I've Been Hijacked

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

2 days ago in the middle of a hectic day of a real estate broker in a very slow market came a call and the gentleman, who told me he wa from PayPal, asked me if I could tell him when I paid anyting by Paypal. We do use Paypal, and of course, I do not remember all the details, so I was hesitant, but the gentleman was asking a rhetorical question. He already knew what I didn't, and this was the news that somebody got access to my PayPal account and tried to steal the money.

When he asked me whether I bought anything that very day for 165 British Pounds, I adamantly denied. But he already figure it out, and just wanted me to confirm.

Somebody tried to buy something (I think this  was a cell phone) on Ebay, and pay using my Paypal. The shipping address is in Lithuania.

The gentleman told me to go to my account, and when there, to change my password. he said he would take care of the incident, that they put me on something limited, meaning that every time I need to make a payment using Paypal, I would need, I think, to contact them.

Of course, this is an incovenience, but a lesser one, than banking somebody's Ebay purchases.

I do hate changing passwords. I am afraid one day being left in a situation when I can't figure out my own password, and not being able to use my own computer.

Guys, be careful. It is wild west out there.

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Jon Zolsky, your Daytona Beach Connection
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Mike Saunders
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Jon - sorry to hear this happenned to you. Did you get your money back? I am with you on computer passwords though, I try to be secure and have several different passwords, but, sometimes I forget which one goes where.

Nov 28, 2008 03:27 AM #13
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Jon- That sounds really awful. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I have a video on my YouTube channel about Internet Security Tips from Norton. Anyone can check it out for more information on how to avoid identity theft and scams online!

Nov 28, 2008 04:26 AM #14
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Paula - I had this experience with the bank calling when they suspect something, and also credit card calling about charges that they are not sure about.

Nov 28, 2008 01:27 PM #15
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Susan Haughton
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My husband took me on a shopping spree a few months ago;  by the time we got everything to the car, his cell phone was ringing - it was his credit card company, inquiring as to whether or not he was using his card!  We were impressed, that's for sure.

Nov 28, 2008 01:54 PM #16
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Eau Claire - you hear about something, but ddo not really pay attention until it happens to you or someone you know well.

I did not know that they are that vulnerable

Nov 28, 2008 01:57 PM #17
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Kristin - I thought about closing, but then you create inconvenience for yourself. It is  a very good way to pay for eBay, as there is a protection for you money. Anyway, I did not lose the money.

Nov 28, 2008 01:58 PM #18
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Robert W. May - turned out he wa not a phisher. He never asked me for anything. He told me that they would limit my account, that he would take care of that payment, and he told me to go to my account and change the password.

I was cautious, but there was nothing he asked, that I would have to give him.

And when I went to the account to change the password, my PayPal account already was put in this limited status, and there was a notation about that money.

Anyway, 3 days later, 3 calls to PayPal and to my bank, the money is returned to me. I can only praise their operation.

Nov 28, 2008 02:02 PM #19
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Lenn - We did not recognize the charge on a credit card and I called them. The minute they classified it as a possible fraud, that was it. The card was gone.

We called the vendor of this suspicious charge, and turned out they were decent people, they returned the money, but I had to wait for a new card.

Well, better that than have someone steal the money

Nov 28, 2008 02:05 PM #20
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Greg,

That's how I had it. That's why when they ran the charge, there was not even enough money to cover. I called the bank anyway to tell them about the whole story, and I asked them not to charge $35 insufficient funds fee. They promised, and I will se tomorrow whether they did it.

Nov 28, 2008 02:08 PM #21
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Rich - This is exactly what I always think. If people spend as much time and creativity on positive stuff, they would become wealthy.

When I am getting all these scam e-mails, I always think that in 400 richest people in Forbes Magazine became rich not by screwing old people of their $50. They are not there. But take a local jail, and you will find a lot of those there.

Choosng the  right side is a challenge for some people

Nov 28, 2008 02:11 PM #22
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Laura -  I thought I am protected. I actually follow good rules not to store this stuff on the computer, not to have the passwords automatic (do not mark "remember me", have a Live One Care, whihc is good.

But I am not a match for professional hackers.

Nov 28, 2008 02:13 PM #23
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Linda,

There are so many places where your card is used. Paying for gas, paying in hotels, and tons of other small places.

I had a small restaurant, and we had a credit card machines. I have credit cards for 5.5 years for everyone who ate there.

This is about 20,000 credit card numbers. All stapled together witht he reports in storage. What if a crook gets them and he would have a lot of card info.

Nov 28, 2008 02:17 PM #24
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Mike Michaud - I actually appreciated them calling me very much. You just have to be careful and not give them any infomration. He did not ask for any. But when someone tells you to go to your account and change password and that they have limited my account, and when I log in I see that they already made changes, i know that I deal with the right people.

Nov 28, 2008 02:19 PM #25
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Carol - keep using. Just be vigilant. And I hape changing passwords.

Nov 28, 2008 02:20 PM #26
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Michael Setunsky  - They returned the money today, so this is a wonderful case when they were not setting me up.

And I love it

Nov 28, 2008 02:22 PM #27
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Ilyce Glink - Thanks

Nov 28, 2008 02:22 PM #28
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Tchaka Owen
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I'm not convinced that PayPal accounts are so easily hacked.  There's a lot of phishing going on, but if you don't fall prey to that and you have a complex password, you should be ok.  By complex, I mean something like D6A5Y4T3O2N1A......as opposed to Daytona123.

Nov 28, 2008 03:03 PM #29
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Tchaka - I guess they somehow can get the info. When they get it, it does not matter how complex it is as long as they do not need to decipher.

I am not familiar how they can get the info, but I know that they somehow got it and tried to by something using my money. The did not succeed this time, but they might be doing a lot of these transactions, and some may work simply because both PayPal and the owner do not notice the transaction until it is too late.

In that sense I was lucky.

Nov 28, 2008 04:18 PM #30
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Anybody can get any information they want about you from anywhere. Nothing online is totally secure. No credit cards are secure. No passwords are foolproof. You take chances every single day and hope the hackers go elsewhere, but there are no guarantees.

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Nov 29, 2008 09:19 AM #31
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Elizabeth - true. I was once talking to the guy resposible for software systems and security of banks. I asked him whether their data is secure. He looked at me and said that this was not even their concern. He said there is no need to try to steal the card numbers from the bank when they are readily available in hotels, stores, gas stations, and restuarants.

ANother friend of mine in Russia is selling information about the compnaies. There production volume, line of products, etc. They can also, for separate pay, can tell you who sleeps with whom. There is nothing that can't be snooped

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