's Poor service. See CEO reply!!!

Real Estate Broker/Owner with Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc

Read the testimonials of SignsRUs customers and the CEO response. His response should make it more clear how they do business. Also check out all the fake anonymous posts in support of this company.

I'm looking for recommendations for places to order signs online. 24x24 purple signs made of metal or heavy plastic.

I tried since they claim to have great service, but I was promised twice on the phone that they would get back to me with a quote, but they never did. I am very disappointed with their service. I lost 2 weeks trying to work with them.

So back to the drawing board.

Any recommendations since SignsRus ( dropped the ball?

Also I would love to hear suggestions for unusual Realty sign designs. I heard recently about a new LED system where the sign glows at night. 





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FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:.
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Relax, no stress. Just wanted to help others by putting this information out there. Do with it as you will.    

Thanks for your post

Apr 27, 2007 07:46 AM #8
Thanks for posting about these guys. They are also email spammers and just sent me the following message: 
From: SignsRus []
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: Need business signs or banners soon

Does your small business need custom signs,
banners or vinyl graphics soon?

If so, here's your last opportunity to save big
during our Christmas in July Sale.

Click here to see the 12 different coupon offers
before they expire midnight, July 31st.

Best regards,

Tim Harrelson
Sign Optimization Specialists

To "cash in" your coupons just call us before you checkout in the shopping cart!

And don't forget to look for the entirely free coupon offer on the coupon page here
We would NEVER use a company that sends spam and recommend that no one else do either. The whole thing sounds like a SCAM to me...! 
Jul 27, 2007 12:53 PM #9
Must remain Anonymous

I live in here in Tim's hometown. He has a bad repuation overall as a businessman. I would not recommend dealing with him in any way.

Feb 27, 2008 12:10 AM #10
Loreena and Michael Yeo
3:16 team REALTY ~ Locally-owned Prosper TX Real Estate Co. - Prosper, TX
Real Estate Agents
I do feel that it's great that we can post about anything we like or dont on our blogs. Thanks Frank for this heads up. I think it's what we call our Freedom of Speech.

If we (as a business) provide extraordinary service, we dont ever have to worry about issues like this. Funny how he quickly found this blog.
Mar 03, 2008 01:16 PM #11
Charlie Arthur, CCIM
RE/MAX FIRST, INC. - Port Townsend, WA
Lowen signs is the best I have used.
Mar 05, 2008 03:06 AM #12

"In all things strive to lead a quiet life. being at peace with all men..."

How'a it working for ya, guys?

A private notice to the boss about his employee's incompetence might have gotten you A friend and a discount. No one benefits from a bad repost on another, Anonamous.

Just a Thoughtful and Successful businessperson.

May 29, 2008 03:42 PM #13
Barb Middleton
US Realty, Inc. - Richmond, VA

We use DeeSigns online.  Their prices are reasonable and service is good.

May 30, 2008 04:56 PM #14

Actually Deesigns was blog spamming me. They did it 3 times.


May 30, 2008 06:18 PM #15

I use SignsRus regularly for my signage needs.  They are fast, have great prices and they are courteous.  I have no complaints at all with any of his salespeople. 


I will continue to use SignsRus.

Jul 14, 2008 06:02 AM #16
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:.
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Anonymous, or should I say "Dear Signs R US" do you think people are really that stupid to fall for your self testimonial. Heck, you couldn't even use a fake name like John SMith?

Jul 14, 2008 08:50 AM #17

<h1> Rocks - Awesome Service</h1>


alert("woo hoo!!!");


Aug 07, 2008 04:57 AM #18

Jack Pratt Signs for the best quality panels, best graphic design and best service.

Lowen for the 66" tall colonial posts.

Has anybody tried the 60" PVC colonial style posts?  Do the stakes go into the ground OK?  It seems like it would be difficult in hard ground.


Aug 09, 2008 02:13 PM #20
Gail Garcia
Yocum Realty - Lima, OH

I've always  been impressed with DeeSign.

Aug 16, 2008 05:43 AM #21

You should try for custom signs. They have the coolest site and their customer service is outstanding in my experience.

Aug 28, 2008 05:35 AM #22
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:.
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Thanks bricks!


Sep 22, 2008 05:11 PM #23
Scott Hoen - Carson City, NV
VP, Marketing Systems & Sales Tech, 714-270-9607

I have used quite successfully for real estate signs.  I got connected to them through a single property website service called

Sep 24, 2008 04:02 AM #24
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:.
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Scott, you have no idea how timely that was. Kinda freaky. I was just searching around for purple riders. I just ordered a 5 pack., you should ask for your 30% referral!

Sep 24, 2008 04:29 AM #25
Kim Peasley-Parker
AgentOwned Realty, Heritage Group, Inc. - Sumter, SC

Not a good way to get additional business.  Thanks for the site though as I am looking for name riders.

Sep 24, 2008 06:46 AM #26
Tony Kueber

Thanks to Scott for his recommendation.  And thanks to Frank for his order.

We are full-time real estate agents and part-time sign makers trying to provide a much needed service - custom, "one-off" sign riders, delivered in a timely manner and at a fair price - to working REALTORS®.  We started making signs for our internal use after a local sign shop really hosed us on a sizable initial order.  After some investigation, we found we could produce the signs ourselves at a considerable savings.  Later we decided to sell online, passing that savings on to our fellow REALTORS®.

Our prices start at $9.99 for a single line of black text on a white 6"x24" Coroplast sign rider.  It would be difficult for you to spend more than twenty bucks on any single sign that to your local sign in Louisville Kentucky, most sign shops charge $25.00 or more for the same sign rider that we sell for $9.99.

Give us a look at:

or contact us by phone or fax for a custom quote
phone: 550-7793     fax: (502) 491-7763

Tony, Inc.

Sep 26, 2008 04:43 AM #27

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