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Florida Commercial Mortgages | Small Balance Loans: Just 3% down??

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Real Estate Agent with THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct

So I was driving to a client and heard on the radio a commercial that played out like a skit

  • One guy was telling the other that he was expanding his business and needed a commercial loan.
  • The second one told him he just refinanced his commercial office condo and it was great.
  • Come to find out you can refinance or purchase a commercial property with just 3% Down!!

Well... ummmm... Yeah!

The commercial was great at luring in the unsuspecting small business type... but what it didn't say was WHO IS THE LENDER?! (which I believe is illegal)...they just said go to wubba wubba wubba just three percent dot com...

I applaud people for stepping up in this market where office and warehouse properties are so hot.  With rates where they are, this is a great time for small businesses to stop paying rent and start building equity.

BUT... at what cost??
The Lender in Question is Silverhill Financial... part of the Bayview Financial Family.  They are what is called SMALL BALANCE LENDERS.

What does that mean?
Well... they typically cover the smaller end of the spectrum for commercial lending. 

You see... some banks won't touch anything under $1Million... some $500Thousand... but Silverhill goes down to $200Thousand! 

Which Banks??
To be honest - your bank!  Most big name retail banks are not too keen on lending to small businesses if they have any issue whatsoever from credit to being only open a few years

What's the hitch?
Well... for some there aren't any. I do have access to Silverhill Wholesale... so I can originate the loan for my clients.

The problem is that these Small Balance Commercial Lenders are more like Equity Lenders...they say Collateral Based Lending though.  They're more interested in a reasonable credit score and the property than the individual...

What does that mean to small businesses?
Higher Rates... yes... Silverhill's Rates are notoriously high... not as high as their sister company Interbay though!

So why would you go there?
Ease... that's about all...if you really can't get your bank to do your loan, you go there...

But is that where I take my clients?
No...I have never used Silverhill... or Interbay... in fact I know a guy trying to leave Interbay and refinance... and Can't!

Why??
Because besides much higher rates, the kicker in these loans is that they have very long prepayment penalties and sometimes Interest Guarantees!

Prepayment Penalty: This is what you must pay if you decide to sell, refinance or pay off the loan balance before a specific time.  In commercial, this can be from 3 to 10 years! 

  • If 3 years, it is usually 5% in the first year, 3% in the second and 1% in the third. 
  • 5 years is usually 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%, 1% or sometimes 5-5-3-3-1
  • 7 years is 5-5-3-3-3-1-1
  • 10 years is either 5-5-5-4-4-4-3-3-3-1 or sometimes 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1... and I was quoted one that was 10year 5% flat for the whole time!

Interest Guarantees: This is when the lender requires a certain amount of repayment regardless of the term of the loan... Interbay has this nasty habit of a 48 month interest guarantee... so if you sell in year 2, you still owe 24 months of interest PLUS your prepayment penalty

So... what do I do instead?
Simply put - make relationships.

I know ... vague... but my techniques are the thing that differentiate me from anyone else.  I'll just say this.  I have a list of over 100 commercial lenders - a lot of them are local.  I earn my fees by knowing which banks are most likely to fund each borrower and property.  I then get the loan packaged properly for that lender and Voila!

It isn't THAT easy... and it is something I have spent considerable time putting together as a business plan.

But what would I tell you?
Commercial Property IS about leverage... but only so far as the business can and should support it.  I can't think of a business out there that would benefit from 97% loan to value... in fact I think 80-85% is where the sweet spot is for owner occupied properties.

I would suggest that there are all sorts of techniques to come up with the extra monies above and beyond the 3% that will strain your finances and your business a lot less in the short and long term than putting down only 3%.

Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Hey David, I would be very interested in your insight in whom you have used.  Feel free to contact me via here or by email jsardi@fcegi.com.  Thanks.

Apr 21, 2007 09:06 AM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!
Sure thing - I'll send a few your way that work nationally or that I know have offices in your area
Apr 21, 2007 09:17 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

David,,,  I have heard of this company.... but I have many other outlets other than Interbay ... and many that will do 200k and still give a low rate. Just food for thought. I do know someone that will do less than 5% down, but I don't know much about this... thanks for the input.

                                                                                                             jeff belonger

Apr 21, 2007 03:00 PM
Cyndee Haydon
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
727-710-8035 Clearwater, Beach Short Sales Luxury Condos &Homes

David. (I've been blogging too long today - forgive me - I was writing you my Florida friend)

Can you do commercial loans in Pinellas County - I have a friend/client looking to purchase @ $1M building - he just got a patent through the UL and is looking to do some light manufacturing. Just thought I'd ask if it might be a prospect for you.

P.S. Did you see your 2nd link love I posted today.

Apr 22, 2007 03:12 PM
Cyndee Haydon
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
727-710-8035 Clearwater, Beach Short Sales Luxury Condos &Homes
David - of course I meant you I think I'm suffering from Bulging Blogging Eyes at this point - thanks for the email to clarify. Jeff's name was above my post - on second thought could have been a blonde moment.  
Apr 22, 2007 03:24 PM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

Jeff: I have plenty as well... I was mainly exposing the Silverhill math

There are definite issues with small commercial loans because a lot of BIG banks don't respect them and just simply don't take the risk

That's why it is good to be in the trenches and know the local people that are hungry for those type loans to put a deal together.

I currently have my pipeline at about 60/40 residential to commercial... on these size deals it is extremely important to have the availability of residential loans because sometimes the individual needs some restructuring as well... plus equity in the house is often less expensive than in the commercial property.  Also, there are a lot of small local banks that work with brokers like me to bring in business from $3M on down specifically because they don't have the marketing reach to attract clients like a big bank.

Also - what I'm saying about under 5% down is that there are inherent cash flow risks to the business.  These smaller deals often won't rent on the market at a profit but for a small business that wants to owner occupy a property it is less important because the bank sees their growth potential.

I actually have a couple local lenders that for the right niche do 100% for commercial properties... and they're GREAT rates and programs - not at all like the programs I created this post to describe.

I've spent a lot of time on a lot of time pounding the pavement and phones building a solid list of lenders ... and this is what I've really done to position myself to be a good small business commercial mortgage consultant as well as a residential guy...

Small businesses is still about the hand holding... the owners don't have the time or ability to really work the deal without some sort of adverse reaction in their business life.  Then they call someone in their current network of business advisors to help but they don't have the big lending picture in their minds..., I'm the lender-brain... I'm the one that looks at every angle and helps the small business owner fix themselves on their business and leave the investigating and negotiating to someone who already knows what's out there and who is the right lender for that client, not the other way around.

Apr 22, 2007 03:29 PM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

Cyndee - :) I did see the link love... I appreciate it very much!

 

Apr 22, 2007 03:29 PM
Scott Hoag
FBC Mortgage - Clearwater, FL
Preferred Lender / Mortgage Company
Commercial loans are a pain in the butt.  I've spent a lot of time learning about them, not that much time getting paid to do them.  I think I'll stick with residential and refer you all my clients.
Jul 01, 2007 09:43 AM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

Scott ... I'd be happy to take the referrals.  I got my official start in Real Estate as a commercial Realtor... I have the lapel pin to prove it!

I love the differences in the two sides of real estate finance.  Having both in my arsenal helps me help small business people!

Jul 01, 2007 10:58 AM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!
Scott ... I'm happy to help your clients with their loans.  I got my "official" start in Real Estate as a Commercial Realtor.  I love the finance side so it was a great transition.  I love having both residential and commercial in my arsenal to help small business people grow their businesses.
Jul 01, 2007 11:00 AM
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Jul 02, 2007 03:43 PM
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David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

Rod - thanks for the comment - I had to edit it slightly... this is exactly what I mean... I have a long long list of commercial lenders, banks, etc so that I can help all types of commercial clients with any property type!

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I must say that many of you have done your homework and see exactly what various lenders are offering to clients.  Although there is nothing wrong with what they are offering, but if I have to quote my client a 12-14% rate that is tied to a 3-5yr lockout period in additon to his/her ppp, that is a bit much.  In today's market for residential brokers it is extremely hard, but commercial lending is alive and well. 

Bayview has positioned themselves in the right place to attract residential broekrs and unless theya re aware of lenders that can offer lending programs at much better rates/terms they will not do much business.  Finding a lender that offers nationwide lending from $100K ~ $8M can be right under your nose if you look.   Finding a lender that closes SBA 504 loans, limited use type properties like gas stations, restaurants, automotive etc; that is where a lot of viable transactions are today.  And when you can get your client rates less than 10% and you still make 1-2% YSP on a 5yr fixed loan, that is really helping you client and opening the flood gates to closing more loans.

10/13/2007 by Rod Brown, REM Capital Group Delete Report as Spam

Oct 13, 2007 03:15 PM
Anonymous
Rod Brown
No problem I do understand, maybe we should talk one day if you are looking for lender options.
Oct 22, 2007 02:38 AM
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Chris Grattan
LandMAX Capital Group - South Bend, IN
I don't use either Inerbay or Silver Hill.  I try to bypass commercial lenders as much as possible. I go directly to the fund managers because I can get my clients better terms.
Oct 25, 2007 01:02 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

David, I'm glad someone raised this one up. I wasn't on AR when you first wrote it. I appreciate the info on Silver Hill. Thet've been marketing to me regularly and I was thinking of using them.

Thanks.

Bill Roberts

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