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PIGGING OUT! Abuse of the ActiveRain points system…

Reblogger Bruce Brockmeier
Services for Real Estate Pros with Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS®

After doing some research on blogs in my county, I had an LOL moment at what I found.  I was immediately reminded of this true ActiveRain classic - from Russell Lewis in Austin, Texas.  I tried to "bump" this post back up into the Groups, so our new posters can have a chuckle and learn the ropes, but that didn't seem to work. 

Bottom line?  I never give up, so I'm re-blogging his words.

Thanks Russell!  :)

Original content by Russell Lewis 0396717

I recently read two very good posts "Is Your Integrity Worth 25 Points?" - Blog Tips for Rain Drips and another by Bob Cumiskey where he describes bad blogging behavior and states "There are a few "so called bloggers" on the ladder who obviously blog just for the points." Both made me realize that I have also witnessed a number of other blatant attempts to "Game the System" here at Active Rain.Pigging out for points!

A short time after I joined several of us at my office received an email asking us to join ActiveRain and it turned out that the individual sent a mass email to numerous agents. Evidently, the person was hoping to rack up points by signing up new folks. I learned that the person was later contacted by Active Rain and stopped. I noticed later that this same person began to post the maximum allowable posts each week. I am not an editor or critic but none of the posts were compelling and most were cut and pasted with a few remarks and no outside comments, Curious I began to see similar actions in different parts of the country by people who were obviously, as Bob Cumiskey wrote, just Blogging for the points ~ the lazy blogger. I began to see others who would just post listings. One person in particular was part of a real estate team and would post individual units and homes (by copying and pasting the listings) in projects and by different builders who were represented by the whole group to rack up points! I don't really get that because I am unaware of the general public looking at listings on Active Rain since there are so many other sites where buyers can already view listings and home data.

Recently I noticed a new person rocketing up the ladder in my area  and when I looked at this person's profile and blog was amazed to see that they had created hundreds of posts and sent them to 30 and 40 groups at a time. I later saw that many of the posts had the X beside them but, undaunted, the individual continues to post 10 at a time in as many as 50 groups and continues to amass points. I assume the AR guardians will do something soon but that is as sad as it is irritating. They should not have to police this great site from those too ignorant, irresponsible or self serving to care what is correct protocol or even what constitutes decent manners. Every time I see someone abusing the system I am reminded that these are the same people who act inappropriately in the real world and whose corner cutting, ignoring of rules and unprofessional behavior give our profession a bad name. They are the ones who want to do as little as possible and get something for nothing!

Because of these examples, I decided early on to try and  put out something of good quality. I began to read posts by others and I learned that we must Blog Often but it begins to look like the Laffer Curve as applied to points. Blogging goes up. Points go up but quality can go down and the end result is Less than Zero. I also try to heed the advice that we must Blog with Purpose, I think Adam Waldman wrote that. I try to follow the lead by Rich, Majority Original Content" or "What's the Point of Points?" and especially the idea to adhere to "Free Speech has a Cost" - The ActiveRain Community Guidelines Re-Visited.

Rich Jacobson defined the goal of blogging and commenting perfectly "One of the most basic and foundational tenets of conversational blogging is to engage one another other in meaningful discussion and dialog. In order for this dialog to successfully occur, the blog author's content needs to be mentally digested, and the reader must respond with comments that are relevant to the topic, adding value to the conversation"

That's exactly what we should try and achieve and I really appreciate Active Rain and the new Localism as a platform to grow our business and to top it all off, it's FREE (or at least very reasonably priced when it comes to neighborhoods)! I do not pretend to be a writer and I do realize that I will never be at the top of the ladder locally but I will be happy to be in the top 5 or 10 and plan to make it there by trying to contribute compelling posts of substance, meaning and value to the realtors, lenders and my fellow members of Active Rain. Eventually, as Localism grows I want the general public to see something of value and not just masses of meaningless posts that do nothing to increase the level of discourse within our community.

One last thing, I do comment on posts and many times I see even more great comments and suggestions that add to the value of the original post. I think most people who take the time to write a legitimate blog want to hear a comment when they post so leave a one... whether it's for the points or to add to the discussion

Thanks!

Russell M. LewisSubscribe to Russell's BlogPage copy protected against web site content infringement by Copyscape

Comments(13)

Terry Edwards
Russell & Jeffcoat Real Estate Corp. - Columbia, SC

Bruce

That was a good read.  Thanks for re-posting Russell's position.  It pretty much mirror's mine.

Jan 22, 2009 09:57 PM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Bruce, thanks so much for posting this. I appreciate the attempt to bump up on the list but like you I've noticed that new posts and comments too can sometimes take hours to appear. Must be some kind of new glitch and I am sure it will be fixed soon! Have a great weekend my friend!

Jan 22, 2009 11:01 PM
Sharon Lee
Sharon Lee's Virtual Assistance - Jonesborough, TN
Retired and loving life

Hi Bruce-This is a great post. A reminder to veterans and newbies(me)alike what the real purpose of this network is truly all about. It isn't about the points. While they are nice that is so not the reason for being here. I love it here for the people and the education and the bonus is it is FREE. Have a blessed day.

Jan 23, 2009 12:43 AM
Caren Wallace
Premier Property Group LLC - Tualatin, OR
Portland Caren Real Estate

Commenting on a post is the best way to get involved in the discussion and share your views. It is a the cherry on top of the ice cream sundae!

Jan 23, 2009 01:25 AM
Stephanie Logan
Dune Lake Properties - Moses Lake, WA

Every group has an offensive, opportunistic, rotten apple among them so I just ignore them. Let the cream rise to the top! There are many more good people out there than bad and I have gotten so many good tips and great advice from AR that it is well worth it for me. I love hearing from everyone around the nation. -S

Jan 23, 2009 05:13 AM
Bruce Brockmeier
Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS® - Yorba Linda, CA
Coached By Crouch

Hi Terry, Sharon, Caren and Stephanie!  Thanks for your comments.

Hey Russell,  You have a great weekend too!  Is it Friday already???

Jan 23, 2009 11:27 AM
Chuck Willman
Chuck Willman - Alpine, UT
NewHouseUtah.com

Bruce- Thanks for jogging the memory on this one. It's just silly really- it wouldn't take a consumer very long to "move on" from a blog that offers little content.

Jan 25, 2009 12:10 AM
Bruce Brockmeier
Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS® - Yorba Linda, CA
Coached By Crouch

Hi Chuck,

That's exactly right.  This particular blog I found was laughable.  The intent was clearly to impress the search engines but I can't imagine that it would impress any real buyers.

Jan 25, 2009 05:07 PM
The Rains Team
Keller Williams Realty Atlanta Partners - Hoschton, GA
A higher standard in real estate

Hi Bruce, I had not read this post by Russell before, so I appreciate you re-blogging it. While the points are nice, it's important for us all to remember to post quality, interesting content. I try my best to do that and feel that the more you do it, the better you get at (at least I hope so!!)

Have a great day,

Anne Rains

Jan 26, 2009 05:23 AM
Bruce Brockmeier
Internet Marketing Consultant to REALTORS® - Yorba Linda, CA
Coached By Crouch

You're welcome Anne Rains,

Russell has a special way with words.  By the way, your name is awesome for ActiveRain!!!  :)

Jan 26, 2009 05:29 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Think I would have put this on "members only" visibility. Airing perceived dirty linen does not help the brand of agents or activerain. 

Feb 01, 2009 01:32 AM
Tom Davis
Harrington ERA,DE Homes For Sale, $$ Save $$ Buy Today ! - Dover, DE
FREE Delaware Homes Search!, $$ Save $$ - Find Homes! Delaware Realtor

Hi Bruce,

Just had to laugh at the great picture examples.... great job on this post!

Thanks a lot!

Tom Davis

DE REALTOR (R)

Feb 05, 2009 03:57 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

"Hi Bruce,"  (isn't that personalization stuff impressive?)

I too

"Just had to laugh at the great picture examples.... great job on this post!

Thanks a lot!"

Maureen McCabe

OH REALTOR (R)

I am just out test driving a new and improved ActiveRain signature to see how it works for me.... this comment probably adds nothing to the conversation on your post... or has much to do about what you wrote about... it is just an exercise.  Feel free to delete it.  I really don't need the points and at some point my signature is going to go back to my name, my location, my company.... 

 

Feb 05, 2009 11:55 PM