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Smoke and CO Detectors

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Home Inspector with H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)

I know, you have probably all heard it at least a dozen times.... but that's what makes it even more puzzling to me that I find SOO MANY smoke detectors not working, or operating improperly.

Those of us that have the battery type that are not tied into any electrical system are the most at risk, because it is VERY EASY to forget to change those 9 volt batteries (that have now become quite expensive). Of course the rule of thumb is to change the batteries whenever the time changes to or from daylight savings time (about every 6 months).

It's not that the battery type is unreliable, but it's more about US being unreliable in changing the batteries. (Hint: when you hear that little "chirp" every so often, and can't figure out where the noise is coming from... chances are real good that it is your battery operated smoke detector telling you that it wants a NEW BATTERY- NOW!)

Even the ones that are "hard-wired" to the electrical system still have a battery backup that needs to be changed every so often. AND these detectors should also be tested with the "test button" at regular intervals as well. ( I know, you don't like hearing that screaching in your ears... maybe wear some earplugs before you do the testing- I do!)

I usually test them near the end of the home inspection, put in my earplugs, and send everyone else outside. This way, no one gets the ringing in their ears.

This one will not work until the packing plastic is removed

This house actually had the packing plastic still installed over all the smoke detectors!

I'm afraid smoke would have a hard time getting through the plastic.

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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kevin, I gotta say----I don't test smoke/alarm detectors.  Of course I recommend that the buyer test them and change the batteries when they move in.  But how do you get to the one 30 feet off the floor at the vaulted ceiling.  Also, if they are tied into the alarm system and you end up with the fire-department at the house it can be exciting:)  I also recommend that the whole unit be changed out if it is over 8-10 years old.  Just to play devils advocate, what if you test one of these older units and it screams at you with the test button but doesn't function with actual smoke and you have indicated that the unit is functional? Do you smoke test each one?  I guess I just think "liability-wise" it is better to let the buyer sort out the operation, and maintain the operation of these alarm/detectors.

Aug 22, 2008 06:10 AM
Steve Hall
RE/MAX United - San Marcos, CA
Make the Call to Hankins and Hall

Very informative post and a nice addition (Charles) about the replacement every 8-10 years.  Based on your comment about the liability, I thought you might have been working in California. 

I think that batteries and earplugs would be a good promotional item.

Aug 22, 2008 06:25 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Charles,

I do use the "smoke in a can" and if they have an auto dialer attached, I call the alarm company beforehand to let them know there is a test going to happen (if possible). Sometimes they require a code be given, and if the homeowner is not availabe, then I won't test them, but just make a note in the report as you suggested. I have not encountered any that were 30 ft off the floor that could not be accessed by a balcony or loft.

The worst thing that ever happened is I could not get them to stop going off, in which case I had to turn off the power, and then remove the battery in the one that I last tested. These of course were "defective", and replacement was recommended.

The whole test takes about 5 minutes if everyone is out of the house. I know I'm not "required" to test them, but it's something I think is relatively important, since people rely on these things for their safety.

Aug 22, 2008 06:26 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

What did you say Kevin----I can't hear you over the smoke alarm! :)  (Your protocol sounds fine, but me thinks I will still stay away from testing them)

Aug 22, 2008 07:13 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Kevin,

I see that all the time. Plastic still on them. I always think it is amusing

Aug 22, 2008 05:26 PM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Some companies have come out with a new model, that is supposed to test "silently" uh.. with just one chirp, and a series of lights blinking.... can't wait for that!

 

Aug 22, 2008 09:32 PM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! Huh? And here I thought that it was the latest fashion designer dust cover for smoke detectors. Bummer! I guess that I gotta remove mine...

Aug 22, 2008 10:19 PM
Joshua Frederick
Home Inspector for ASPEC Residential Services, LLC - Defiance, OH
Home Inspector in Defiance & all of Northwest Ohio

Maybe this will help. 

Aug 23, 2008 12:50 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Very GOOD LINK Joshua!  Thanks!

Michael... nah, the 'Fashion' ones come in designer colors! :))

Aug 23, 2008 01:18 AM