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Saddleback Civil Forum featuring Barak Obama and John McCain

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I was fortunate enough to be in the live audience for this monumental event. Hearing the candidates talk about their own views without being interrupted was enlightening and a nice break from what usually happens at these kinds of events. Having each candidate answer questions for an hour was a stroke of genius; especially since they both answered the same questions.

The discussion that followed afterward at dinner and later while watching political commentary on the new networks was the best I've seen to date. Both the liberal and conservative media had very similar comments to make about what happened. The shame of it is that we'll be back to politics and media biased reporting soon. For the moment, however, I'm enjoying the break.

My opinion is in line with most of what I've heard. Obama was talking more in theory while McCain gave direct and decisive answers. Obama's answers came across as he was forming his opinions as he spoke. I don't fault him for this in an age where every word is pulled apart for months in the media. Anybody remember flip-flop at the John Kerry rallies.

The problem for Obama in this scenario is that his style worked against him. When McCain answered the same questions, the answer was quick and decisive, then was fleshed out by commentary or a story. Obama was just the opposite. He would start by commentary or a story and eventually get to an answer. I think that killed him and gave McCain what he needed to ratchet up his support among voters.

Another thing that I think hurt Obama among evangelicals was the tentative nature of his answers about his faith. He did a great job answering these questions, but threw in a few words that took the punch out of his message. For instance, when mentioning being forgiven for his sins, he tacked on the words "I hope" after his comment. Christians know they're forgiven. What I'm afraid will happen is that those who argue that Obama is Muslim will use that against him. Last week I listened to a former Muslim speak on this specific issue. Muslims, according to this speaker, don't believe they will know whether or not they get to heaven until after they die. When Obama tacked on the words "I hope" in reference to the forgiveness of his sins, I think that may have hurt him when considering his audience.

On another hand, McCain had his $5,000,000 moment that the media was having a good time with today. That figure was in reference to how much do you have to make in order to be considered rich. It was obviously his attempt to make a point. However, it will undoubtedly become fuel for more political ads. When Rick Warren was asked about that today, he had a great response. He said that everybody, including him, says stupid things they don't mean and wish they could take them back. I believe Rick had one of his own during that same interview. He was pressed on the issue of McCain being in a cone of silence during Obama's portion of the interview. It turns out that McCain didn't arrive to the venue until much of Obama's interview was over. Warren was being pressed about McCain not being in a "cone of silence" when he said he was. I fully believe Warren's answer that he didn't know McCain wasn't there yet, but his answer didn't come off as a sure statement of fact. It left room for doubt about the truth of Warren's comment.

The forum was what it set out to be; an opportunity to bring civility back to the political process. The format used is the only way that could have happened; the same questions posed to each candidate one-on-one and one at a time.

Now that the forum is over, I would love to see the video edited in a way that each of the responses by the candidates can be placed back-to-back. For instance, the video would show Warren asking Obama question #1 and then Obama's answer followed immediately by Warren asking McCain question #1 and then McCain's answer. That would be very fun to see. If anybody finds a video of that, please leave a comment and I will post the link on my blog.
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Kate Elim
Dockside Realty - Spotsylvania, VA
Realtor 540-226-1964, Selling Homes & Land a

Hi Dennis...How fortunate you were to be there to see this unfold in person.

I liked the fact that both candidates were asked the same questions.  Too often it doesn't work that way or one has more time to think of an answer while the first one is giving theirs.

I do think you have made a very good assessment regarding the ease with which McCain answered and the fact that Obama was a bit more hesitant.  Part of that could also be that McCain was in front of an audience more aligned to his views where Obama was in front of crowd not as likely to be backing him even if they all believed he is Christian.

Usually Obama is more poised when answering questions and McCain often has a greater tendency to misspeak or stumble with his answers.  Last night McCain was definitely quite comfortable.  Again, it may have to do with knowing the audience was probably behind him.

McCain really didn't give much of an answer regarding wealth.  It is probably harder for him to define who he considers rich considering the amount of money he and his wife have.

That is a shame that McCain wasn't in a cone of silence.  I wonder if that had anything to do with his quick responses.  I'm sure someone heard the questions Obama was asked and McCain may have been told them.  I did not know this until reading it now in your post.  That does throw a different light on it.

What are your thoughts on that?

Kate

 

Aug 17, 2008 03:21 PM
Jason Thomas
Vizion - Kansas City, MO

The best I have found is this YouTube channel, this guy posted the entire interview for both candidates.  It's split into corresponding parts and questions.   www.youtube.com/user/1001BG

It was pretty eye opening watching the difference in each candidates way they responded and answered questions.  McCain had a definite answer right away while Obama danced and took twice as long to answer (or not answer) the same question.

I'm not saying anything but it reminds me a quote:  "The only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead armadillos."  The moral of this quote is be decisive.  One candidate definitely showed that while the other looked more like an armadillo.

Aug 17, 2008 03:51 PM
Kate Elim
Dockside Realty - Spotsylvania, VA
Realtor 540-226-1964, Selling Homes & Land a

Hi,

The fact that John McCain very likely knew many of the questions because he was not sequestered for most of Obama's hour would certainly have made it very easy for him to have his answer ready.

There is also much to be said for the content of the answer not just how fast someone answers.  If you agree with the answer it doesn't matter how fast the answer is or how deliberative it is.

Perhaps this may have swayed some people that were not sure who they would support prior to the "conversations" but probably did not affect the people that had made up their minds before.

Kate

 

Aug 18, 2008 01:55 PM
Terry Miller
Miller Homes Group - Tyler, TX
Miller Homes Group and Tyler Apartment Locator

Great post. After readind some of your posts I hope you start again in 2009.

Terry Miller

Jan 05, 2009 03:31 AM