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NAR - Election Results w/ Joe Scarborough & Mike Barnicle

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In an effort to bring you more from the governance side of the NAR Conference & Expo, I attended a very entertaining session featuring the host of Morning Joe on MSNBC Joe Scarborough and columnist & commentator Mike Barnicle titled 'Election Results and the 111th Congress: Legislative & Political Forum.' You can view my other NAR Updates here:
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As stated before, this will not be an exhaustive reporting of the forum but a highlight of their views, some entertaining quotes and my commentary.

The first topic of discussion was Sarah Palin. The consensus from those that have met her, interviewed her and spent any amount of time with her is that she is HOT. Whether you like her or not, she is HOT. Politically correct or not, she is HOT. And according to Scarborough, you can call her whatever you want but in 6 months you'll be calling her Senator as she is a virtual lead-pipe cinch to replace the disgraced Ted Stevens. From that position, she will have 4 - 8 years to build her resume and bona-fides and may well be positioned to become the nations first female President.

They further discounted any negative impact Palin had on the McCain candidacy saying unequivocally that John McCain ran the most ineffective, directionless, message-less campaign in recent memory. Obama, on the other hand, ran a disciplined, well organized and well-funded campaign. He is a skilled orator, an unashamed intellectual and a media darling. That he could harness the media with such great success first against Hillary and then against McCain is a tribute to his skillful manipulation.

His most questionable decision to date was his selection of Joe Biden as a running mate. First because it's a dead end since it grooms no successor to the Presidency in 8 years, and secondly because Biden himself brings plenty negatives to the ticket. Both men have known Biden for 30+ years and profess to love him dearly, but they liken Biden to 'an out of control beer truck.' You just know there's going to be an accident watching this truck careening down the street, beer bottles flying off in all directions like bottle rockets, exploding on the pavement, scattering debris and passers-by in it's wake - but you just can't turn away - it's just too much fun to watch. There are already pools being formed in DC on how soon calls will start coming in for Bidens resignation with some wags betting as early as Washingtons birthday.

They also cautioned that this election was not a mandate election but a wave. Given the various scandals involving Republicans during the past few years, the perception that they abandoned their conservative principles and the growing unpopularity of George Bush, this year represented a wave of resentment, a wave of change that was going to sweep Republicans from power almost regardless of who the Democratic candidate was. The true race was not between Obama & McCain but between Obama & Hillary. McCain had an early opportunity to make it a horse race but squandered virtually every opportunity.

However, it should be noted this country is still a slightly right-of-center democracy. That translates to Obama not having nearly the freedom to do all he promised. The times will force him to be much more pragmatic in his approach and the result may be nearly indistinguishable from what a McCain Presidency would have looked like. They predict that Obama's biggest battles will not be with Republicans but with Nancy Pelosi, to establish primacy in the Democratic party and to keep the agenda from veering too sharply to the left. According to Scarborough, the best thing that could have happened to revitalize the Republican Party just happened.

Both men decried the bias evidenced by the media. They noted the differences between those that portray themselves as commentators and columnists with an obvious agenda, and the 'hard news' press whose job it is to report the news without bias and without comment. Noting that they doubted that McCain picked up a single vote from any reporter at the three major networks, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times or Chicago Tribune, they don't have a problem with that but said it is not the job of those same people to be on-air cheerleaders, as they obviously were in some cases. There should remain a separation between those 3rd and 4th estates and that line was significantly blurred this election cycle and that integrity and trust were the victims.

Bottom line -
  • Palin is much brighter than people give her credit for, she will remain on the scene and may play a significant role in the future (and she is HOT). Contrary to her Couric image, she is a voracious reader, a hand-on leader and a capable economist. She has some fences to mend in Alaska but will remain effective if she chooses to remain there but few are betting that will be her choice.
  • Biden is a helluva nice guy but not as bright as people give him credit for. Despite spending 36+ years in Washington, he is one of about 5 people in the legislature who is not at least a millionaire. That's both a positive and a negative.  After his initial remarks about Obama being the first well-dressed, clean, well-spoken black guy to run for major office, it is a miracle he was even in the running for VP, let alone the final pick.
  • McCain is also a helluva nice guy who, had he run the same campaign this year as he did in 2000 may well have won. According to Scarborough, he was set to name Joe Lieberman as his VP choice but the conservative wing of the party threatened open revolt. In a fit of pique, he passed on their suggestions of Tim Pawlenty and Tom Ridge, and discounted Mitt Romney because 'he hates his guts'. Palin was essentially pulled out of a hat as she had many of the grass-roots virtues of the conservative base with no Washington baggage. His Senate office is often in messy disarray and that was much in evidence in how he waged this campaign.
  • Obama is a bit of an unknown with a very short time on the national stage. We will know more about him based on his selections for key positions and for his enumeration of priorities during his first 100 days. The prospect of a young family with a puppy in the White House is very attractive but if he wants his place in history to be marked as being a great President instead of just the first African-American President, he has his work cut out for him.

In closing, only in America could we go through nearly 2 years of a bruising, battering, name calling, self-aggrandizing campaign, see our economy drop to the brink of disaster, watch our housing market disolve, our stock market collapse, our fuel prices skyrocket, our politicians and bankers pocket billions of our dollars and still wake up November 5th with optimism and hope for the future. This is truly a great country.

On that we'll all agree. 
Gene Wunderlich - Selling Southwest California Homes including Temecula, Murrieta & The Southern California Wine Country
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' NAR - Election Results from Scarborough & Barnicle'
THE OPINIONS IN THIS COMMENTARY ARE STRICTLY GENE WUNDERLICH's PERSONAL OPINION. WHILE ANY REASONABLE &/or RATIONAL PERSON SHOULD AGREE, THESE VIEWS MAY NOT REFLECT THOSE OF ACTIVERAIN, COLDWELL BANKER RESIDENTIAL BROKERAGE OR ANY  LOCAL, STATE OR NATIONAL ASSOCIATIONS.

Comments(7)

Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

I didn't know anyone ever gave Biden credit for being intelligent...I know HE wants to be seen that way, but really, I always saw him more as "assassination insurance." LOL  Thanks for the thorough update.  And yeah, I have to say, Sarah is hot.  She has that naughty librarian thing going. 

Nov 09, 2008 11:34 PM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Gene ~ That is so funnny. Is that the understatement of the year. Barak Obama is a bit of an unknown?

Nov 09, 2008 11:37 PM
Trey Thurmond
BCR Realtors - College Station, TX
College Station , Texas Homes

This is really a very insightful post. Thanks for writing it . It says most of what I truly feel right now.

Nov 10, 2008 02:36 AM
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Ed Lefevre (angry curious sort)

Sorry Gene,  I don't consider Scarborough or Barnicle as anything more than TV entertainers....

Here are the "FU" headlines today on Scarborough....the man who pushed for heavy FCC fines against others who cursed the exact same way on TV:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=Joe%20Scarborough&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

...and Barnicle is not to be taken seriously:

YouTube - Barnicle asserted McCain "absolutely comes off as" an "Irish

Barnicle asserted McCain "absolutely comes off as" an "Irish Catholic working- class hero" Summary: After claiming that non-Catholics ...
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=L22U-o9K7p8&feature=related

 

Cable News' Locker-Room Mentality Really Stinks

Or Mike Barnicle. During a Jan. 24 broadcast of "Morning Joe," Barnicle said Hillary "looked like everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court." ...

So why is it worth passing on what either of these two entertainers think about the political landscape? It's not like either of them has a proven track record of credible political analysis or commentary.....is it?

Nov 10, 2008 04:43 AM
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Gene Wunderlich
1st Action Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
Realtor & Legislative Liaison

Susan - You pegged it -  that naughty librarian thing. It'll be interesting to see what she develops into during the next few years. She may very well go back to being the governor of Alaska but smart money is betting on bigger things.

Ed - Frankly no one cares what you consider. NAR considered them to be entertaining and have a degree of knowledge and they informed and entertained several hundred of us.

Nov 10, 2008 06:33 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Gene - the naughty governor, instead of the naught governess. I think it really depends upon who wins the struggle for dominance in the republican party. If the good ol' boys win it will be politics as usual and another crushing defeat in 2010. If the new wave comes out on top, and that includes Palin, Huckabee, Romney, Jindal, Pence, Pawlenty, and others Palin will have a prominent role to play.

I will admit, as poorly as McCain's campaign was run, I had some misgivings about the man.

I would remind you that Clinton and his team, as well as the media, somehow made his plurality, in '92 and again in '96 (now there was another ineffective campaign by Dole) into a madate. Thankfully, Hillary had her health care crusade which gave Gingrich the fodder for the '94 reversal in the House of Representatives.

I don't know if the republicans have another Gingrich around.

Nov 10, 2008 06:59 AM
Gene Wunderlich
1st Action Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
Realtor & Legislative Liaison

Mike - I don't know either. But the battle is on for the heart of the party. I agree if the moderates regain control we will see a more relevant and exciting party. All those people you named need to step up NOW to revitalize the grassroots. If the good ole boys prevail it may signal the end of the party except to the fringes. That may open the door for a party in the middle ground - the Progressive Conservatives or tha Frog Party or the Flat Ground Party or whatever. I try to vote the Realtor Party every chance I get.

Nov 10, 2008 07:45 AM