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Get Ready for Your Credit Score to Decline - New FICO Formula Kicks in This Month

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Real Estate Agent with Retired

FAIR ISAAC is changing the playing field again, implementing it's latest version of credit scoring FICO 2008. And it doesn't appear that the change will be leveling it. The three major credit reporting agencies will be rolling out the new scoring system this year, with Transunion deploying it in January, Equifax in late spring and Experian at some later date.

The new FICO is touted to better predict the likelihood of a default on the part of the borrower. However, many of the changes appear to be designed to lower credit scores. FICO 2008 will place more emphasis on available credit, not just balances. So, even if you are not carrying a balance, if your credit line is reduced, your FICO score could be lowered. It appears, under the new scoring system, the more available credit you have, the better your score would be. (I remember having been rejected for an airline credit card in the early 90's because I had too much available credit even though most of it was unused). You will also have your credit score reduced by having only a few open and active credit accounts.

Supposedly, there are three changes that will benefit credit consumers.

  • It will ignore debts gone into collection if original debt is less than $100
  • It will not punish single credit set-backs, such as write offs or repossessions as long as all other accounts are in good standing
  • It will continue to use some "authorized-user" information (although this is only a change from the fact that they were going to discard it entirely).

What will this do to the real estate and mortgage industry? I don't see anything good, at least for the first few months of implementation, especially since at any one time the credit agencies may be using different versions of FICO. That can only lead to confusion. Perhaps, in the long run it will lead to fewer defaults, but until it has rolled out completely, the only change that I can see is some tightening.

Personally, I know that my current FICO score is around 800. I am expecting it to drop just since I am using my cards less and my only installment loan will be paid off in April.

Do you know what your score is? You can get an estimated range here.

 

 

Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Thanks Mike, Interesting.  They just want to make formulas for credit, rather than the old days when they had smart credit and lending officers that could judge a person and make those decisions on their own.

Jan 14, 2009 11:31 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Nick - this was about FICO, not the president elect

Gabe - and in those days it was harder to get credit, believe it or not, even if you were qualified

Jan 14, 2009 11:45 PM
Kelsey Barklow
Hurd Realty - Johnson City, TN
423/948-9154

Great article. Thanks for this info. Great topic to send to my SOI.

Jan 14, 2009 11:59 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Kelsey - thanks for reminding me

Jan 15, 2009 04:59 AM
Es r
CSR - Huntington, TX

Great info - Thanks

Jan 15, 2009 05:04 AM
Ann Cummings
RE/MAX Shoreline - NH and Maine - Portsmouth, NH
Portsmouth NH Real Estate Preferrable Agent

Gosh, you do what you think is good and right, and you're going to get dinged for it??  There's something wrong with this picture for sure!  There are so many other far more important things that can and should be worked on, finding ways to lower people's credit scores just isn't oe of them in my book.

Thanks for the heads-up on this.
Ann

Jan 15, 2009 07:27 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

CF - you are welcome

Ann - there is certainly something wrong, they don't look at utility bills, rent, a lot of other things.

Jan 15, 2009 08:37 AM
Antonio M. Cardenas Broker Associate
RE eBroker Group - San Leandro, CA. - San Leandro, CA
"The Realtors In Motion"

Thank you Mike, having a chance to check one's credit is great! I did pass that link along to some of my clients and will keep it for further use. Thank you again.

Antonio

Jan 16, 2009 02:02 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Antonio - that link will help people get into the ballpark on understanding what their score is

Jan 16, 2009 11:20 PM
Mike Henderson
Your complete source for buying HUD homes - Littleton, CO
HUD Home Hub - 303-949-5848

The scoring methodology is changing.  Carefully managing debt is more important than ever.  I'm curious to see how much people's credit changes.

Jan 17, 2009 05:35 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Mike - that is the big unknown in this, other than the credit scores will probably go down.

Jan 18, 2009 12:36 AM
Broker Nick
South Florida Real Estate & Development, Inc. - Coconut Creek, FL
Broker Nick Relocation Broker Service

Mike ~ You are right. I removed the comment. I apologize for not staying on topic.

Jan 18, 2009 02:16 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Nick - thanks, no problem, take care my friend

Jan 18, 2009 06:00 AM
Gary Ward
Advantage Chatuge Realty - Hayesville, NC
Relax, that's what the mountains are for

Something else to keep in mind is the credit available verses  credit used  ratio. In the past you were told to not only pay off your credit card balances but you should close your accounts. Now if I understand correctly ,you want to leave those accounts open as they count toward your credibility. 

 In other words if you have 3 credit cards with a $20,000 limit each,  and you have $15,000 balance total.  Your credit worthiness is $45,000.

 If you pay off the cards and keep them open, Your credit worthiness is $60,000.

 If you pay off the cards and close one, Your credit worthiness is now $40,000.  And your score will drop.

This is a simplified example but you get the idea.

Jan 18, 2009 06:11 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Gary - that is exactly the way I interpret the new rules.

Jan 19, 2009 12:59 AM
Gary Ward
Advantage Chatuge Realty - Hayesville, NC
Relax, that's what the mountains are for

Mike, Yes I do too. But even that is not as scary as what I heard yesterday. I don't know if the source is reliable though.  Have you heard about our governments plan to change our money to the Amero? A combination of Canada, Mexico and the United States funds because we are so far in debt that our dollar is now worthless? According to this guy all our savings will be worth pennies on the dollar. If that happens how much credit you have really won't matter will it? (If you feel this is off subject let me know and I'll start it elsewhere.)

Jan 19, 2009 02:43 AM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Gary - that is one of those urban legends that has been going around for several years.

Jan 19, 2009 03:41 AM
Gary Ward
Advantage Chatuge Realty - Hayesville, NC
Relax, that's what the mountains are for

Like a said not a reliable source. But regardless it just shows that Real estate is still the best place to invest your money. And if it's cash even better!

Jan 19, 2009 05:35 AM
Kelsey Barklow
Hurd Realty - Johnson City, TN
423/948-9154

Mike, can I post this in my local SOI email newsletter?

Jan 20, 2009 12:30 PM
Mike Saunders
Retired - Athens, GA

Gary - amen

Kelsey - be my guest, the more that know the better our credit might be.

Jan 20, 2009 02:20 PM