE I BEEN BURNED BY SAVEMYHOMEUSA, BUT I MAY ALSO LOOSE MY JOB..... I plan on continuing to write the mortgage loan division, atty general and whoever it takes to make sure that this never happens to a struggling family again... SHAME ON YOU SAVEMYHOMEUSA
Wanted to add that Save My Home USA is a scam! We checked to BBB before deciding to go with them and they were accredited. Then... We paid them money they requested. We was already 3 months behind on our mortgage.
I had not heard from Save My Home USA in nearly 3 weeks so attempted to contact them to see what the deal was. No phone number work anymore, their website is being directed to a different web site lmprocessing and then I checked BBB website and they have been REVOKED! Now I am 8 months behind on my mortgage since Save My Home USA told me not to have contact with the bank of make any payments, we are out all the money we paid them and are probably def. going to lose our home unless our bank works with us!
If anyone finds information on Save My Home USA, please post it! The BBB even listed on their site that no one is able to get intouch with them!
I called Guardian Advocate Group to modify my loan way back in June. I talked to a guy named Gregg Shwack and was convinced that this was a legitimate loan modification company. I also had small email communication with Mike Luchen (CEO), who also assured me that I was in good hands.
FYI, Mike Luchen is in prison and you will not hear back from MIKE LUCHEN from the Guardian Advocate Group for a long long time...he has been convicted and is in jail! He evidently thought being a top agent gave hime the right to go against the law!
Coldwell Banker in White Plains has dropped him and his license and his listings have been assigned to other agents. Coldwell Banker has silenced their agents and have been told to say he has taken time off due to personal reasons.
I can't stand these people who make it bad for the rest of us honest and hardworking agents!
Here is his site
http://www.mikeluchen.com/
Beware of the PRIORITY MORTGAGE GROUP, INC. DBA PRIORITY FINANCIAL GROUP. They have a DRE licence 01789005. I paid them $4000 advance fee to handle my loan modification application with IndyMac. Guess what? My house was foreclosed anyway. I called IndyMac why was my house foreclosed despite my pending loan modification application. They said that the only communication they got from the Priority Mortgage Group was a request to list them as an authorized party on my loan and NOTHING ELSE!
Now I am having difficulty recovering my money because their Designated Officer, Mr. David Gomez, continues to ignore me.
I guess the DRE licence is not a foolproof indicator to tell the difference between acam artists and honest-to-goodness professionals.
I would be very happy to see their licence revoked.
This is all wonderfully good advice. You have put it so well here. Many consumers have been duped into paying upfront loan mod fees and have nothing to show for it.
Thanks for providing this needed info to all of those struggling to pay their mortgages and looking for some relief.
Callie just called me. She made a great point in which she pointed out the methods I used to get her attention. I should not have questioned her Christianity. I know understand the situation and what had transpired. I apologize to you Callie. i truly ask for your forgiveness in the way i went about trying to contact you.
Even after i did what I did- she offered advice and counseled me on my situation. Again- Callie....I apologize and thank you for your efforts.
Hi,
Forensic loan audits are yet another phony foreclosure-relief service hawked by loan-modification consultants trying to cash in on the desperation of homeowners facing foreclosure. The foreclosure-relief industry continues to be long on promises, but short on results. Folks keep your money.
I went through a company called AFS (A Fresh Start), in 2009, and the attorney they work with, Michael M. Yellin in LA.
I filled out all the papers, paid $2000 to the attorney and waited, and waited, and waited. They did send all the papers to my lender about the time the lender started forclosure procedings. I kept calling the attorney's rep that was the POC but she could never get the lender to assign a negotiator. When my lender finally assigned a negotiator my house was going up for auction and I had no choice but to take their offer or lose my house.
I had a ARM and the new modification gave me a lower interest rate by 1.5% and is still a ARM. I felt I got scammed by AFS and the lawyer. To top it off my lender tacked on $18,000 to my loan and part of that was their lawyers fees, so I got double whammied.
With all the hype that was in the news and all the programs out there I was under the assumption that these attorneys that are working for you would try to find the best deal and not rely on just my lender. So much for assumptions.
I have just had a bad experience with priority finanacial group in San Dimas, John De La Garza handled my modification request, the one thing that I request that he keep me informed on the update calls with the BofA on the status of my modification, he failed to do that, when you call him and leave messages to call you he fails to respond. I received notification that my home is up for sale Aug 17th 2010, I was never told by priority finanacial of this only thru my calling BofA was I made aware of what was going on, when I questioned John Dela Garza about this he said not to worry that all homes that are delinquent will automatically go into forclousure but as long as you are in active stage of modification they cannot sell your home, I asked if I should attempt to make my loan current, he said that these are scare tatics that the banks do in order to get money from you and not to worry because once the modification is complete you will be forgiven for the late fees and such and any money you owe will be be put on the back end of the loan so if you send money it will throw the numbers off and figures will have to be recalculated. I am really disappointed that I did not qualify for the modification but I am more disappointed that companies like priorty financial group are allowed to operate with agents like John De La Garza.
William contact me right away. 407-219-8739. I am the one that wrote this blog. I may have some suggestions for you. Thanks
My Dad bought his home in 1988. Since then he has divorced, remarried, refinanced, remodeled and now is divorced again. Now the value of his home is less than what he owes and since he divorced he can't afford the payments on his own. He went through the the home loan mod through his bank which is BofA who put him on a trial payment plan FOR ALMOST A YEAR. He made all the payments on time then they told him he was rejected for the mod and needed to pay what he owed which is $13,000 if he wants to keep the house. This is the first home he's ever owned and doesn't want to lose it. It seems even the banks are in on the scams theses days. They tell you to go on a "trial" payment plan then reject you when you do everything they've asked and paid on time. It doesn't make any sense. If he had that kind of money he wouldn't need the modification. Are they getting money from the government while they make people think they are getting a modification? The only option seems to be a short sale where the bank isn't going to get the money their owed anyways.
Please help with any advice. I am now in the process of potentially getting a modification through BofA. My wife and I have recently both been laid off of work and we are scared that getting into any home loan mod, even with our lender, is a scam.
Thank,
Like so many others my husband & I also tried to get a modification with BoA after a year of trial pymts we were told our modification was denied and that we are now past due over $13,000.00 and we were now in foreclosure again BOA put us in a Modification Review. It has now been another 6 months and they just declined us for MHA program but the we may qualify for another modification and he we wait again. I started to see if there is any company that can help us. We don't want to loose our home. I have been contacted by three companies ( all law firms), NMHC, Friedland law group, and Defense law Center, they all say they can help us. I am really scared to commit to one of these companies as we really don't have the money ( they all want $2000 - $4000) to help us. Has anyone dealt with any of them, or is there some company out their that can really help us? Please email me at Dutmax07@yahoo.com if there is anybody out there that can help
JE
Hi, I am dealing with a company called Estate Law Group and they aksed for money up front and two additonal payments down the road. I could not find anything negative about them and that is why I chose to use them, if anyone out there has had experience good or bad please let me know soonest because I am really searching before I give them another red penny and end up losing my home anyway.
Thanks
Matt, I was contacted by Estate Law Group and am looking into their background now. So far there hasnt been much info available, which makes me leary. However, the conversations I've had with my account rep have all stayed away from cost or fees and have been noticably absent of any overt requests for private information. I'm interested to know what you decided or found out and will continue to look for more details or background on the business.
I was contacted by Estate Law Group and spoke with them yesterday. The gentleman sounded very professional. I decided to check the internet for reviews on them. I also searched the attornies that are listed on their website www.estate-lawgroup.net. Some of the same attornies are listed on the website for State Law Group. I could not find any information on two of the attornies that were listed. I found several complaints about the State Law Group, so I am not going to use Estate Law Group. If Estate Law Group is using the same attornies, I can't have faith in that company either.
Thanks C. Thompson for the very precise breifing on loan modification. NOw a days these scams are creating many problems regarding short sales.
Home owners should really beware of these scams.
Thank you for sharing this information. It is most informative.
Buyers, sellers and real estate professionals could really benefit from it!
Have a productive week!
Jim Crawford
Atlanta, GA
Hey callie thanks for the Info, this is a very serious issue and people like you need to shine a light on these SICK companies.
I WILL SPREAD THE WORD!!!!