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Thank You, Mr. Imus....and Good Night

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I was asked to take my original comments on the blog Part II, When is an apology enough? by Aziz Abdur-Ra'oof and post them on their own. For those who read it, I will expand this a little. The expanded portions are in italics.

"Don Imus calls Rutgers basketball team.....blankety blankety blank......."

Sometimes I don't know what to say when issues like this come up. Most times I just want it to pass and simply ignore the ignorant people and carry on with life. But, honestly, its hard to do that.

The media constantly pounds it in your face. You have everyone associated with this incident almost interrogated constantly about there "feelings" or interpretations by the media types. One idiot says a few dumb comments and now everyone wants to know what brand of cereal these young women ate for every morning since they found out what Mr. Imus said.

In all honesty, when I first heard the headline teaser about a radio host in hot water for racial remarks, I thought it would be another ambiguous comment that the press was running with in the wrong direction again. (Sometimes our media is like "pro" wrestling. It's not going to sell without the trumped up drama...even if predictable) I heard and watched the actual tape of it later that day/evening. My jaw dropped to the floor.

Was I disgusted? Offended? Not even remotely. I KNOW there are racists around. I am not surprised by this. I just couldn't believe he said that so easily in public. THAT was the really interesting part. As a matter fact I chuckled to myself. I knew this would be around for a bit. And predictably...it was.

So what is really worse? Mr. Imus' comments or the trained and fashioned responses? First off, you don't see Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton unless its a photo op or something that could be construed as "big" enough for them to make a political statement. I really think they mean well, but, since when are they "leaders of the community"? I didn't elect them to speak for me. And they are usually full of more hot air than actual useful solutions.

We are a nation of short memories and instant dramas. We always have to find a cause to take up so that we can appear to be on the side of right. As soon as the media stops giving an issue air time or priority, it fades from our memories until the next flare up. (For example, think about this: Where were the lessons learned from the Oklahoma City bombing applied when it came to 9/11? Or did we forget too soon?) What a dumb circular cycle. This is one of the reasons other countries and cultures find us to be so foolish sometimes.

We see this phenomena played out daily with our celebrities, politicians, and so-called reality show melodramas. There is always something dumb said or done and an apology is written (usually by an agent or lawyer....but, its heartfelt...wink, wink, nudge, nudge) and we all either villify the person or swallow it hook, line, and sinker. Either way it won't matter because in 3 months we won't remember the supposed lessons learned.

I say ENOUGH.

In answer to the original question posed by Aziz's blog, an apology of just words is never enough. The measure of a true apology will be found in the future actions of Mr. Imus. It is not upon me to judge him. I think he has a history of being an idiot. The only way that moniker will change is not from any apology, suspension, or meeting with the "victims". That's a personal issue he is going to have to change.

And honestly, I don't care what some idiot says. I don't think all this is really news. WAIT!! NEWS FLASH...There are racists, biggots, and sexist people in the world. Geez, let us stop the press for this new discovery! Get real. This is not original news.

As a matter of fact, let me shock you some more with "new" news....Mr. Imus has a constitutional right to be as ignorant, stupid, malicious, or racist as he may want to be. And, technically, there isn't a thing we could or should do about it. People say that he should not say this sort of thing. Crap. Say it. At least we all know now what's in your heart! I have more respect for the blatant bigot, because then I know where a person stands. Its the back door and sneaky people that I really worry about.

Now that he has been fired I hear some talk of his freedom of speech being violated. Mr. Imus was not jailed, ordered flogged, or in any other way deprived of his liberties because of his words. His employers, however, do have the right to decide, at their discretion, what their public image will be. For the most part I don't care if he stayed on the air, I wouldn't listen to him. And the true measure of what we will stand for as a society is what we will or won't support or patronize.

I don't think we are just a nation of wimps as was suggested before in the aforementioned blog. We are also a nation of sheep. The media tells us what should be offensive and to what degree of offended we should be. I even see the reporters almost spoon feed people on how they should feel or how they should react to something. Offense is as individual as each person's taste in vanilla or chocolate. We all have our own reactions to things that happen.

What is lost is the fact that we allow this type of language to permeate our popular culture. Our kids think its the cool and in thing to talk about certain types of people or women in a certain way. When its blatantly put in front of our face we want to cry foul, but, we don't take a stand in our daily lives or practices. We call it "edgy" or "urban". How many of us have jokingly told an off color joke to someone in confidence just because we thought it was funny? I think we all have. Not that we harbor any ill will towards any particular group, we feel its justified in the name of the instant moment of humor. All Mr. Imus did was hold a mirror up to ourselves as an American society and most of us did not like the view. I know I didn't.

What ever happened to that "Great American Melting Pot" they sang about on Saturday mornings when I grew up? Maybe it was only an ideal, but, it sure could give us something to aspire toward.

There is a huge double standard when it comes to relating to one another. Certain people are allowed to say certain things? What is that crap about? I can say it because I am allowed to slam my own race, but, you can't? Absolutely brilliant thinking.

Respect is the operative word. Respect is not refraining from making dumb comments. It is wrapping your mind around the concept that all people deserve the same amount of consideration you would like. It is actually taking a moment to just appreciate and perhaps embrace the differences in each other. Its about understanding that there ARE differences and, quite frankly....so what?!

AR is an ever expanding community of real estate and mortgage-related professionals. Even on here I have seen some "edgy" language and blatant character assasination attempts. But, why? To prove one person or their view is superior to another's? This seems to be the old bully mentality let me try to make myself bigger by tearing you down.

Disagreement itself is actually good. Differing opinions is great for debate and growth. Disrespect destroys families, communities, and eventually, societies.

I am a man of African descent, but, I fail to see where that entitles me to or eliminates me from anything. Its a rich heritage and I am proud of it as I would hope everyone is of their own respective heritages. But, I am an individual that is capable of forging my own paths.

Each of us has to examine ourselves. Where will we draw our own ethical and moral lines? Will we draw them only in public speech or will it actually trickle down to our private actions? 

We have to take responsibility for our thoughts and habits as well as our periodic actions our thoughts produce.

I am somewhat glad Mr. Imus opened his big mouth. It sure has driven home alot of lessons inadvertantly. But, the question is, have we actually paid attention to them all, or just the "sexy" and hot topic of the moment?

Thanks Don. But, will this lesson be truly taken to heart?

Al and Jesse, you can head home now. The camera lights are fading.

*Update*

Aziz has provided a link in the comments that I wanted to add to the original post. This article by Jason Whitlock, who sometimes appears on ESPN's "Sports Reporters". I think this article is telling.

It's title is simple...Imus isn't the real bad guy. Enjoy

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Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
Certified Feng Shui Expert, Speaker & Researcher
Somehow I don't see Al Sharpton as just going home---you're 100% right on his "photo-ops"  I just happen to believe Imus can THINK whatever he likes but it is not necessary to publicly vent on things that will be detrimental to others.  Thank you for the thought provoking post.
Apr 15, 2007 03:10 AM
Laura Reed
RE/MAX NorthStar - Clarksville, TN

We had this same discussion in my office a few days ago. My qeustion was what do you think aboiut the whole Imus incident? And it was put to me that he was being fired because the radio station lost sponsors and lots of money, not so much because of what he said. This time Imus went over the top because he singled out one particular group of women, the rutgers girls, not just women in general or a race of women. After pondering this I realized that it was true, rap music and all the other forms of speech that we are fussing about being racist etc. is ususally put in a more general sense not so spot on pointed. Please don't get me wrong, I am not in any way saying what Don Imus said was right, I can't stand the man and agree that he should be fired, but I think that the radio station should be honest and tell the real reason why they fired him.  I have teenagers too, and I disagree with alot of things in todays world. Here's an email my mother in law sent me sorry its so long...

Those Born 1930-1979!


TO ALL THE KIDS
WHO SURVIVED the
1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking

 As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-Aid made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING !

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day.
And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal  computers, no Internet or chat rooms.......WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! 

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned

HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them . CONGRATULATIONS!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated so much of our lives for our own good

And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave (and lucky) their parents were. Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it?

The quote of the month is by Jay Leno:

"With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?"



I don't know about you guys but when I read this it sure made me go back and remember being a kid and smile.

Apr 15, 2007 03:30 AM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent
The only thing I want to see happen is this: if the public is going to cry about how wrong this is when Imus says it, then I want to see the same public outcry about Rap lyrics. Some rap songs are so much worse then what Imus said and Sharpton and Jackson just don't seem to care about that, nor does the public. Stop firing him and start setting some standards in TV, Radio, and Song writing. Or just forget about it, let anyone say anything about anyone and just move on with our lives. I for one, would prefer rap to clean up its lyrics.
Apr 15, 2007 03:41 AM
Linda Davis
RE/MAX Home Team - Gales Ferry, CT

Members of the main stream media are paid big bucks for writing stuff not half as well written, interesting and on-target as your post.  Thank you.

Apr 15, 2007 04:15 AM
Johnnie Taylor
CFB - Lexington Park, MD

Diane & Jenniger - Now, we can't get into the validity of one form of music over another. That would just be an ongoing blog for ages. I actually do have some rap CD's, but, I am quite an eclectic person and I have music from alot of different genres. This isn't a real question of musical tastes.

I am sure you have used or heard the phrase, "They don't make it like they used to." Well, this well know expression applies here. No matter what your musical or entertainment preference is, for the most part, our "artists" are just not as talented as those in the past. Look at what passes for top selling music....Brittany Spears...minless rap songs about nothing more than women, sex, drugs, and money....

So, what do they do to make up for their lack of honed skill or committment? Vulgarity and controversy. Then, because they are popular enough to command it, these words, phrases, sayings, and actions get passed into popular culture as accepted. And by the way, no....the N word doesn't have different meanings depending on how you spell or say it. Another stupid idea and excuse for ignorance. Once again...sheep.

Its not about rap, or Imus, or Micheal Richards, or any other singular person, genre or form of entertainment. Its more about personal standards and what we, as a society will continue to pay to buy, watch, and otherwise support this type of thing.

I do believe in the right to have controversial music because sometimes there are controversial things that need to be brought to light. But, all too often these controvversies are more gratuitous than edifying. They are more for record sales or ratings, than to promote debate or discussion.

Laura  - I have seen that email before. Its one of my favorites. It should serve to give us thought on what we deem as important.

Is it important what Mr. Imus says or is it more important for our kids to learn how to take responsibility? Is it important for us to teach our kids the reality of life that not everything will be successful and how to survive and learn even in failure or lost? Is it more important to be absolutely real with our kids and let them know that there are people with other, sometimes altered thoughts and how to deal with them? Or do we just keep painting rosey pictures and color ourselves "shocked" when someone upsets our cloudy view?

How do we combat this sort of thing? Racism and stupidity are not things we are born with. You actually have to learn this brand of stupidity. So, it falls upon us now to aggressively (as opposed to passively hoping to) pass on to those that follow, the right things to do. Not just the right things to say or how to make it appear right.

Apr 15, 2007 04:26 AM
Jeff LeBlanc
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Tucson, AZ
The market has spoken with regards to Imus. We all have an obligation to know who the companies we buy products and services from support. If you don't like rap, don't buy from the companies that support them.
Apr 15, 2007 04:51 AM
Johnnie Taylor
CFB - Lexington Park, MD

Jeff - i agree, but that's a wide array of companies. It would be like saying don't patron companies that support rock and roll or country music. That would be way too many businesses. If there is a specific artist or entertainer you take objection with over their lyrics, ideas, or acions, you should boycott that person's sponsors.

That's all that happened to Imus. If CBS were really truly offended in heart, they would have said something and took action right away. When the money ran away, they used it as a good time to jump on the wagon. If his sponsors would have let this pass and the money still flowed, I doubt he would have been fired.

Apr 15, 2007 05:15 AM
Christy Powers
Keller Williams Coastal Area Partners - Pooler, GA
Pooler, Savannah Real Estate Agent

You have a very good point. People who are themselves are not the people that you usually have to worry about. It's the person that is pretending to be something they're not.......they may even be looking for the spot to put the knife.....

Apr 15, 2007 05:51 AM
Johnnie Taylor
CFB - Lexington Park, MD
Christy - Very good thought. The secret ones get the chance to aim that knife very carefully and end up causing muxh more damage and hurt.
Apr 15, 2007 06:12 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time
Very good post and discussion Johnie. I really don't have any thing to add to it but wanted to let you know I was following it. Well done. 
Apr 15, 2007 11:12 AM
Kevin Tomlinson
One Sotheby's International Realty- Miami Beach Real Estate - Miami Beach, FL
Miami Beach Real Estate

Phenomenally interesting.  What is angers me most is the hypocrisy of MSNBC & CBS. You know their radio station affiliates will still continue to make money from the hip-hop artists who are ALLOWED to utter the words WE (as caucasion people) cannot.

 

How can i tunes continue to make money off of selling those songs with those words in it that Mr. Imus lost his livelihood for saying?

Apr 15, 2007 03:00 PM
Johnnie Taylor
CFB - Lexington Park, MD

Kevin - Money....Its all money. Again. I don't mind rap. I don't mind controversial subjects. But, alot of the language could be phrased differently without losing any meaning or impact. Its gratuitous.

Apr 15, 2007 03:05 PM
Art Blanchet
On the Outside Lookin' In - Sebastian, FL
Stranger in a Warm Land

Johnny,

Thank you for your articulate and insightful blog.  (I hope "thank you" is sufficient.  It was superb.)

As for me, I find this Imus thing to be so morally ambiguous that I'm not sure what to think.  There is no doubt his flippant remark was stupid and insulting - and I DO think the racial underpinnings were something we really didn't need to hear over the airwaves - certainly not 100 times in three days, either.  It was a stupid remark - and he deserved censure. 

He also personally insulted young women athletes he knew nothing about - as a father of three young women, I was angry at his abject ignorance and thoughtlessness.

Perhaps even more deplorable than what Imus himself said is that it launched the programs of the reactionaries and opportunists.  A raging tirade was unleashed with many self-aggrandizing semi-political celebrities vying for the spotlight and trying to expand a stupid, callous remark by one has-been into a national agenda.  The spotlight grabbing and self-serving spillover has been sickening.

Who are the victims here?  Who was injured?  We can certainly broaden the scale to include an entire race, or even an entire gender - isn't that what's already going on?.  However, it appears to me that while we can go that route, the true victims were the Rutgers players and their families.  And how did they react?  They met with the offender - discussed the matter - and forgave him.  The victims forgave the offender.  Who has greater demands on justice than the victim?!  Certainly the politicians do not.

A year ago the Amish community was shattered when a man - known to them - kidnapped, bound, and slew their precious daughters.  What was their reaction?  They forgave the offender, forgave his family, attended his funeral, and reached out in healing to the family of the very man who had harmed them so deeply - a man who had taken innocent lives.  The Amish leaders did not launch a a diatribe against those they perceive to be different or even oppressive.  They did not blame society.  They didn't say it was television, or music or media either. They simply, quietly offered forgiveness and closed the books on the painful matter.  They will heal and grow.  They are now also admired and respected as a result of adhering to the ideals to which most of us can only wish to aspire.

Imus made a stupid remark, but it was his stupid remark.  It did not represent any other individual on the planet.  The Rutgers team behaved well.  Everyone else in media did not. 

"He who takes offense when none is intended is a fool.  He who takes offense when it is intended is usually also a fool." - Brigham Young.  The court of public opinion seems to be presided over by very, very foolish judges.

Apr 15, 2007 04:57 PM
Aziz Abdur-Raoof
RE/MAX Rewards - Columbia, MD
Howard Co. Real Estate Scoop
Johnnie
Good job and I am glad that you posted it!

 --Here is some more wood to the fire in case you hadn't read Jason Whitlock's commentary(http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html).
In some respect what Imus has done has lit a fire under our (I mean all of us despite your gender, race ...)butts!  


COMMENTARY

Imus isn’t the real bad guy

Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.



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Apr 17, 2007 02:04 AM
Laura Reed
RE/MAX NorthStar - Clarksville, TN

Art,

I think you just hit the nail on the head...

-Laurie

Apr 17, 2007 02:46 AM
Johnnie Taylor
CFB - Lexington Park, MD

Occassionally I will my blogs and comments to see how my thoughts flow over time.

It's kind of funny. And sad.

Its almost 3 months later. And who is talking about Imus? The Rutger's women's team? The whole episode? No one that I can think of.

Sadly, this is our trend. We are now caught up on Paris Hiltons post-jail interview(s).

Jul 05, 2007 01:33 PM
Doreen McPherson
Homesmart ~ Scottsdale ~ Tempe - Tempe, AZ
Phoenix Arizona Real Estate ~

So true. 

I will say, I don't watch TV, so I don't keep up with the garbage about who ever is doing what, where with who or when and how.  Foolish. 

Have a good weekend Johnnie T.  :) 

Jul 05, 2007 06:44 PM
Art Blanchet
On the Outside Lookin' In - Sebastian, FL
Stranger in a Warm Land

Johnnie Taylor

Yup, Johnnie, we go from th ridiculous to the more ridiculous. 

(Imus who?!?)

Jul 06, 2007 02:44 AM
Johnnie Taylor
CFB - Lexington Park, MD
And in this case, it is from ridiculous to absoluutely absurd and undeserving of a moment of attention! :)
Jul 06, 2007 12:10 PM
Sherry Nachman
Resource Real Estate Services, LLC - Owings Mills, MD
Love this entire conversation......Every word of it and I enjoyed reading everyones responses. The entire topic is completely ridiculous though and needs to be put to bed.......but it is what it is right?!
Aug 16, 2007 01:38 AM