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A "SCRATCH YOUR HEAD MOMENT"

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Home Inspector with H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)

Yesterday, I did an inspection on a "rehabbed" house for a very nice couple, who were sure they had found the house for them. The house had very nice "curb appeal", and if you didn't look too close, everything looked pretty good.

The seller "rehabber" had told them that he had a "great inspector" who was also very reasonable that they should use. Thankfully, they called and chose me instead.

I just had to share some of the findings on this one, because it shows to what great lengths some people will go to just to sell a house to some unsuspecting buyers. 

First, there was the electric entrance cable that was missing all of its' outer insulation, and was "painted".

 Bare, (painted) main electric entrance cable

Of course this should have been replaced long ago.

Next, there was the extremely settled and extremely corroded gas line and fittings. The gas was shut off, but there was still leaking coming from the underground sections fittings. Time for underground supply line replacement? Me thinks so.

Corroded meter & supply line leaking

Notice the 'freshly painted' foundation?

Next, there was the 60 amp corroded main electric panel.

Corroded main connection

This next one is the one that had me scratching my head for a few moments until I figured out what they were trying to do. This is a corner of the basement, where I found dampness and new carpeting that was wet to the touch. I pulled back the corner of the carpet for a better look, and here is what I found....

Foam sponge hidden under carpet to 'absorb moisture'??

Around the perimeter, they had chiseled out of the concrete floor, a little "channel" and installed some absorbent foam tubing, hoping to absorb some of the moisture that was entering the basement.

I guess it had reached it's capacity, because the surrounding carpet and foam padding were also wet.

This one was a first for me, after 23 years of inspecting, I have seen all kinds of efforts to disguise things, and all kinds of "waterproofing" methods, but never anything close to the stupidity level of this obviously laborious failed attempt.

I could go on and on about this particular house, and the shortcuts taken, but this should give you a good idea.

It just let's you know to what "lengths" some people will go to get by cheaply, or disguise something.

I'm still scratching my head deciding how to "write this up".

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Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

This house was a "For Sale By Owner". No real estate agent involved. All the more reason to be wary.

Aug 23, 2008 11:38 PM
Suzanne Champion
N.J. Realty - Westerville Ohio - Columbus, OH

When I was in grad school I took a room in a house for one term that not only did I find out was illegal to run as a rooming house, I started noticing that the owner had done all kinds of handmade shortcuts when she "renovated" - we're talking about removing walls and leaving the wires running across the space...tile work that didn't go all the way to the edges...and so on.  Yet she made comments about how other homeowners had done "shoddy work" in their homes.  Yikes!

Do these people understand that others will figure it out and then run the other way?  At least my stay was quite temporary.

Aug 23, 2008 11:59 PM
South Austin Real Estate Blog
Sky Realty South Austin - Austin, TX

This is downright Scary... some of these look like definite fire hazards .. like the leaking gas lines? and this seller will turn around and sell it to someone else.  Your buyers are fortunate to have found a thorough inspector as yourself... you not only saved them from many expensive fixes but you could have saved their lives.

Aug 24, 2008 12:20 AM
Rosalinda Morgan
Brookville, NY
"The Rose Lady"

Kevin,

Amazing!  How crazy can they be.  They thought they are so smart and recommending their own inspector certainly gave it away.  Glad your client found this out beforehand.  Good job!!

Aug 24, 2008 12:29 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Gail and Rosalinda, thanks for stopping by and commenting. I think it's scary, and very sad, that there are these kinds of scammers out there preying on first-time homebuyers.

Aug 24, 2008 12:33 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kevin, my grandfather you to talk about "good money chasing bad."  It bugs me when people take their hard earned money and time to fix something in a way that someone else is going to have to take some more of their hard earned time and money to do again.

Aug 24, 2008 12:40 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Charles, you and me both!

Aug 24, 2008 12:44 AM
Jim Albano
Prudential Damiano Realty - Little Falls, NJ
Team - Jean-Marie Vantuno / Realtors North Jersey Real Estate

Kevin, I don't see the reason for the "head scratching" on this one. It's pretty obvious from your detailed explaination and great photos that these sellers were trying to heal the many flesh wounds this house has with band-aids rather than with the stitches they really needed. Motivation for "cheaping out"? What else - $$$ and the bottom line. Good thing these buyers hired you!

Aug 24, 2008 01:12 AM
Tim and Pam Cash
Crye-Leike (Sango) - Clarksville, TN
Real Estate Professionals - Clarksville TN

Kevin, a great example as to why buyers need to hire a quailied inspector that is working for THEM.

Aug 24, 2008 01:25 AM
Margaret Mitchell
Coldwell Banker Yorke Realty - York, ME
Seacoast Maine & NH Real Estate

It amazes me that folks would take such safety risks with electrical wires and gas lines.  I've seen that channel in some older homes and wondered how that worked...

Aug 24, 2008 01:45 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Kevin,

Just send them a link to this blog. That shoud do it. It will probably have more of your true feelings in it than the sterile report.

Aug 24, 2008 03:33 AM
Roy A. Peterson
Domicile Analysis of Texas - El Paso, TX
P.R.E.I.

Hi Kevin,

             That is a classic example, WOW!!!!...You said the rehabber was braging that he had the property inspected by somebody else at a reasonable rate. Apparently he was not quite experienced as yourself.

Newbie Roy

Aug 24, 2008 05:35 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Not exactly Roy, he was trying to convince my client that he should have used his inspector instead of me. But it kinda back-fired on him, as it scared the client into seeking me out.

He even went as far as to admit that the other inspector was a "golfing buddy"... sheesh!

Aug 24, 2008 05:39 AM
Cheryl Willis
RE/MAX Solutions- OZARK MISSOURI - Mount Vernon, MO
MO Broker - Mt Vernon, Monett, Aurora, Barry & Law

I know you are professional enough to write this up as things needing attention.  none are deal breakers, just items that need disclosed and hopefully fixed before closing.  Not all FSBO's are trying to pull a fast one.  I have seen property listed with agents that really need a better disclosure.  One I put under contract 2 wks ago, turned out the roof is bad (sellers disclosed No Problems while they owned it) Turns out they bought it a year ago w/o inspection, knew the roof was bad and had some sort of adjustment to that effect (I am not sure if they got $$ off or an insurance check or what)  Now the new buyer has made an offer based on misinformation.  Its a government loan and the appraiser won't give the thumbs up with out life expectancy on the roof.  The buyers were going to for go an inspection to save a few dollars.  Good thing for them, the appraiser caught it and requested a roof report.  We will see how this plays out.  Our goal needs to be sharing what we know so an informed decision can be made.  I am glad for the buyer in your case that they didn't get pressured into not checking the home out.  I would call you in a minute!  be good  cw

Aug 24, 2008 07:04 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

Kevin - I have a question that is going to bother me until I ask.

On the service panel there are 2 new cables coming in to the main block.  They seem to be tapped on the main lugs,  what is with that?

If you want send me email, just curious.

Aug 24, 2008 07:27 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Jack,

I believe they are jumpering to another small sub panel beside the main. This box was a real mess. All the bottom circuit lugs were corroded as well

Aug 24, 2008 08:02 AM
Jack Gilleland
Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton - Clayton, OH

Thanks Kevin, couldn't get that out of my head. 

Aug 24, 2008 11:32 AM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

Cheryl,

          Defective items are one thing, and blatant attempts at deceit are another. When I find such things, it is always a bit of a challenge to write it up matter of factly, without pointing a finger, or making it sound like the cover up that it is. The people who did it KNOW what they did, and I KNOW what they did, but just the fact that someone has discovered it leaves you open for much more than just a friendly discussion. So, the tone has to be totally neutral, non-accusatory, and dead-on factual information. Anything less, and the worms are out of the can, and crawling toward you.

Aug 24, 2008 07:27 PM
Kevin Corsa
H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties) - Canton, OH
H.I.S. Home Inspections, Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector

I have seen the chiseled out channel around the perimeter of a basement before, but usually it is unfinished area, and the channel leads to a drain or sump crock. This one was freshly done, and purposely stuffed with foam and covered with carpet, and it did not lead to a drain or sump crock. So, as it is, it is just a channel to fill up with water, and eventually get the carpet and padding wet.

It was a lot of effort to go through (chiseling out the concrete floor around the perimeter) simply try to hide the water accumulation, when they could have done it right with just a very little more effort.

Aug 25, 2008 01:09 AM
Clint Miller
Real Estate Pipeline, Inc. - Missoula, MT

Kevin -- Thanks for the lessons and the eye candy.  :-)  I will keep my eyes open for this kinda thing.

Aug 25, 2008 01:16 AM