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New Favorite Camera? Samsung 24mm? 28mm vs 24mm vs 23mm

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc

Update 9-1-09: The NV24 is now getting harder to fine on Amazon for $150 refurbished. Also look at the prices on the Samsung HZ10W 10MP, which is just as wide at 24mm, but it is a bigger camera (probably sharper). It might even be cheaper than the NV24. Also Canon is coming out with a 24mm. Kinda the best of all worlds below (sharp and wide and small). But should be like $300.

So I have written a ton about my favorite camera the Kodak v570 and v705. No other camera came close. Here is a link to other reviews and HOW to buy it. It offered

Pro:

1) 23mm The widest lens, and WIDE is what matters in real estate

2) In camera stitching. So you can take 3 photos that are 23mm and IN CAMERA (no annoying software) make it into a long 180+ panoramic.

Cons:

1) They break easily. (sometimes you can get it fixed on ebay for $40)

2) Not too sharp as a travel camera. I actually had to bring the v705 for wide stuff and my Canon 8700 for sharper stuff.

The next closest wide camera was the Panasonic 25mm. One of my agents got this when the Kodak broke. He was depressed, it wasn't nearly as good.

Well I had ruled out the Samsung 24mmHD since I thought it was in HD format for the photos. In other words, I thought it chopped off the top and bottom. I WAS SO WRONG. It only does that in 1 of the 5 video modes.

Canon sd870IS at 8mp a 28mm lens.

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Samsung 24mm   NV24HD 10.1MP  (for the new model search for Samsung HZ10W)

 

Kodak v705 23mm Dual Lens

 

Oh and here is the Kodak v570 with the 3 camera stitch which is amazing.

(disregard the lines, I was lazy and was shooting through a screen)

Quality? I don't think the v705 is very sharp. I'm not talking MP, I'm talking lens sharpness. Here is a close up of all 3 cameras. This is NOT scientific since the light changed and some are shot at 7mp and some at 10mp. I think the Samsung is the clearest.

Canon 870

Samsung 24mm

 

Kodak v705

 

Video


Canon 870

 

 


Samsung 24mm. The coolest feature is the ability to PAUSE. This is HUGE! This can save HOURS of video editing time. If you are reviewing a neighborhood... talk/shoot... pause... shoot more... awesome!

 


Kodak v705 (in video mode the 23mm turns into 28mm)

 


Conclusion?

For Real Estate Photos only: The Kodak v705, as WIDE #1 and the panoramic is awesome

For Travel Photos: canon 870IS Samsung 24mm.

For Video: Samsung 24mm! MUCH wider than the kodak in video mode, and the video has PAUSE.

 

Well now the v705 has some competition. So I would not feel comfortable recommending the Samsung 24mm. And if you are doing video, the Samsung is hands down better.

 

And of course, the momen I find something... it has a replacement for $300.

Samsung HZ10W 10MP 24mmHD

And don't miss my other posts comparing the Nikon d90 with 15mm wide video.

 

Frank

Anonymous
Roberto
Hey Frank, There are a few things you'd want to do with the Kodak v570 to improve sharpness and grainyness... change the setting for non-auto ISO, high Sharpness, and bring it to High Color. You'll see a difference in photographic quality. As for the video on the v570, that's really interesting that it is less than the 28mm. I liked the review of the Samsung "pause" video feature. That's really handy to have. Rob
Jan 30, 2009 03:07 AM
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FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Thanks Rob,

I do sometimes change the High Color, but it defaults back each time and that is annoying. As for high sharpness I had not played with that. I thought that was a fake software sharpener.

 

I will try the low ISO when an important shot comes up.


Frank

Jan 30, 2009 03:12 AM
Mike Lefebvre
Hallmark Sotheby's International Realty - Medfield, MA

Dude! I am now fully in-love and 100% committed to my v705 that you introduced me to and helped me get cheaply on eBay (sounds like shady some international online dating service, doesn't it?)!!! And now you're telling me this?!?!? The pause button is a sweet feature, but I don't know if I'm ready to drop my v705 like yesterday's news yet. Must check it out further....

Jan 30, 2009 03:15 AM
Brian Lee Burke
Kenna Real Estate - Lone Tree, CO
Broker & Advising Expert-Kenna Luxury Real Estate

Frank - oh great something else to get LOL. Love the pause feature, so might have to check into this. What editing program/software do you use? ~Rita

Jan 30, 2009 05:24 AM
Melissa Marro
Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team - Orange Park, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging
I understand your comments, but from what you are showing above I don't care for the color in the Samsung photos. Based on the above, I seem to prefer the Cannon (although I didn't watch the video - only looked at photos.)
Jan 30, 2009 05:27 AM
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Hey Melissa,

Agreed, the color is better in the Canon. I just checked, and it was on the VIVID color mode. So the question would be after putting it into Photoshop, how does it look. I will upload a color corrected shot.

 

Kenna, you dont need the pause feature if you use video editing software. I use Movie maker and Adobe premiere, but it sucks up HOURS of time, hence the joy of pause!

Jan 30, 2009 06:13 AM
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

You are right Melissa, After trying to correct the color in the Samsung, it doesn't look nearly as good as the Canon. I guess I was focusing on the wide angleness.

Jan 30, 2009 11:49 AM
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

Question:

> > Hi Frank, > > Just a quick question. I do a lot of new construction, hence, no lighting. > Would you suggest this camera? I'm wondering if I take pics on a real sunny > day will it work? I have three other cameras, all various brands & models. > None of them work. Thanks for your help. > >

 

Tough question. These point and shoot cameras have horrible flashes. You might be able to get away with trying to turn OFF the flash or putting it in Fill flash mode (less flash, but also a longer exposure) and put it on a tripod. If you want to stay away from the $1000 SLR bigger cameras, you might like the P880 Kodak which is a larger "point and shoot" that has a much better lens for low light and a bigger flash. I saw it on ebay being liquidated.


Frank

Jan 30, 2009 12:30 PM
Debi Braulik
www.roundrealestate.com - Maple Valley, WA
Selling Maple Valley to Fife WA Homes For Sale

Frank good to know there is a substitute for my beloved v705. Ever since a few days before Christmas it fails to power up. I'm trying to decide if I should send it in to Kodak to have them repair it. I'll have to look into the Samsung. Thanks!

Feb 08, 2009 04:03 PM
Mobile Austin Notary
Apostille/Authentication/Embassy Legalization, Notary Public, Loan Signing Agent & Process Server Services - Austin, TX
www.mobileaustinnotary.com

I like the pictures the v570 took. Butterfly

Feb 16, 2009 07:03 PM
Nicky Dou
Collier & Associates - Fayetteville, AR
The BEST REAL ESTATE AGENT in Northwest Arkansas
So what is your favorite camera overall? I just have a Sony Cyber-shot and thinking about upgrading. thanks!
Feb 18, 2009 02:43 PM
FRANK LL0SA Esq.- Northern Virginia Broker .:. FranklyRealty.com
Northern Virginia Homes - FRANKLY REAL ESTATE Inc - Arlington, VA

"Overall" there is no overall. Depends what you want.

 

Travel= Canon

Video= Samsung

Photos= Kodak

Feb 19, 2009 02:31 AM
Ton A. Ali
CORNERSTONE GROUP REALTORS - Louisville, KY
Realtor - Broker ABR, Eco Broker Certified

Great info.  I have been looking for a Wide Angle camera.  I have only found the Kodaks; now I have options.  Thanks.

Feb 26, 2009 10:06 PM
Mike Perron
RE/MAX Advanced Realty Indianapolis, IN - Indianapolis, IN

I just recently switched to the Samsung HZ10W from the Kodak V570 and I am impressed (so are my clients) to say the least.  The Kodak's LCD broke (again) and since other point and shoot wide angles have been hitting the market lately I decided to take the leap.

The 24mm Samsung's photo quality, features, and sharpness are great.  The pause and resume function when shooting in video mode is stellar as Frank illustrated.  You can shoot in auto mode and get good quality shots or set it to manual and tweak with the settings just like a high dollar SLR.  Additionally, it doesn't feel fragile like the Kodak and appears to be built very solid.

If you're not planning on investing $1k plus into a SLR anytime soon the Samsung HZ10W is the way to go.

Two BIG thumbs up! 

Apr 28, 2009 10:58 AM
Janet Rushford
Chevy Chase, MD

Very helpful info.  Is there an ebay vendor that you would recommend?

Aug 26, 2009 04:54 AM
Anonymous
Frank

Nope, there aren't enough to be selective about sellers.

 

Also newsflash, Canon is coming out with an ultrasharp 24mm! best of all worlds (except for price)

Aug 26, 2009 04:31 PM
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Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Thanks for all the time taking, posting, comparing cameras to save all of us time. (hi five slap sound) Frankly, you're the man.

Sep 11, 2009 08:22 AM