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Sundance Trails and Sundance Ridge face new home plans

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Real Estate Agent with Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME

Protesters in Philadelphia's Love Park

image courtesy of tilaneseven

KB Home's recent announcement of plans to build smaller homes in community stirs up a lot of feelings.

KB Home decided to build some new floorplans in their community at Sundance Trails and Sundance Ridge recently and it has been causing a bit of a stir.  The communities, located off Potranco outside the 1604, started with brick front homes and two or three car garages ranging from $125,000 and went up into the $200,000s.  Now KB Home is moving in with floorplans starting at $93,995 that are smaller and may be built with siding instead of brick.  KB Home says they are reacting to the marketplace and the economy, but residents feel their getting the short end of the stick.  By building these new homes, the current residents fear that their home values will drop and the neighborhood they thought they would be living in (based on similar homes), will be no longer.

Builders have to watch their bottom line.

Builder are in business to make money.  That's the prupose of just about any business I guess.  In doing so, they sometimes have to make decisions like this to make sure they can continue.  As the housing market has slowed (and KB Home isn't just here in TX, so they're dealing with their bottom line in many different markets), KB has had to make decisions to adjust.

Residents have to be concerned about their community.

When a buyer purchases a home in a community, they are buying more than just the home.  They are buying into the community and quite often, it provides them with a certain sense of pride.  They chose this community for their own specific reasons and when the community changes in a way they don't agree with, I can imagine their frustration.  These homeowners expecting one thing and are now getting another.

What can you do?

The residents of Sundance Trails and Sundance Ridge have been meeting and protesting the changes.  Some residents have even said they would move as soon as possible to get out of the neighborhood.  When buying in a new neighborhood, the best advice I could give you is to ask to see the deed restrictions.  By looking at these you will know what is and isn't allowable in the new community.  Of course, you have to think outside of those restrictions.  If it doesn't mention "no mobile homes," then there's always the chance that someone could build a mobile home there.  If it says "no horses," then you can forget your daughter's dream of owning a pony - at least in that house.  Deed restrictions are a great way to look at the vision for a community before its completely built.  It won't answer all your questions, but it will give you some knowledge that might lead you to ask some of the questions.

You can read more about the homeowner's point of view and ideas to solve the problem at www.sundancefamily.com.

Shirley Parks
Sands Realty 210-414-0966 - San Antonio, TX
Broker, 210-414-0966, San Antonio TX Real Estate

Hi Matt, Thanks for keeping everyone updated on the KB communities here in San Antonio.

Nov 29, 2008 03:05 AM
Todd Clark - Retired
eXp Realty LLC - Tigard, OR
Principle Broker Oregon
I think the community might want to look at the alternative, whick is over grown vacant lots owned by a bankrupt builder. This can ower a properties value quicker than anything that builder can build on that property. Great communtiy post and hope you have had a great first month in the rain, look forward to seeing you around.
Nov 29, 2008 03:10 AM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Matt, it is a difficult issue, if you look at it from builder on one hand and home-owners on the other. We have seen this happen in my area. Homes started in low 500's, can now be built in the low 300's. Builders have a right to sustain their business and respond to the market. Home owners already built there have a right to protect their values.

In our area, until the sub is 75% sold, the developer has development control and can change the Association Doc's. He can also sign off on any exceptions.

This is hard and I can see it both ways. Hopefully they can sit down and come to a meeting of the minds, before a bunch of money is spent in court.

Nov 29, 2008 03:17 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Shirley - I learned from you and Kristin!  It will only get better as I go.

Todd - You've got a great point there.  Standard Pacific Homes left San Antonio with empty lots not too long ago.  As for the first month, its been wonderful.

Missy - That's the problem, I do see both sides of the issue.  A business has to adapt or risk going under.  Homeowners want what they thought they were getting.  Its like land fills and power plants.  We need more of them, but we don't want them near us.

I've updated the post to contain the link that wasn't working this morning.

Nov 29, 2008 03:53 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

I've actually spoken to several of the community organizers this weekend via email and I was definitely excited to get feedback from them.  I'd like to point out that if you go their site, I am very happy to see their "rules" for picketing (they are keeping things "calm" even though I know they are probably more angry than clam) and they went on at length about "full disclosure" which as an agent, is very refreshing to hear.  Kudos to them for really trying their best to do things the right way.

Nov 30, 2008 04:07 AM
Anonymous
Carol Felix

KB Homes is currently doing the same thing to our neighborhood in the Stablewood Farms community in Cypress, TX.  They somehow took control of our HOA board and not one member of our neighborhood resides on the board.  Then they changed the deed restrictions to allow them to build $70,000+ homes beginning at a little over 1100 square foot with no masonary.  They're building them right across from our pool and playground area.  We were told when we bought our homes that there would be $200,000+ homes built in the remaining undeveloped land.  Could someone from Sundance Ridge/Trails please contact me so we can have a joint effort to stop KB Homes from destroying our neighborhoods?

May 16, 2009 06:55 AM
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Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Carol - I sent you an email, hope it helps.  I think you're going to see more and more builders doing this unfortunately.  Many of them are struggling to survive and if no one's buying the homes they're building, they have to try something in order to survive.  As I've said many times before, it's a struggle for me - I see both sides.  The builder is a business trying to make money and the residents expect a certain style of neighborhood.  It's tough, but I know in the case of Sundance, they handled themselves well and got some results.  Just remember to get all the facts, understand the laws and rules, and do it peacefully and with a smile.  The more frustrated and angry you get and allow the neighborhood to get, the more the builders will push back.  By staying calm and working hard to get the change, you may just be able to find a compromise.

May 17, 2009 12:13 AM