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Do the Banks follow Any Rules when doing Short Sales

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Real Estate Agent with Heather Roda Broker

                                                            I had blogged a few days ago about a short sale that was going to the bank. Well unfortunately it did. It was not for a lack of trying, the listing agent and the escrow agent both did their part. It seems like the more I educate myself the faster the banks change their rules and for no apparent reason.

 When there was no more room for negotiating (there was a first and a second) the other agent and myself took a cut in commission, there's more, we also agreed to contribute $1500 each to the second on top of the $1000.00.The second was finally happy with $4000.00. Once we were able to get approval with the second it went back to the first. The day before the short sale goes to foreclosure, there was still no answer. Finally on the day of the foreclosure they said, Sorry, "We only want the second to have $1000.00 so we didn't accept the offer".

 First off what do they care how much the agents give to the second, (although I think it stinks !) and second what is the benefit of starting this whole process over? It was an above asking price offer with a good buyer. It is very hard to work with the banks when they make our jobs that much harder and now I have to try and keep my buyers who's been waiting months for her first dream home.

 

 

 

 

Larry Riggs
Century 21 Redwood - Frederick, MD
GRI, SRS Your Frederick County Specialist

Lisa,

     It's sad to say there don't seem to be any rules for the banks or at least any that they'll acknowledge. In this area several brokers have started sending notices to the banks at listing stating that it is illegal for an entity (the bank) to negotiate the terms of a contract (the listing) which they are not a party to. Therefore commissions are not negotiable in short sale offers. This seems to be making some headway however it's clear some of the negotiators are making decisions on emotion and ego rather than what's best for all parties. Sorry to hear your story. I have started giving my buyer clients a clear picture of the short sale process. If they wish to proceed I will do so but most don't want to go through all that. These banks are shooting themselves in the foot. When the properties go to foreclosure everyone will get less. At least with a foreclosure we know what we're getting paid!

Aug 17, 2008 12:53 AM
Jon Wnoroski
America's 1st Choice RH Realty Co., Inc. - Green, OH
Summit County Realtor

Lisa,

Banks seem to operate on "their" terms and their terms only.  I have not had good experiences with banks and prefer not to work them any longer.  I refuse to reduce my commission when a bank requests that I do... thus, I do not get bank-owned properties as a listing.  I have seen banks exhibit what I feel is unethical behavior to increase revenue from the sale of a property.  The worst one I've seen relates to a transaction that did not close on the contract date (mostly because the bank and their title company dragged their feet in getting the deal done) and the bank assessed an exorbitant per Diem penalty on the buyers; even though the buyers were not responsible for the deal not closing on time. 

Other agents work well with bank-owned properties; for me it is not a fit.  I prefer to avoid them like the plague!

Aug 17, 2008 01:02 AM
Mesa, Arizona Real Estate Mesa Arizona Realtor
Homes Arizona Real Estate LLC - Mesa, AZ
AzLadyInRed

Lisa, exactly why I have a difficult time recommending pursuing a short sale to my buyers. We are not, nor is the buyer's lender, able to do anything if the bank says "no."  It's kinda like cutting of their noses to spite their face. Then it goes to foreclosure and they get less. ;-)

Pepper

Aug 17, 2008 04:19 AM
Jack Barry
Keller Williams - Philadelphia, PA

There are not alot of short sales in Phila, PA and of course I get one of these few.  I listed the property 1/19/8 for 219k, under contract 1/24/8.  The bank sent the appraiser in April.  The buyers left.  The appraisal finally came back in June at 245K.  Again I relist and get under contract in 3 days.  Bank says they really want 260K, cut commission to 5% (I always charge 7%) and cannot understand why the second set of buyers do not want to close.  The bank has offered to allow the sellers (who are in no position financially to do so) to engage their own appraiser (this will be the 3rd appraisal) but refuse to allow it to be binding.  Long story short, my sellers are going into chapter 7 and the bank will lose thousands more.  Countrywide keeps changing the representative assigned to this account...last count was 7 different representatives.

Aug 17, 2008 01:09 PM
Anonymous
Lisa Long, Keller Williams Realty North County

Jack, I'm a little off the Short sale subject but, I think it is great you charge 7%.  It makes business sense. You should check out the blog site I started. We could use someone like you and I would hope we had something to offer too. I hope your transaction goes through. Best of Luck!

Aug 17, 2008 01:51 PM
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Stacy Jones
West Little Rock Title Company - Little Rock, AR

Short sales can be a real pain, espeically when things like you mention above continue to happen. Maybe after the banks do hundreds of them their work ethic will improve, but for now, I think it'll be more of the same. If I were a buyer, unless I was getting the best deal around, I don't think I'd be the first in line either.

Aug 20, 2008 02:18 AM
Jim Fischetti
The Fischetti Group/Keller Williams - Wake Forest, NC

Lisa,

 

They follow the "Golden Rule", them withe the gold make the rules.

 

Jim

Aug 20, 2008 02:34 AM