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That Could Be the Fox in the Hen House

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Real Estate Agent with Re/Max Assoc. Brokers Inc.

Who should I see for the financing of my new residence? See your agent first. I'd like to tell you a story that has been repeated too many times. A young couple goes to buy a new home. They sit down with a friend of a friend who just happens to be a loan officer. They think, "Well, Jenny said he or she was a great person and real funny."

So they sit down at the person's office and start the process. "I'll get you the best rate and don't worry about anything. This won't cost that much, and oh, by the way, here is your pre-approval letter."

I had a couple come into my office one time that wanted to buy a home. I asked "have you been in with a lender yet. Knowing how much you are qualified is paramount to a successful transaction. It doesn't do any good to look at homes you can't buy. So this couple said that they had been in with a loan officer. I asked could I ask who the lender was. They said it was XYZ lending. I said in a matter of fact way "well you have two questions to ask yourself "are you getting a new lender or a new agent". You see it doesn't do a lick of good to right a contract that won't close. The most horrifying event in an agents life is when the buys, sellers and agents are at the closing table and there is no money. The whole world just seems to stop. The worst thing is if the seller has now moved out of their home and the buyer has $2,500 in earnest money at risk. Who is going to pay for the damage? The buyer with their earnest money and what about the lender? In Hawaii we used to say "here today and gone to Maui" no where to be seen.  

Let's start with the contract: When you sign a contract to purchase a piece of real estate, you put down what is called ‘earnest money', which shows your good faith in the contract. This amount can vary from $500 to $10,000; the larger the sum, the more good faith. Remember, the seller is putting up their home as earnest. The larger the sum, the better the contract looks -- showing your viability as a buyer.

You have within the contract a prescribed amount of time to acquire a loan commitment. If your lender keeps telling you not to worry, "no problem, we are almost there", and your loan commitment date is coming up and gone, your earnest money is at risk.

Remember that pre-approval letter? It only says with the little information the lender has you look good for a certain amount. That piece of paper is only as good as the lender and the information you gave them. If your lender is a charlatan, your pre-approval letter isn't worth the paper it's written on. If you didn't give them accurate data, then it's "garbage in, garbage out'.

A HUD statement gives you a fair estimate of your loan cost and fees in the purchase from your lender. Many times you will be told all the costs are all closing costs. They are not closing cost; closing costs are actually escrow fees, title policy & search, & prorated taxes. 

Many of the fees you will pay will be just loan fees for the privileged of borrowing the lender's funds and insurance to make sure they get their money back. Lenders love to call them closing costs because it sounds like they are all the same no matter which lender you see. If you are dealing with a second-party lender that doesn't have their own funds, they will package your loan for a bank or another lending institution, and you guessed it, they also have fees. These are individuals that do the paperwork and have to answer to an underwriter. This is the person that calls all the shots (the money man).

How do you know the lender is who they say they are? Well, as my granddad used to say, the proof is in the pudding. A real estate agent doesn't get penny one until the property gets sold. So what is in their best interest? GET ‘ER DONE! If you want the names of a number of dependable lenders see you agent. Agents know which lenders with blow smoke in your ears and which one gets the job done. Your agent has a working relationship with a number of reputable lenders. All you have to do is ask. So we are back to square one:

SEE YOUR AGENT FIRST

Michelle Way
AVALAR Pro Realty - Jackson, MS
ABR, GRI, WCR
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Apr 19, 2007 08:16 AM
Ian Fregin
UCM - Virginia Beach, VA
I would just like to clarify that all loan originators, regardless of whethey they are a banker or a broker, are ultimately at the mercy of an underwriter. All loans must be underwritten, not just brokered loans. The loan originator never makes the rules...either the company they work for does or the bank they are acting as a broker for does.
Apr 19, 2007 08:20 AM
Lysa Napolitano
Daytona Beach, FL

Russ, first of all Aloha from Florida to Missouri. Thanks for taking the time to explaining all this, now somethings make sense!

Apr 19, 2007 10:16 AM
Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645

I have to say the what Ian said is right, but missed the point you are making.  Thew good loan officers run everything through the underwriter up front.  That minimizes alter surprises.

I have told more than a couple of folks your story about having to choose a new loan officer or a new agent.  It is a bit blunt but it gets the point across.

Apr 19, 2007 11:11 AM
Ian Fregin
UCM - Virginia Beach, VA

That is very true...good LOs run things by the underwriter first. I do get the point of the post...I've actually said the flip-side to borrowers when I see that they are working with an agent that I have known to do bad work.

I just want to make sure everyone understands that underwriting guidelines change on a daily basis. Especially in the last few months. Particularly when you have a borrower who "barely qualifies", the slightest change in underwriting guidelines can kill a deal, or force it to another lender, and that is hardly the fault of the loan officer. We can stay on top of guidelines day in and day out, but if they change there is nothing we can do but find another program for the borrower.

I think its important to work with professionals that you know act in good faith. Particularly with first-time homebuyers, your lender really needs to take the time - BEFORE they start house hunting -  to educate them on their options, the process, rates, terms, market fluctuations, etc. The more educated the borrower is, the more likely they are to make smart decisions throughout the process.

Apr 20, 2007 01:49 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE
That's right!  Seasoned agents have been working with reputable lenders, LO's, and know who may be a suitable one for the client.  I usually give out a couple so they can pick.... but...if they already have a lender then who am i to sway until it starts going down the tube.  And as Ian just stated....we as good realtors need to educate our buyer's if first time....and refer our client's to LO's that we know will educate them as well....good post russ.....had to come back this morning so I could read the whole thing....good morning...and have a good Friday!
Apr 20, 2007 04:56 AM
Anonymous
Russ Prothero

I know the point about LOs going through the underwriter first but a real good LO knows the product so well the underwriter is just there to check for any changes in the product. I have about 6 LOs that I love to work with each has their own products. Then there are the Banks with lower loan fees and sometimes inhouse appraisers. Some work for some clients better than others. There is a fit between buyer, Loan product and home or investment. Not all homes fit every buyer and I'm not just talking about price. In our area we have manufactured home, modular homes, singlewides, frame there are many time a singlewide is sitting on 20 acres of land and not all buyers can qualify to buy that home. The only place to get a loan on that property is through a in house bank loan. Banks just hate to lend on bare land and you need at least a 640 middle score to qualify for that singlewide and they will want at least 20% down. Now I know that when you say singlewide everyone cringes but take into account that this property has a well 5-10 thousand, a septic system 5-7 thousand, electic hookup things start to look a little different. I tell folk to bring wennies and marshmellow and do a test burn with the fire department. This is a joke but sometimes it's not far from reality. As a Realtor I give my client the choice between 4 - 6 LOs that I know do their job well. The same goes for home inspectors. We don't have state licencing on home inspectors so any John Henry can come along a say "Hay I'm a House Inspector" Ya Right. Even contracts say to me I'm a Contractor I don't need a home inspection my reply is "are you going to crawl under that house where there could be snakes. They all say the same thing "A NO" then I tell them "Then you need a home inspection. I also have all my clients and customer sign the HUD sheet on home inspections. I tell it this way "your agent is telling PLEASE get a house inspection and Sign here at the bottom. This verifies that I as their agent I told them to DON'T be Silly get a home inspection.

In Your Service, Russ Prothero

 

Apr 20, 2007 05:40 AM
#7
Randy L. Prothero
eXp Realty - Hollister, MO
Missouri REALTOR, (808) 384-5645
One nice thing here is we don't have snakes under the houses.  We do have a few at the legislature though.
Apr 20, 2007 09:01 AM