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Living The American Dream-- Even if You're Broke

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Mortgage and Lending with Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc.

About four (maybe 5) years ago, I went on an appointment to try and qualify a certain family for a mortgage.  This was before I was "the boss." I was just a "Senior Loan Officer", beating the streets for any mortgage clients that I could find.  I used to always offer to drive to them if they were too busy to visit my office and this was one of those cases.

I pulled Mom and Dad's credit over the telephone and inquired as to their income. I did my loan officer type calculations and figured out that I could qualify them for an Arizona FHA mortgage, but very little else.  (This was before the Option ARM.)

crying kid wants mortgage loanWhen I walked into their apartment, I was a bit taken aback.  It was a young couple with four children and they were living in a two-bedroom, one-bathroom apartment.  One bedroom for the parents and two sets of bunks, four beds, in the second bedroom.

It was a little chaotic, but I am not all critizing the poor mother- the fact that she was even sane and her kids were well-mannered and healthy was a major accomplishment.  The stress level must have been huge. 

Oh yeah, there was a puppy too. No kidding.

They needed a new home mortgage badly.

Many of you who read my posts already know this, but just in case: 

You don't qualify for the total mortgage principal amount; you qualify for the monthly payment.

You qualify, of course, based on how much you earn, minus how much you spend, and exactly what is left over for a mortgage payment

In theory you could easily qualify for a $100,000 home, even if you only earned minimum wage. Absolutely. You could be a high school student who has worked in a fast food restaurant for the past two years and have absolutely no down payment whatsoever. As long as you do not have bad credit, and interest rates are especially low, we will guarantee that we can get you a $100,000 loan.

Except here's the tough part about getting a mortgage loan when you earn minimum wage:

When we say interest rates must be "especially low," we mean interest rates need to be at 1% or less. (At the time of this writing, interest rates are about 5%.)

But if interest rates ever hit 1% (and at the speed they are currently dropping, who is to say?)-- you will be able to buy a $100,000 house even if you earn minimum wage. As long as you aren't driving a Beemer and rolling in 22" chrome wheels...you can do it. 

But I digress. Back to the story:

This has never happened to me as a loan officer.

It turned out the family had no money for closing costs. This is not usually a problem (or so I thought), because I could offer them a higher rate, increasing my "yield spread premium," and thereby earning more money for my company on the "back end."

With the extra back-end (rate increase) revenue, I can apply those extra funds to pay for my client's title fees, appraisal, termite inspection, and whatever else. 

But that idea didn't pan out.

The income she quoted me when I took the mortgage application over the telephone wasn't entirely accurate.

She certainly didn't lie to me when I took the application. She made a simple mistake. But mistake or not, because it wasn't accurate, my over-the-phone pre-assurance that I could easily qualify her for an FHA mortgage was about to change.

The only way I could qualify this family for a mortgage was to offer them a rate that so low (below wholesale), that my company could not earn any money at all and I could not even be expected to be reimbursed for my personal expendatures. 

When a business does something for free, it's not ONLY that they aren't getting paid. They are also losing any money that was invested into that time and resource.

In other words, I could help them, but it would cost me money. It would cost me money for credit reports and tax return information and FedEx fees...ink and postage...and time that I would normally be spending helping clients who would be helping me put food on my table.

So I had a choice to make: I could give them a 6% rate, but my commission would only be about $2500 and that would just cover their title fees and taxes and appraisal.

Quick Sidebar: If you are a consumer considering a home mortgage, you should know that there are third parties that need to be paid in the process; parties that have absolutely nothing to do with your bank or mortgage company.

You need to have your home appraised; you need to pay a title company for title research and lien clearances; you have to pay for insurance.

So when I say I could only make" a $2500 commission, what I mean is that $2500 would be just enough money for me to pay the fees that the client would normally be paying on their own. Normally, a borrower hires their own appraiser-- and as a lender, I have nothing to do with it.

If I raised the rate to 6.125%, so that I could pay every cent of their personal fees that were unassociated with the mortgage, they couldn't qualify for the payment.

The tiny difference of 1/8th of one percentage point was all it took to raise the payment enough to make them "unqualified." We are talking about $15 per month extra.

But I couldn't allow these people to live in squalor, not all those kids and a puppy on top of it!

So I called the Realtor and told her that I qualified her borrowers for an Arizona FHA MortgageAbout 35 days later, they moved into their new Gilbert AZ home.

Why did I tell this story?  To let everyone know that I am a big softie?  Nope, not at all. 

In fact, I'm not "soft" at all; I just acted like a human being as far as I am concerned. Trust me, if she had a Prada bag and was driving a new car, I would have told them to hit the road!  I want a Prada bag!  No, they were genuinely just broke and it wasn't really their fault. They were just going through a tough spot at the moment, but those kids needed a place to lay their heads.

What goes around comes around.

About six months later, all settled into their new home, "Mary" gives me a call.  She says she wants to be a loan officer.  She has no skills or qualifications, but I thought she would make a great loan officer.  Heck, she convinced me to try and get them a home loan when they (by most bank's standards) did not qualify.

Today, she is-- without a doubt-- my best loan officer.  She is an Arizona-Home-Loan-Closing-machine.  I am so glad I didn't walk away from that deal, because I've received everything back in spades. She is a very successful loan officer, probably because of her own humble beginnings, and now her once-poor faily owns two beautiful homes!  I swear it.  She also bought a boat. 

More importantly, "Mary" has become one of my closest friends. When I went through chemotherapy in 2005, she spoon-fed me homemade soup and stroked my bald head until I fell asleep.

So, yeah.  I'm glad I did that loan for free.

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(If you liked this blog, please subscribe!  I would really appreciate it a great deal.  The button is on the top, right hand side of this page.  I really thought I would try and nail you while your heart is softened. Thank you!)

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Comments(28)

Betsy Talbot
Married with Luggage - Seattle, WA

Another subscriber chiming in.  I just did a search of the most subscribed blogs and yours comes up as #25 for the entire network.  Either trolling for subscribers is working or people are signing up because of your great content and style.  I'm pretty sure it is the content/style thing. 

Your humble reader,

#96

Apr 04, 2007 11:09 AM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates
Hey!  I think this is the only time I've ever trolled for subscribers!  I'm glad you all are subscribed though.  It really means a lot.
Apr 04, 2007 11:42 AM
Jennifer Fivelsdal
JFIVE Home Realty LLC | 845-758-6842|162 Deer Run Rd Red Hook NY 12571 - Rhinebeck, NY
Mid Hudson Valley real estate connection
Karen, that was such a moving story which I can relate to.  When you do acts of kindness you are always repaid.I too already subscribed to your blog.
Apr 04, 2007 12:11 PM
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Cedar Rapids, IA

Great post Karen!

This sounds exactly like something I would do.  I love to help people!  What a great thing you did, and sounds like it paid off many times over.

Congratulations!

Apr 04, 2007 12:25 PM
Thesa Chambers
West + Main - Bend, OR
Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon
Karen - I already subscribe and would be honored if you were subscribed to me too... hope all is well after your 2005 health issues - (18 years cancer free for me as of April 1) I love this story - it is so very true - you sometimes do not know what the good is in what you do it is always great when you are given the opportunity to see the good - I am sure this wonderful lady has touched others lives as well as yours.
Apr 04, 2007 12:44 PM
LLoyd Nichols
Premier Florida Realty of SWFL - Fort Myers, FL
Southwest Florida Homes By The Sea
Karen, that is a terrific story. ..and it has a happy ending. The lesson: being "nice" can pay off.It did for her and you.Still, I don't know to many people who would do what you did.
Apr 04, 2007 01:38 PM
Rita Taylor
None - Sanford, NC
Sanford NC Real Estate - Homes for Sale in Sanford North Carolina

It's so great when doing the right thing pays off!  Too often it seems like the ones bending and/or breaking the rules are reaping the rewards.  I guess it all evens out in the end though.  Great blog.

Rita 

Apr 04, 2007 02:20 PM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Karen.....  hhhhmmm....  first off, great story. My opinion to do a loan like this, which I have done several in the past, is for referrals. Hoping that it multiples. That's how I look at it.

2nd... what a great ending, not getting a referral, but a loan officer that you took a chance on and that it has been profitable for you. And a friend out of it also.

3rd... but I have to like this blog to subscribe to you?  Not trying to sound rude here... and I just read your compliments on my previous blog. But are we trying to climb the latter by asking people? I write blogs for many reasons. Do I like to see myself up on the dashboard... yes. But I let them make the decision.

PS..... I was already subscribed to your blogs prior to this. ;o)  I just haven't had time in 24 hours to even look at my list, hence the reason why I didn't come across this yet. Actually, this is my 3rd comment for the day. Are you subscribed to mine?  lol  

Seriously though.. just busting chops. This was a good story. thanks.... 

                                             jeff belonger

Apr 04, 2007 04:42 PM
Matt Pendleton
Realty ONE Group - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate
I did a free deal for a client because he was being screwed by the homebuilder.  I literally gave up my entire commission so he could close and not lose his earnest money.  He never gave me any referrals and then continually came back to me for free services (i.e. can you help me find a renter so I don't have to pay a property manager).  I finally just had to stop returning his calls.  I'm not sorry that I did what I did; however, I'm glad to be rid of that character!!
Apr 04, 2007 04:48 PM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates

Hey Jeff-- doesn't the old adage go:  Ask and you shall receive?  Thats all I'm doing when I ask people to survive.  Ya gotta ask Jeff!

But what do you think about the fact that good stories like this (if I may say so), without harping on the same topic, don't get featured?  Would you feature this blog?

Apr 04, 2007 05:03 PM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Karen... I agree though.....  ask away, it can't hurt. But just my opinion on here....  because consumers read these also. And as I stated, if they like what you have to say and or write, they will subscribe anyhow. Just as I wrote a blog on flagging good posts. How many people do this though?

In regards to the feature aspect? It's a good story.... I know I would have featured this over others. Now what's funny.... my last blog that you just made a comment on?  It just got featured. Not that I am happy, but the two that I listed within that post, I thought were better and should have been featured. So, it goes back to that post and my point. Do rants get a better look at than stories like these?  Or just good thought provoking posts that can be great reminders, but not rants????  And I hope I don't shoot myself in the foot though, with this comment... lol  Besides.. you didn't answer one of my questions...  ;o)

PS... and you do write some good stuff. I just don't get to it all of the time.

And just as an FYI....  you are 5th this week in most subscribed blogs for the week....   

                                                                                                          jeff belonger

Apr 04, 2007 05:10 PM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates

I'm reporting you to Jonathan for edging out blogs, which you admit, you "thought were better."  There has got to be more at play here, other than just writing good articles.  I've written 30 or so, and if only 1 or 2 was featured, I would have guessed this one.  Hmmmm...  This is more complex than the Google algorithm. 

Is there a way for me to check how may subscribers I have / had / will have?  Help me out if you can, dear Jeff.

Apr 04, 2007 05:23 PM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Karen..... whooooo Nelly...  I think there is suppose to be some sarcasm in your first sentence, but you still lost me.  In regards to the  how many subscribers that you have?  I have no idea. I am sure AR could tell you. Just pretend that you have 5 million subscribers. Is that better now?  lol  I need to go to bed....  nite..

                                                                                                              jeff belonger

Apr 04, 2007 05:27 PM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates

Me too.  I took 2 prescription sleeping pills and I think it's time.  Very woozy now.  It wasn't sarcasm, it was the irony that your post got featured when it talked about OTHER posts.  Those posts never got featured!

Oh man.  I just had an idea.  An awesome idea.

Check here tomorrow.  I could be overtired, but I might not be.

Apr 04, 2007 05:49 PM
Wayne McMullan
Royal LePage ProAlliance Realty - Belleville, ON
Quinte Real Estate
Hi Karen. Like you I truly believe that what goes around, comes around (or vice-versa). I feel that you should treat people as you would like to be treated in a similar situation. You did the right thing and now 4-5 years later you can look back with pride. Well done.
Apr 05, 2007 10:31 AM
Christopher Webster
EXP Realty, LLC - Columbia, SC
Columbia South Carolina Real Estate For Sale
As you know,what goes around come around. You're such a hero! My friend is dealing with cancer now and he's trying to help me with my business. I'm also helping him in the loan business. I think good things will come to all of us that treat others well.
Apr 05, 2007 02:51 PM
Bob Carney
Taylor-Made Deep Creek Vacations & Sales - Mc Henry, MD
Licensed MD/PA Real Estate Agent

I heard you were trolling for subscribers... Do I get any points for that???  j/k I have been a faithful subscriber since you put that SEO idiot in his place.  I was a believer after that.

oh yeah about the post...sometimes its more than a commission we work for...

Apr 05, 2007 02:56 PM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates
Thanks Bob.  You are so right, that guy was an idiot!  Oh, and also about working for more than just commission.  You are right about that too!  :-)
Apr 06, 2007 08:28 AM
Jennifer Allan-Hagedorn
Sell with Soul - Pensacola Beach, FL
Author of Sell with Soul

Karen, you have SOUL! Please come play on the Selling Soulfully forum - it was created for people like you who GET IT.

Great post.

Jennifer

Apr 06, 2007 10:24 AM
Lea Deo, REALTOR® - KW Realty Partners
Keller Williams Legacy Partners, Inc. - Shawnee, KS
Johnson County REALTOR®| Shawnee KS Homes for Sale
What a great story.  I subscribed to your blog within the first few days of joining Active Rain when I discovered all the knowledge you have and so willingly share. This story just confirms what a great person you are in addition to being smart.   Know that you have a fan and friend in Kansas. lea  
Apr 20, 2007 12:47 AM