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Since you are so fired up about how the Republicans have done so well, here's an article from way back in 2004 from the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI) (compared to current deteriorating economic conditions) that might give you some perspective to why some of us are not voting for Republicans again.... After all, McCain did say on National TV that he didn't know too much about economics and we want him to be President of our country???

If you would like to read the article in its entirety then go to: 

 

      http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=107&subsecID=295&contentID=252964

PPI  October 18, 2004,  Bush vs. Clinton: An Economic Performance Index

By Robert D. Atkinson and Julie Hutto

According to public opinion polls, most Americans feel the U.S. economy has been moving in the wrong direction. Indeed, an analysis of several important economic indicators shows they're right. In apples-to-apples comparisons of annualized data, these indicators of the country's economic well-being show mostly negative change during President George W. Bush's administration, compared to mostly positive change during President Bill Clinton's administration. Presidents obviously do not control everything that happens on their watch. But it is fair -- and entirely appropriate -- to judge how they play the economic hands they are dealt. Bush's economic policies have diverged dramatically from Clinton's, and PPI believes the disparities in economic outcomes under each administration are attributable at least in part to those policy choices.

This chart compares economic performance under the two administrations on a number of especially important fronts:

 

 

Methodology

This index provides a broad view of the economy over the last 12 years by focusing on: (1) things that effect people's everyday lives, such as health insurance and homeownership; (2) measures of economic outcomes and performance, rather than inputs or intermediate variables like inflation rates; (3) percentage changes, rather than total changes in such things as the number of jobs or the dollar value of per capita gross domestic product (GDP); and (4) average annual changes -- to account for the fact that Clinton was in office for eight years, and Bush has been in office for three and a half.1

 

For the most part, the numbers in the chart correspond to the annual compounded rates of progress for each indicator.2 The indicators have also been inverted in some cases, so that positive scores represent moves in the right direction, and negative scores represent moves in the wrong direction. For example, poverty declined by an average of 2.29 percent in the Clinton years (a move in the right direction), and it grew by 4.33 percent annually in the Bush years (a move in the wrong direction). To make the decline a positive number and the growth a negative number, we have changed the indicator to poverty reduction. Thus, Clinton's score is plus 2.29 percent, and Bush's is minus 4.33 percent.3

What the Indicators Mean:

Our Fiscal Future

The national debt is the net amount of debt held by the federal government ($3.9 trillion in 2003).5 It increased under both administrations (in today's dollars). But under Clinton the debt rose more slowly and GDP rose faster than under Bush. The result is that the ratio of debt to GDP went down an average of 3.89 percent per year during the Clinton years, but has gone up an average of 0.94 percent per year during the Bush years.

The trade deficit increased during both administrations. It increased by 0.52 percent of GDP per year under Clinton and by 0.37 percent per year under Bush.7 This is one of two indicators where economic performance under Bush appears to be better than it was during the Clinton administration. But underneath that data is a less flattering story for the Bush years. The trade deficit grew at the rate it did under Clinton for two main reasons: because the first Bush Administration's recession had cut imports to an artificially low level, and because the economy was expanding rapidly. People were confident, so they were buying a lot of imported goods. Businesses were growing, too, so U.S. factories were importing materials to manufacture their products. Throughout this period, export growth was very strong. In the Bush years, the trade deficit has been a product of a different, and less healthy dynamic: U.S. exports have dipped dramatically relative to imports.

One of the most important measures of economic well-being is the number of people with jobs. The number of jobs in the economy increased 2.38 percent per year under Clinton, but it has decreased 0.17 percent per year under Bush.9 While it's clear that the economic downturn in 2001 was not Bush's fault, the sluggishness of the recovery is unprecedented in the period since the federal government began issuing detailed employment reports in the 1940s. There have been 1.7 million jobs created since September 2003, which may sound like a lot, but that number falls short of the 1.8 million jobs that must be created per year just to match population growth, and it falls far below the 3.7 million jobs that the administration predicted would be created when the president signed his 2003 tax cut into law.10 This slow job growth is largely attributable to both the failure of the administration's fiscal policies (which targeted tax cuts to stimulate savings rather than spending) and the failure of its trade policies (which have done a poor job of opening foreign markets to spur export growth, and have not created the conditions for an orderly decline in the value of the dollar, which would have helped ease the trade imbalance).

The change in the number of jobs does not provide a complete picture of employment in the U.S. economy. Not only did the Clinton years produce many more jobs than the Bush years have, but they also produced more full-time jobs compared to part-time jobs. This is an important indicator because in an economic slowdown many displaced and new workers resort to part-time work as a second-choice option. Granted, some people might prefer part-time work because they have children or attend school. But, overall, a decrease in the ratio of full-time to part-time jobs implies that a greater share of workers have less stable work with fewer benefits. The ratio of full-time to part-time work rose under Clinton by 0.11 percent per year, but it has decreased at an annual rate of 1.67 percent since the beginning of 2001. In fact, the ratio of full-time to part-time jobs has not only reversed direction, but as of September 2004 it has fallen below what it was before Clinton took office.

The economic well-being of American workers is determined not only by whether they have jobs -- ideally full-time jobs with benefits -- but also by how well their jobs pay. This indicator is a weighted index based on the change in the number of jobs in different income quintiles under Clinton and Bush.13 A positive value represents job growth biased toward higher paying jobs, which reflects an upwardly mobile economy. A negative value represents job growth biased toward lower-paying jobs, which reflects a more downwardly mobile economy. The score of 4.70 during the Clinton administration means that the economy produced significantly more jobs in high-wage quintiles than in the low-wage quintiles. In contrast, the score of -1.0 during the Bush administration substantiates reports that new jobs created under Bush have generally paid worse than the jobs that have been lost. For example, from 2000 to 2003, the economy added 540,820 jobs in the lowest-wage quintile. Meanwhile, 451,440 jobs were lost in the middle quintile and 357,900 jobs were lost in the two highest quintiles.14

Since most working Americans with health insurance get it through work, changes in the share of Americans who have health insurance is another indication of the quality of jobs in the economy. Under the Clinton administration, the share of Americans covered by health insurance went up 0.12 percent annually. Under Bush, there has been a 0.55 percent yearly decrease. Even more striking is that 5 million more Americans were without health insurance in 2003 than in 2000 and 3.8 million fewer Americans had employment-based health insurance.16

Productivity measures the amount of economic output that each hour of work produces. It is an important indicator of economic performance because high rates of productivity traditionally correlate with strong growth in living standards. The most accurate measure of productivity covers non-farm businesses. During the Clinton administration non-farm business productivity grew 1.83 percent per year. During the Bush administration, it grew by an average of 3.76 percent per year. This is one of the only bright spots in a period of otherwise lackluster economic performance, and it is a measure that suggests hope for the economy in the coming years. But it is important to note that the late 1990s saw both productivity growth and job growth, producing a double benefit for the economy. During the Bush years, productivity has grown while jobs have not. Whether the nation can maintain the robust levels of productivity growth we have enjoyed since 1996 depends in large part on whether we put in place the right policies, including investments in research and development, and the skills of the workforce; promotion of the digital economy, including high-speed broadband deployment; and fiscal discipline to keep interest rates low.18

Simply comparing the annual growth of GDP under each administration would be misleading, because the population continues to grow. Per capita GDP -- in other words, how much output there is each year relative to the total population -- is a more accurate measure. While per capita GDP rose 2.42 percent under Clinton, it has risen just 1.62 percent per year during the Bush presidency. In large part, this is because fewer people are working.

Median household income is the best measure of American families' well-being because it shows the true economic mid-point of the population. By definition, half of all households make more than the median, and half make less. (Average household income figures are bad measures of overall well-being, because a small percentage of very rich families can skew the picture, making everyone appear to be richer than they are.) Median household income has fallen an average of 1.15 percent per year under Bush. It rose an average of 1.65 percent per year under Clinton.

Poverty statistics are telling indicators of the country's economic health. The number of Americans below the poverty line fell 2.29 percent annually in the Clinton years, but has since gone up 4.33 percent annually in the Bush years.

No economic indicator can embody the American dream in quite the same way as homeownership. Indeed, one of the successes that President Bush frequently points to under his watch is the increase in homeownership. But while the home ownership rate has increased 0.37 percent per year during the Bush administration, that is a slowdown compared to the average increases of 1.94 percent during the Clinton administration.

It's one thing to vote on the "Party Line", but it's another to put our country into the ground, where we can't dig ourselves out of the mess we are currently in.

VOTE SMART!     ;>)

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Shane OnullGorman
Eau Claire Realty, Inc. - Eau Claire, WI
Eau Claire Wisconsin, Real Estate Agent & Realtor- Buy or Sell

Ann-Marie It can be said that any facts, numbers, or figures can also be manipulated and the source can be questioned. Some call this skewing but no matter what you call it and no matter how you do the numbers you would be hard pressed to say that economically our nation is and has been doing well lately. After Clinton was out we went into a huge deficit again. It isnt coincidence it is an economic policy that benefits a very small number of individuals who benefit greatly. Again I am not talking politics I am talking about economic fact. Its not an opinion it is how it is done and has been done for years in our country and it is devastating on a great number of people.

Sep 04, 2008 06:39 AM
Greg Knowles Santa Barbara Ca.
Fidelity National Title Group-Santa Barbara - Santa Barbara, CA

Ann-Marie, have these charts been updated?

Sep 04, 2008 06:50 AM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Interesting...  the boom of the late 90's (Clinton) just so happened under a Republican controlled Congress and Senate starting in '95. The first such control of Congress in 40 years which resulted in conservative spending.

So... The Republicans controlled the House and the Senate and a Democrat was the President. Was Clinton responsible for everything that happened in the late 90's? Did Al Gore really invent the internet and the boom in technology that created all of those jobs and economic prosperity during the Clinton administration?

Obviously, failed economic policies were enough for voters to vote Democrats back into control of the House and Senate in 2006. I remember something about making sure gas prices would be lowered and "change" from a well known Democrat out of some District of Socialism and that's really gotten us pretty far today.

Are we still below a 10% approval rating for Congress?

Reality is you can't give Clinton all of the credit for the prosperity of the '90's... and you can't put all of the blame on Bush for what is going on today.

On another note.. I don't particularly care if it's a Republican or a Democrat -- I want leaders who understand what $700 Billion leaving the country every year is doing to the economy.

The next boom to the economy is when the mainstream understands that and starts investing the money (and pushing it) with all of the cool technology you have highlighted in all of your Widgets to the right.

Unfortunately... our Congress can't seem to agree on renewing federal tax credits for this technology so it can continue moving forward because of the off-shore drilling debate.... despite public opinion polls that overwhelmingly support offshore drilling...

So... who is going to listen to what the people want?

I don't think the enthusiasm is for anybody that we've all known for the past year... I think it's for the newcomer who appears to listen. An 80% approval rating by people who actually know her work is pretty impressive if you ask me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think 80% is a lot better then 9%??

(BTW -- Obama will be doing an interview with Bill O'Reilly tonight on Fox News. That will be interesting and I really have to respect the fact that Obama is finally granting that interview after a year of an open invitation to appear.)

Sep 04, 2008 07:39 AM
delete account
Clayton, MO

Hi Ann-Marie. Deciding who you are going to vote for can be emotional, but people should be using their minds to elect a candidate. I think your information is great and there are already sources out there showing overall McCain is the one who will have higher taxes. Some people will vote based on what they want to believe not whats a reality and thats the sad truth of it. You just do what you can and hope for the best.

Sep 04, 2008 08:02 AM
Ann-Marie Clements
Candidate for an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership - Saint John, NB
Ed.D. candidate, Innovative Proactive Principa

Here's another article from the Los Angeles Times, dated August 1st, 2008, " Countdown to Crawford: The Last Days of the Bush Administration". 

Here's the link:  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/08/clinton-v-bush.html

This is a comparison of the Clinton vs. Bush job creation:


Jan 2000 Clinton creates 249,000 jobs vs. Jan 2008 Bush loses 76,000.
Feb 2000 Clinton creates 121,000 jobs vs. Feb 2008 Bush loses 83,000.
March 2000 Clinton creates 472,000 jobs vs. March 2008 Bush loses 88,000.
April 2000 Clinton creates 286,000 jobs vs. April 2008 Bush loses 67,000.
May 2000 Clinton creates 225,000 jobs vs. May 2008 Bush loses 47,000.
June 2000 Clinton loses 46,000 jobs vs. June 2008 Bush loses 51,000.
July 2000 Clinton creates 163,000 jobs vs. July 2008 Bush loses 51,000.

 

For the people that wanted something updated, I hope this is as updated as possible. 

Again, the FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES..... ;>)

Sep 04, 2008 12:53 PM
Kevin Robinson
Twin Falls, ID
Fractional Developer

Ann-Marie,

What country do you live in?

Sep 05, 2008 05:45 PM
Not a real person
San Diego, CA

I know only one thing: I would never want to be President of this country right now and try to clean up the mess we are in. I'd rather be a community organizer, even though Madame Palin in her speech seemed to indicate that she doesn't have much respect for us.

Sep 07, 2008 02:16 AM
Not a real person
San Diego, CA

I got a kick out of Stan's comment. My own personal opinion is that if a person works in or on real estate, s/he is "real estate specific."

Sep 07, 2008 02:19 AM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Do you know where to submit applications so Clinton can hire me? LOL!!

In case you did not know... the U.S. is based on Capitalism... not Socialism for the time being. We also have three branches of Government by the way that are based on a Checks and Balances system. So... while some Presidents would love to take credit for everything and some people would like to blame the President for everything.. reality is the Executive Position is a position that requires more of a position of keeping the lawmakers in check and not wasting money.

For example... Just because The President wants to allow offshore drilling, it does mean it's automatically going to happen because our Lawmakers (Congress) decided it was more important to go on that well deserved vacation then coming up with some real solutions towards energy independence.

The current approval ratings of the current Executive is dismal to say the least but not nearly as shocking as how low it is for the current lawmakers. (Interestingly, during the Clinton years, Congress enjoyed quite a high approval rating.)

My point is... you have to look at the whole system and give credit (or blame) to where it is due and not just one person. For people that can't understand that, I suggest a basic Political Science 101 class. (U.S. Government obviously.) Pulling out left wing liberal sources that don't tell the whole story and making opinions based on these same people's certainties is well... to put it bluntly... as ridiculous as saying Al Gore invented the Internet.

Sep 08, 2008 04:46 PM
Ann-Marie Clements
Candidate for an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership - Saint John, NB
Ed.D. candidate, Innovative Proactive Principa

Hi Paul,

Who gave the executive order to "wiretap" any American they choose?  Who didn't go through the correct channels?    ;>)

Sep 09, 2008 02:00 AM
Owen Zweiback
Realty World Florida - Bonita Springs, FL

Ann-Marie:  The only punishment the American people will see is if we elect Senator Obama/Biden.

That will be real punishment and a completely "cut off your nose to spite your face" solution.

Socialism never has and never will be a viable solution that works and Senator Obama is looking to change to the socialist/marxist agenda.

 

Sep 09, 2008 02:10 AM
Ann-Marie Clements
Candidate for an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership - Saint John, NB
Ed.D. candidate, Innovative Proactive Principa

Hi Owen,

Ask the hundreds of  thousands of people that have lost their jobs, their homes and their self-dignity that the current Republican president has really helped him.  Look at the situation with our economics, including housing crisis, the implosion of our Freddie Macs. 

In fact, isn't that Socialism, when the federal government bails out the Freddie MACS.???  Whose bailing out the families that have lost everything???

You can't have it both ways, and then indicate that we shouldn't have Socialism, when we are bailing out "HUGE LARGE CORPORATIONS" that knew well in advance that the Feds would bail them out....

                                   ;>)

Sep 09, 2008 02:35 AM
Kevin McGourty
Realty ONE Group - Phoenix, AZ

Wow. You took some time to write this post. I do think we give too much credit and too much blame to a person who is only in that chair for four to eight years. The mess has been going on a lot longer than that.

Sep 09, 2008 11:59 AM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Ann-Marie,

Your comment concerning Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was just classic. The bonus incentive packages and corruption in Fannie Mae started in 1999 -- under Clinton. I also suggest that you read this pretty simple explanation of why and who created Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the first place --> http://hnn.us/articles/1849.html

A great President and Democrat named Franklin D. Roosevelt was in office when Fannie Mae was created in 1938. In 1968, a Democrat named Lyndon B. Johnson privatized Fannie Mae to enjoy all of the benefits of a privately owned company with Government backing.

The Homeowners Relief Act of 2008 written and sponsored by Barney Frank (Democrat) http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/financialsvcs_dem/press0723082.shtml was the first step in your socialism comment of bailing out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Somewhere in that 600 page bill were the provisions that increased the Government's authority to increase TaxPayers Dollars to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Yep... you can give the Democratic Congress that took over in 2006 all of the credit for your socialism comment.

So yes.. your comment concerning Socialism is SPOT ON! Good Job on making this distinction!

Taking them over has always been the Hedge and a requirement since the creation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to begin with.

For an update -- you can visit the OFHEO Report that was released in 2006 -- the exact same year Democrats took over the House.... and did nothing about it. (Perhaps you would like to write your Congressman and ask them why nothing was done back in 2006??)

Make sure you read about how the books were cooked starting in 1999 (under Clinton) to get those multi-million dollar bonuses for executives.

I don't blame Clinton for it... to do so would be ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as the original graph in your post giving Clinton all of the credit for the boom of the 90's.

Sep 09, 2008 08:42 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Ann-Marie:  Your Economic Performance chart is just incredible.  What an amazing post you have put together.  There it is... plain and simple.  And what... John and Sarah want to give us four more years.  If only Bill Clinton were running again... he would win in a landslide.

Ann-Marie... thanks for all the work you put into this.  Now, if only the people who need to read this... do.  Take care...

Sep 09, 2008 09:41 PM
Leslie Prest
Leslie Prest, Prest Realty, Sales and Rentals in Payson, AZ - Payson, AZ
Owner, Assoc. Broker, Prest Realty, Payson,

I, too, hope that people who haven't made up their minds will take the time to read this,instead of just deciding by soundbites. I seriously don't want 4 more years of the same economic policies.

Sep 11, 2008 05:49 AM
Joe Burns
Vanguard Properties - Sausalito, CA

Wow, the American people must be really dumb.  After all those amazing facts, Obama trails in most polls, and is at best tied in others.  Wish we were as smart as all those countries that don't have cyclical economies, like...

Sep 11, 2008 08:54 AM
Anonymous
Jeff

Nice try, but this study was done by PPI - Progressive Policy Institute, which is the think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council - Clinton's People - http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=85&subsecID=109&contentID=895 , and we all know they wouldn't dare spin the data to try and make Bill look good, right?  And it only compares Bush's first 3 years (where we were suffering from Clinton's internet bubble stock market crash & recession, and 9/11), to Clinton's 8 years - but again, nice try!

Taking a look at the much more objective, "Misery Index", here, http://www.miseryindex.us/indexbypresident.asp, Clinton and Bush have nearly identical scores.

Sep 11, 2008 08:48 PM
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Ann-Marie Clements
Candidate for an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership - Saint John, NB
Ed.D. candidate, Innovative Proactive Principa

Hi Jeff,

In my previous comment, I justified it up-to-date, now check out this link, it's up to and including most of the 1st half of 2008.

Here's another article from the Los Angeles Times, dated August 1st, 2008, " Countdown to Crawford: The Last Days of the Bush Administration". 

Here's the link:  http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/08/clinton-v-bush.html

This is a comparison of the Clinton vs. Bush job creation:


Jan 2000 Clinton creates 249,000 jobs vs. Jan 2008 Bush loses 76,000.
Feb 2000 Clinton creates 121,000 jobs vs. Feb 2008 Bush loses 83,000.
March 2000 Clinton creates 472,000 jobs vs. March 2008 Bush loses 88,000.
April 2000 Clinton creates 286,000 jobs vs. April 2008 Bush loses 67,000.
May 2000 Clinton creates 225,000 jobs vs. May 2008 Bush loses 47,000.
June 2000 Clinton loses 46,000 jobs vs. June 2008 Bush loses 51,000.
July 2000 Clinton creates 163,000 jobs vs. July 2008 Bush loses 51,000.

 

For the people that wanted something updated, I hope this is as updated as possible. 

Again, the FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES..... 

Now, are you ready for 4 more years of CHAOS??

                     ;>)

Sep 12, 2008 01:02 AM
Anonymous
Jeff

Hi Ann-Marie,

Yes, I'm ready for at least 4 years of McCain & Palin, but there may not be the chaos you refer to, because now the Dems are realizing there is some serious doubt that they may hold their majorities in Congress - see here, GALLUP: Battle for Congress Suddenly Looks Competitive..., and here, DEMS ON CAPITOL HILL FEAR OBAMA FALLOUT... .

And it appears a majority of Americans are finally seeing it the same way - see these 3:

AP: MCCAIN/PALIN UP 4...
GALLUP DAILY: UP 3...
RASMUSSEN: UP 3...

Sep 12, 2008 06:47 AM
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