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REO Agents: PLEASE give us buyers' agents some respect! (Rant)

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Real Estate Agent with Alain Pinel BRE 01367196

The number of foreclosures is increasing. And so are the REO agents. Concurrently, the lack of professionalism among some REO agents is galling.

Yesterday, Sunday, I called an REO agent to let him know I'm submitting an offer. Today, I sent the offer, again checking to make sure the property was still available (yes it was). I saw that my email was received. But lo and behold, later this afternoon, the MLS posting was changed  to "pending" as of yesterday!?

BUSY BUYER AGENT   I have written so many offers for many of my clients who are not giving up on buying properties to meet their needs, in spite of being outbid. But what I'm finding is that many (with a few exceptions) of the REO agents have forgotten how to be good listing agents.

What's with the attitude? And please, Include material info in the MLS

REO LISTINGS COMMON PROBLEMS    Time and time again, I'm running into the same problems that include:

  • No return call or email, in spite of repeated calls and follow ups
  • No picture of the property
  • No info on remarks, or material facts are missing (like the house is next to another house that slid down the hill?)
  • No key in the combination lockbox
  • Wrong combination code for the lockbox
  • No acknowledgement that they received our offer which I send via email and fax
  • No courtesy call to tell us another offer was accepted --- instead, we have to keep checking on the MLS to see if the status has changed
  • If we do get through, we receive erroneous information
    • One assistant said there were several offers on a property, and that it was on the verge of being accepted...but when I called back later, another person said only my offer was received.
    • Weeks after I submitted an offer, there was not a single response fo my follow ups. So we moved on to another property. Then I get an email telling me my offer was accepted.

HAVE YOUR PEOPLE CALL MY PEOPLE    Many of the REO agents have hired assistants to take care of details. Surely, they should be able to give us even a short call or email. We wouldn't be calling so often if we at least get ONE callback or email with an update!

When I represent my buyers, I spend an inordinate amount of time researching and showing properties, strategizing with my clients on writing then submitting an offer. The least REO agents and their assistants can do is acknowledge us.

Yes, I know...you've got a lot of work on your hands. Well, so do we. If you can't handle the load well enough to call us back with info we need, then why are you in the REO business?

 

Comments(46)

Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Update: I had a most pleasant surprise on an REO offer I submitted just yesterday. The REO agent actually emailed a counter offer --- AND followed up with a phone call to make sure I received it. WOW!

When an REO agent handles himself that well, he is sure to be remember and appreciated by the buyers' agents.

REO agents: please take note.

 

Nov 05, 2008 11:06 AM
Freddie Gonzales
WEM PACIFIC Investments, Inc. - Daly City, CA
CRS, GRI, RDCPro

Wow, that was good. I wish all REO listing agents are like that agent. Whoever that agent is, he or she should be emulated.

Nov 05, 2008 11:29 AM
Vicki Bishop GRI - Alabama Real Estate
Coldwell Banker United Realtors® - Bay Minette, AL

I must say that the couple of REO agents that I have been dealing with  have been very nice . They returned my calls and have kept me updated.

Nov 05, 2008 11:33 AM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Freddie --- I was surprised at getting instant response from the REO agent. I told him to check out this blog, so he can see he's an exception, based on the comments I received from people who were having a difficult time getting their calls/emails returned, too.

Vicki ---- good for you. I just hope that the REO agents will perfect their system/method soon, and make it easier to deal with them.

 

Nov 08, 2008 03:09 PM
John Novak
Keller Williams Realty The Marketplace - Las Vegas, NV
Henderson, Las Vegas and Summerlin Real Estate

There seem to be too many distressed properties on the market and not enough good REO agents to handle them. In my market, I've heard of agents not showing properties when they know the agent will be difficult to work with, or because there isn't enough info in the MLS to warrant visiting the property. REO agents may think they're dealing from a position of abundance, but this really ends up limiting the number of showings and offers (and may affect the selling price) of their listings. I hope more of them will take your advice, Pacita!

Nov 08, 2008 03:24 PM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

No doubt Pacita, you are sooooo not kidding! OMG, i just went through a mini-nightmare with one...I was the buyer's agent. UGH...I must ditto this one! Way to go girl.

Later in the rain~Deb

Nov 08, 2008 03:31 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

John  --- I think you're right... the bad agents' are getting well-known, so we anticipate a problem when we look at their listings. It influences whether or not we even want to show their listings or move one. "Want to" will always be tempered with "Have to" if the property meets my client's needs, however.

Deb ---quite a trip, wasn't it? Hope you encounter some good agents, too. They're not all bad.

Nov 08, 2008 03:48 PM
Dona Reynolds
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Stein Summers - Saint Joseph, MO
St. Joseph MO

Pacita

Sorry, you have had this kind of problem.  Fortunately, our REO Listing Agent have been very prompt in their responses.  Hang in there, they are not all bad apples, just the few that want to make it a little more difficult.

 

Nov 08, 2008 04:08 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Dona

I am dealing with two good REO agents now....thank goodness. It seems like for every 10 REO agents, there are 2 good ones. The old 80-20 rule applies.

Nov 08, 2008 04:23 PM
Terrylynn Fisher
Dudum Real Estate Group - BuyStageSell.com - Walnut Creek, CA
HAFA Certified, EcoBroker, CRS, CSP Realtor, Etc.

OHHHHH MY goodness, you were kind in your description of the process  compared to what many of us could say.  Thanks for exposing it in a diplomatic fashion.  Hope the market turns quickly...it's madness out there.

Nov 08, 2008 04:53 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Terrylynn

Wow..."kind?" This must be an even worse problem than I thought. I'm just happy to be dealing with a couple of exceptions. But my first foray into writing offers on REOs weren't very pleasant. Along the way, I anticipated challenges and prepared my clients.

Good luck to us all!

Nov 08, 2008 05:23 PM
Matt Ballock
Timberland Landscape Services - Livermore, CA

Patrica,

I have to agree with you! I am a vendor, and have many problems trying to get a hold of agents while working on their listing. Its really hard to do trash outs, and other services when the property is already listed and other agents are always stopping by. The listing agents don't listen sometimes, and are always in a rush to get it on the market before it completed! They should be able to answer phone calls or at least call back!

Visit www.goldenvalleymaintenance.com for REO services!

Nov 25, 2008 03:02 PM
Valerie DoBrava
NextHome First Choice Realty - Grand Prairie, TX
Your Key to Real Estate

You said what I wanted to say about how bad the attitudes are of the REO listing agents.  They think they are so much better than we are.  What is really frustrating is when they tell you they will not submit offers with FHA or VA financing due to property condition.  You go to preview the home and their are no problems to stop it from going FHA or VA.  Isn't it up to the seller, not the listing agent?  Aren't we suppose to submit all offers?  Communication is bad as well.  What is wrong with a quick email to say you received my offer?  I, like you compliment the REO agents or assistants who are responsive.  There is one in our area that took over 4 weeks to say that the seller accepted another offer.  We were like okay because we found another house.  Thank you anyway.

I am definitely with you in believing if it is too much work do something else.  Stop wasting our time and treating us terribly!  One day it will come back around to them!

Thank you for the great post!

Apr 17, 2009 04:26 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Matt--- what I don't understand is why asset managers give so many listings to agents who can't/don't/won't service the listings. I've shown properties where the agents are more than 30 miles away, in a different area code, from a different MLS board.Unresponsive agents multiply the frustration!

Valerie --- I just talked with an REO agent who is giving up the REO listings. He said he was averaging $2500 per listing and the headache and cash outlay were just not worth it. Maybe it's this type of frustration that the REO agents are what's coming through in the way they deal with us.

 

Apr 17, 2009 04:51 PM
John Conca
CENTURY 21 Select Real Estate - Placerville, CA
Century 21 Select Real Estate

I wanted to share this free list of REO asset managers and there website information that I got.  I signed up with just about every one of them.  Now in less than three months I have plenty of BPO's and two REO listings, one of which is already in contract.  Just do what ever you can to get started and be patient.  Good luck.

 



Company



Link

Accredited

http://www.accredhome.com/

Assetlink

http://www.assetlinklp.com/

Atlas 

http://www.atlasreo.com/index.html

Aurora

www.res.net

AVM

http://www.assetval.com/

Badisso

http://badisso.com/

Bankers Assest Management

http://www.bankersassetmanagement.com/

Bank of America

http://reointelligence.com/uploads/bank_of_america.pdf

Bayview

http://www.bayviewfinancial.com/

Brighton Real Estate

www.brightonreo.com

CalReo

www.calreo.com

(CMS) Carrington

www.carringtonms.com

Chrisley

http://www.chrisleyam.com/

Citi Financial

https://oms.citiresidentiallend.com/oms/jsp/login.jsp

Countrywide

http://my.countrywide.com/BizPartners.aspx

Electronic Mortgage Corp. (EMC)

https://www.emcmortgagecorp.com/EMCMORTGAGE/

Equity Pointe

http://www.equitypointe.com/

ETC REO

http://www.etcreo.com/

Executive

http://www.executiveam.com/general/registration.cfm?ContentItemID=Registration

Fannie Mae

https://www.efanniemae.com/is/npdcvendors/index.jsp

Fidelity (LPS)

http://www.fidelityasap.com/registration.aspx

First American

http://www.firstamreo.com/application.asp

First Preston

http://www.firstpreston.com/re_broker_registration.asp

AHMSI (First Option)

https://ahmsi3.com/servicing/home.asp

406 Partners

www.406partners.com

GMAC

REOTRANS.COM

Green River Capital

http://www.riocentral.com/prospectivebroker.aspx

Group Financial

http://www.grpcapital.com/contact/index.html

Goodman Dean

http://www.goodmandean.com/

HSBC

http://www.reotrans.com

Home Eq

http://www.homeq.com/reo/reoProperties.do

Integrated Asset Services IAS

http://www.iasreo.com/workwithus.aspx

Indymac

http://reo.indymacbank.com/reo.ext/presentation/BrokerApplication.aspx

Land America

http://www.lendersreo.com/application.aspx

Lighthouse Real Estate Solutions

https://extranet.lrescorp.com/vreg/index.cfm

Litton Loan Servicing

https://www.littonreo.com/litton/DesktopDefault.aspx

Loan Servicing Solutions (LSS)

14

Keystone

https://www.keystonebest.com/agent_login/agent_login.asp

MDWEBB

http://www.mdwebbinc.com/contactUs.aspx

Nationstar Mortgage

https://www.nationstarmtg.com/Realtors/RealtorApplication_Step1.aspx

Metro Pacific REO

http://www.depotpoint.com/news/?p=126

National City

http://www.nationalcitymortgage.com/

Nations Reo

http://www.nationsreo.com/brokers.cfm

National Default NDS

http://www.defaultservicingllc.com/become_broker3.htm

New Vista

http://www.newvistareo.com/app.php

NPR Capital

http://www.nprcapital.com/

NREOB

http://www.nreob.com/Public/Registration/Broker/RegistrationAgreement.aspx

Ocwen

http://www.ocwenbusiness.com/bs_loanservicing_res_bi.cfm

Old Republic

http://www.oldrepublicdefault.com/Default.aspx

Olympus

http://www.olympusasset.com/agent/agentdata.php

Owen REO

http://owenreollc.com/index.asp

Phoenix

http://www.assetonemg.com/Website/coprofile.htm

Premiere Asset Services (PAS)

http://www.pasreo.com

PMH Financial

http://www.pmhfinancial.com/Registration.htm

PNC

http://www.realtyservices.pnc.com/

Premiere REO 

http://www.premierebpo.com/premweb/Home/ContactUs.aspx

Real Estate Disposition Corp. (REDC)

http://www.redcgroup.com/index.html

Reo Experts

http://www.reoexperts.net

REO World

http://www.reoworld.com/

REO Financial Asset Services

http://www.reofas.com/

Single Source Property Solutions 

https://www.reotrans.com/index.cfm?

SNSC

http://www.snsc.com/ReoPropertiesBroker.aspx

Sun Trust

http://suntrust.res.net/

Tactical REO

https://www.disposolutions.com/clientlogins/dst/default.aspx

US Bank

http://www.usbank.com/

USRES

http://www.usres.com/vendors/real-estate-brokers/

Wachovia

http://reo.wachovia.com/wbreosubscription.aspx

Washington Mutual

http://www.wamuproperties.com/

Wilshire

https://www.wcc.ml.com/Homes.aspx

 

 

Apr 21, 2009 07:57 AM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

John

Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated.

Looks like there's another wave of foreclosures coming. Hope the lenders are gearing up by adding to their roster of REO agents. GOOD agents!

Apr 22, 2009 07:00 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Ginevra

Glad to know you're one of the good guys. May your number increase!

As you know, it may be an uphill battle. The few good ones aren't enough to change the general perception. It got so bad that there's a youtube video that went viral.

If you haven't seen it yet, you should. It's a laugh and a half. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM7oWKgCVo4

The key words? Busy! Busy! Busy!

Dec 25, 2009 12:22 PM
Tammy Fullriede
Bale Realty - Wilmington, IL

In response to # 25.  Mike I just submitted an offer that did not fit the banks protocol.

My buyers were approved for a USDA Rural Housing Loan.  The seller would only accept, conventional, cash or FHA 203 K loans.  My buyers lender not only sent the Pre-Approval letter stating the buyer was obtaining a USDA loan but they also wrote an additional letter stating the the USDA allows the buyer to add the cost of repairs into the mortgage, the same as the FHA 203 K.

The lender accepted my buyers full price offer. But when the addendum's came they stated that the buyer was obtaining a FHA 203K loan.  Not only that but the addendum stated that my buyer must pay all of the sellers closings costs.   The listing sheet that the sellers closing costs were negotiable but when we x'd  and initialed out that portion of the addendum the listing agent considered our offer null and void.  

 Although the listing sheet did not say certified funds only, I should have know better, I sent the earnest monet check to the holding real estate office only to be told that it was not acceptable. 

My buyer had to resubmit his original offer, stating somewhere that he will not pay the sellers closing costs, and he now has to stop payment on a check that is good as gold.

Technically I did not follow "protocall' but everything was up front and out in the open when this offer was accepted.

Needless to say, it is very frustrating and my first time qualified home buyer is sitting on pins and needles waiting for a response.

And Pacita thank you for posting this. I came on Active rain to rant about this situation and was happy to see that you had already done so. :)  

 

Jan 07, 2010 08:03 AM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Hi, Tammy

Re...."but when we x'd  and initialed out that portion of the addendum the listing agent considered our offer null and void."

Unfortunately, that is true. Any changes you make on the original document WILL void that offer. The changes you want, as you already figured out, should be submitted via a counter offer or addendum. This isn't just one bank's or one seller's protocol.

If this is your first REO experience, BRACE FOR IMPACT! More such experiences will come your way.

Good luck!

Jan 07, 2010 09:01 AM
Tammy Fullriede
Bale Realty - Wilmington, IL

Thanks for the tip Pacita.  This is my 7th REO transaction and I have never had this type of harsh seller expecting buyers to pay the sellers closing costs and accepting an offer one way, and then changing the addendum to say another.

I do have to say though that the REO agent I am currently dealing with is very responsive and I do appreciate that.  However, we have one agent in our area who is everything you described and much much more.  Whenever I write an offer for him, I make sure my clients know that this will not be an easy ride!

 

Jan 07, 2010 11:12 AM