Confessions of a Rehabber...

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with Kirby Fine Homes

 Take it from me, or anyone else you know for that matter, deciding to buy a fixer-upper and tackle the task of remodeling is no easy feat. Sure, all those infomercials out there claim you can make quick money flipping, but what they neglect to tell you about is all the headaches that come with it too.

My husband and I have done three homes - one small 1000 square foot home built in 1945 and two huge Queen Anne Victorians of 4000 square feet each. Here are some things we learned.

 

 

 


  • Don't let your eyes be bigger than your pocket book, no matter how much you love the home.
  • If that little voice inside your head is telling you to walk away, do what it says! Don't force the purchase of a home that will turn into a money pit.
  • Alwaysuse a contractor. Yes, I know you do-it-yourselfers out there will disagree, but for the hassle of handling 6 sub-contractors yourself, being on the job site everyday, and making sure the city doesn't shut you down because you forgot to pull a permit, is just not worth the ulcer it will cause.
  • Always get a written contract with the Contractor that is VERY specific on what the contractor will be doing for his fee. A hand shake over lunch is just plain dumb. Protect yourself!
  • Always put any changes you make during the project in writing and what the cost will be. Don't make the mistake of hearing from the contractor that he doesn't "remember" those changes. It will cost you more money!
  • Do not pay for the entire project up front and do not pay with cash. Create a paper trail with receipts and signatures.
  • Better yet, tell the contractor you would like to pay any bills to the sub-contractors directly. The last thing you need is for the contractor to tell you he paid them, when he just pocketed the money. (We lost $5000 this way)
  • Please, please, please pull the proper permits. Don't be dishonest just to save a few bucks.
  • If you are not happy with the way something looks, don't be afraid to speak up. Tell the contractor to fix it, and at no cost to you. Their mistake or poor work is not your fault.
  • If your contractor doesn't show up one day and is full of excuses, fire him now! If you let it happen once, he will keep taking advantage of you. Oh, and if you smell alcohol on any one's breath, get rid of them.
  • Lastly, ALWAYS have an exit strategy. Know if you are going to keep the home as a rental, flip it fast, or move into it.
Before we got into rehabbing, we educated ourselves about cash flow, creative financing, the local real estate market, and more. We spent two years preparing before we bought the first home. Trust me, it is nothing to just jump into. Understand too that you might possibly fail. Failure is normal in this line of business and you might face foreclosure, or have to sell the home at a loss. Keep your chin up and realize that you only learn from your mistakes.

All of the confessions above happened to us in one way or another. While I don't know if we will ever tackle another project, I still get the urge every time I see a beautiful home hidden by dirt and debris!

Do you have any horror stories or advice to add? Let me know !

Article courtesy of my blog Minneapolis Real Estate.

Comments (31)

Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent

Paul - you must always have a detailed plan for the project and also tack on extra money for the unknowns that always pop up. If you don't, then you are doomed to failure!

Daniel - yes, always check and get copies. A good word of advice is to keep copies of all licenses and proof of their insurance on the job site. That way if a city inspector decides to stop by and ask for them, you don't have to worry about being shut down until you furnish them.

Craig - it might take them a week to "do" the work, but it takes a couple more weeks to buy the home and sell it. I don't consider a job "finished" until it is sold.

Sharon - very true...it always costs more than you think it will, especially on a historic home!

Mario- we used hard money on the first two,and we were VERY conscious on how much it was costing us daily. Hard money loans are not for everyone and I would advise a newbie to not use them as they could find themselves in financial trouble trying to make the payments or having to refinance if the project goes over.

Apr 27, 2007 08:09 AM
George Tallabas
RE/MAX Advantage - Nampa, ID
Idaho Real Estate
Hi Jennifer...nice reminder for everyone.  My investor and I have been purchasing foreclosures and rehabing them now for 18 + years and "Knock on Wood" we have been very fortunate with no big issues.  Take care and have a great weekend.
Apr 27, 2007 08:37 AM
Betsy Locke
Cash Now Realty - Charlotte, NC

Jennifer,

We have taken a different approach and just show the Rehabber's or anyone else for that matter what can be done with the property. We find it helps those with little vision of the after portion of the project.

www.restorehistory.com

Apr 27, 2007 09:26 AM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent

George- by the time one gets to the level you are at, I hope you don't have any big issues...I am sure you have seen it all and have some great stories!

Betsy- your website is a great way to portray a vision. I find one of the most difficult aspects of rehabbing is seeing what the house can become.

Apr 27, 2007 12:55 PM
Dena Stevens Coriz
Rocky Mountain Realty - Canon City, CO
Putting The Real Into Realtor Since 2004
humming, been there done that, and broke every rule. If there is a next time for me, I'll do a better job and do it with out a partner. In the case of fixer uppers two heads are not better than one.
Apr 28, 2007 02:40 PM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent
Dena - another good point. I too started a project with a partner and after one month, I told him to take a hike. He was telling the contractor ways to cut corners to save a buck. When I found out the contractor put R15 insulation in the attic floor then covered it up with flooring so I wouldn't see, I fired the partner and made the contractor rip up the flooring and do it right.
Apr 29, 2007 01:03 AM
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager
There are so many novice rehabbers out there these days... it's scary.  Very few did the research you did, and you still had hard lessons to learn.  Good article.
Apr 29, 2007 05:54 AM
Uzi Husain
Keller Williams Integrity First - Scottsdale, AZ

Excellent post!  A great site to check contractor licences at least here in AZ is The Arizona Register of Contractors.  I also agree with "firing the contractor if he is a no show" we didn't do that because we were on a tight budget and basically a job that should have been complete in 3 weeks took over 3 months.

Cheers,
Uzi Husain
Arizona Realtor, serving Goodyear & The Phoenix metropolitan area

Apr 29, 2007 01:54 PM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent

Carol - we did the research and still got burned in the process. The one thing you can't manage is other peoples ethics.

Uzi- yes, sometimes you find yourself in that little Catch 22. On one project we went through three contractors!

Apr 30, 2007 07:52 AM
Phil Malhao
Elite Legacy Realty Inc. - Orlando, FL

Great post. Been rehabbing for many years and education is the key. If you do not know what you are doing, then even the best contractor will try to eat you alive. You must know your numbers, or they will try to fudge your budget. Believe me, even with my experience they try it all the time. When you do major rehabs, you will uncover things that you did not budget for, and you must be educated enough to know what you should be getting charged and how to solve the problem economically without letting the contractor convince you to tear down the house and start from scratch. I got so tired of having to teach contractors how to do their jobs that we now use our own company trained project managers to manage sub-contractors for our projects.

May 20, 2007 05:45 AM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent

Phil- don't even get me started on contractors. You really have to stand your ground with them as they will try to pick at you until you bleed green. You are definitely right...you have to know the costs involved and your budget. If you give in even once, then they know they have you. Like I said, we spent two years researching how to rehab, financing, costs, etc before we jumped in. When we were rebuilding a two-story porch on one home, we took some bids. We knew it should cost only $10,000 after doing our homework, so when bids started coming in at $20,000, and one for $30,000 we just had to laugh. They thought we were suckers. Finally an honest guy came along and told us flat out he could do it for $12,000. He laughed when he heard the other bids and agreed the others were trying to take advantage of us. We were in our late 20's at the time so our youth made us look weak, at least in the eyes of an older contractor.

May 20, 2007 08:26 AM
Donald Sutherland
Marathon Constructors Inspection Services - Seward, AK
Inspector-Seward, Alaska

Jennifer,

I started my career buying fixer uppers. I bought a lot of books, spent lot's of library time, talked to lot's of professionals, then dove in. My bride and I moved from one room to the next while we rehabed. Not a pleasant experience and not conducive to maintaining a marriage. But, we were successful and patient, then we did several more. It paid off very well.

Alaska Don

May 27, 2007 06:53 AM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent

Don- if you have the patience and know that you can have a couple failures in with the successes, then you can be very profitable in the flip world.

May 27, 2007 09:47 AM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
Flipping is difficult in our current market, even with lots of construction knowledge and imagination. You really have to keep an eye on the inventory - just like gambling, you need to know when to leave the table with your winnings.
May 29, 2007 11:28 AM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent
Sharon - you definitely have to get the right deal on a home in disrepair in order to flip it for a profit. An investor should do his homework about the DOM and proper pricing in the neighborhood of his potential rehab before even buying. That's why investors need us real estate agents. They are usually too busy to pay attention to the inventory especially in today's market.
May 29, 2007 01:00 PM
Frank Harris
Keller Williams Realty Centre - Columbia, MD
That is a very good list. I am about to jump back into the rehabbing game myself and it is a different mindset and you constantly have to stay on every detail even with a contractor.
Jun 26, 2007 02:43 PM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent
Frank - I was just thinking how I am itching to do another project. Something about tackling the rehab challenge that is so fun. But I know my husband would not want to do another one for awhile. Good Luck and I am envious.
Jun 26, 2007 03:21 PM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

The most important part of the project is "deal evaluation." The deal really has ro make sense, Most remodels don't make sense. You generally have to add square footage to add enough value for the deal to make sense.

I agree with the poster who said he hired his own superintendent (as an employee) and then contract wirh subs to do the actual work. After all, that's what a contractor does. Better to pay an employee a salary than to pay a contractor a profit, It'll be cheaper and you'll get better results.

Good luck on your next project. Don't give up now. You've paid for an education so use it!

Bill Roberts

Jul 03, 2007 07:12 AM
Jennifer Kirby
Kirby Fine Homes - Minneapolis, MN
The Luxury Agent
Bill - we were able to be our own contractor as the local law allowed it. But this is not an option is some counties or states. You have to do the research and see what is allowed. I personally have enough experience to supervise myself as I find most contractors charge above and beyond what is necessary. I would like to tackle another project, but it will have to wait a while as I have two kids under two, and it is hard enough being a real estate agent and supervising those two!
Jul 05, 2007 10:52 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

Hi Jennifer,

Thanks for taking the time to answer me. If a jurisdiction where you want to rehab won't allow an owner/builder maybe getting your own contractor's license is the answer. In most areas there is a work experience requirement. It seems that projects you have done so far might be enough to satisfy those requirements. Like I said before, don't give up now.

Best regards,

Bill Roberts

Jul 05, 2007 11:03 AM

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