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LOWBALL OFFERS...

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Real Estate Agent with Coldwell Banker Residential

Can an offer be so low that it is offensive?

I received an offer on one of my listings last night.  A real nice two bedroom condo near Naperville's train station and downtown.

The condo is beautiful.  It shows great.  We've only been on the market 19 days...

Anyway, we received the offer last night.  They bid $200k.  We are asking $325K...

I must say I was surprised.  In my three years as an agent, I haven't had an offer near this low.

Does this seem odd?

It seems strange to me...

We will sell this home.  But not for 62% of our asking price after only 19 days on the market. 

I guess this may be a starting point.  But even if we split the difference...

So, what do you think?

How low is too low?

Ken

A Realtor you can trust. 

 

Comments(82)

Jeff Payne
The Payne Group at Keller Williams Success Realty - Panama City, FL
Panama City Real Estate

I would tell the sellers to not take it personal, you can't blame the buyer for trying but I would ALWAYS encourage a counter offer from the seller.  maybe the buyer just needs to see the sellers motivation.

Mar 18, 2009 05:52 AM
Kathy Carson
Lynchburg eXp - Lynchburg, VA
Realtor, Lynchburg, VA, VA Homes - Lynchunberg,Bedford, Campbell

Ken - don't know your market but if you priced it correctly then I would use your MLS list to sold price percentage to guage the offer - sounds way to low to me but what do I know I'm just a REALTOR!

Kathy Carson - RE/MAX 1st Olympic - Lynchburg, VA

Mar 18, 2009 06:13 AM
Irene Tron
Valparaiso, IN

I sure would not blame the seller for being offended and not responding to the offer.  Unbelievable!

Mar 18, 2009 06:30 AM
Ken Tracy
Coldwell Banker Residential - Naperville, IL
Helping clients buy and sell since 2005

Hi Irene, Kathy, Jeff, Diane, Andrew (Welcome to the founder of RealSpaceTours!), JR, Robert, Gwen, Barbara, Claude, Jerry, Eric, Terry and Karen!!!!  Thanks for stopping by...

:)

Really love the response!

Good conversation.  We have countered (I always do).  My seller took it better than expected...

Anyway, thanks again.

Ken

Mar 18, 2009 06:41 AM
Anonymous
Andrea

All offers should be taken for what they are - the ultimate buying signal.  Any offer, even a low ball offer, means that the buyer is interested and has jumped over that hurdle of  "just looking."  Good job on presenting it to your client and countering!  That is the only way to make sales in this market. 

 

http://andrea-realestaterollercoaster.blogspot.com/

Mar 18, 2009 06:57 AM
#70
Gabrielle Kamahele Rhind
KGC Properties LLC, Tucson Property Management & Real Estate - Tucson, AZ
Broker/Owner

HI KEN!  Just been following the thread -- great stuff!  I am in the habit these days of telling Sellers as long as the offer isn't a request to "quit claim" the home - we can work with it.  Adds a little humor to something that can be insulting. Good luck! -- Gabrielle

Mar 18, 2009 07:00 AM
Shantée Haynes
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices PenFed Realty - Washington, DC
Helping the DMV On The Move...

Something over 200 grand below asking might even come off offensive to me. If it were the only offer at the time, and considering how long this listing had been on the market, it would simply be noted to the seller "The only way to keep the negotiating going is to respond"....respond doesn't necessarily mean yes. Most buyers in this current market know that they are going to have to list price their homes A BIT below it's actual value in the first place, so even if there is a little "negotiation ping pong" going, there is SOMETHING negotiable that the seller would more than likely accept if it's not the full asking price. Even though the potential buyer is opening up pretty low, as long as they are willing to continue going "across the net" with the seller, I would imagine there is something acceptable that could be reached.

Mar 18, 2009 07:53 AM
Anonymous
Sue Bridges


The way I handle this situation with my sellers is tell them not to "Kill" the messenger.  I am only doing my job by presenting them the offer and tell them the different ways we can handle it.  It works for me anyway.  It takes the pressure off of me and it makes them feel more in control of the situation.

Mar 18, 2009 08:35 AM
#73
Dave Werth
WERTH REALTY - Fargo, ND
FULL TIME REALTOR

Looks like you got some heads spinning.  Especially yours!  Keep it together is the ultimate for you and your clients.  I don't think a low ball offer is a bad thing.  Only a message sending one thing out, negotiations.  Ok so you got hit below the belt, big deal.  Counter with a higher offer than your listing price if your clients were insulted, if you want to insult back.  But, keep in mind, your LCDORA and keep your personal feelings aside, and get the job done!  I have seen really low, and I have seen really ugly low.  But put yourself in both shoes, and sit back, and think????

I always tell my sellers, if one comes in, that means I am doing my job to make the property noticeable which makes them think I am doing my job and makes me feel good.  Time will only tell.  In the market we vs. you is impossible to judge, but the repo hunters are out, and will be for a while, and you can't neglect there patience of trying, but your patience of being a great agent is the key.  Relay the messages without your personal feelings as you know the CMA and you know what you would buy there property for, so I am sure your offer would be lower than the CMA you gave them which could also be insulting.  But, its there ultimate decision and your job to get it done.  So good luck on this one, and patience is vertue and you will prevale!

Mar 18, 2009 08:43 AM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

An offer is just an offer.  Respond to all of them and see where they lead.  Sometimes they lead to a sale and other times the trash bin but at least everyone is clear where the deal stands at the end.

Mar 18, 2009 09:10 AM
JL Boney, III
Coldwell Banker - Columbia, SC
Columbia, SC Real Estate

I have certainly seen some low ball offers, but I would have to say that I have not come across one like that just yet. Of course, I would counter the offer, but I believe that one may be asking a bit much.

Mar 18, 2009 10:31 AM
Anonymous
Dolores Jonusas

Hi, Ken,

Welcome to the wacky world of real estate where anything can happen and usually does!  I work mostly with buyers and I feel it is the agent's job to educate them about the market by showing them the appropriate comps.  Unfortunately, sometimes buyers have blinders and ear plugs when it comes to making an offer and, ultimately, we have no choice, but to present a rediculous offer if they insist.

While we cannot control what the buyers do, we can certainly control how we handle an insulting offer.  It might have been a little more palatable if the Buyer's agent had contacted you to explain why such a low offer was coming your way.  Etiquette in handling the transactions is essential for a good working relationship.

Don't worry, this too shall pass (LOL).

Mar 18, 2009 10:53 AM
#77
Ken Tracy
Coldwell Banker Residential - Naperville, IL
Helping clients buy and sell since 2005

Hi Dolores, JL, Cindy, Dave, Sue, Shantee, Gabrielle, and Andrea.  Thanks for reading.

More great comments.  Some better than my post!!

Thanks everyone.

Ken

Mar 18, 2009 11:05 AM
Regina P. Brown
MBA Broker Consultants - Carlsbad, CA
M.B.A., Broker, Instructor

Ken, you should call the buyer's agent and say, "We acknowledge that we received your offer and our seller will not be responding to the offer, for obvious reasons." while you chuckle into the phone.  He'll get the hint.

Join my new AR group and post your blog at http://activerain.com/groups/virtualoffice

Regina P. Brown

Mar 18, 2009 03:50 PM
Lee Ali
Las Americas Real Estate - Fairfield, CT

Ken,

Is this your listing? http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/charts/69072541_zpid,5years_chartDuration/

If it is then please note that although unemployment seems to be low http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=60563 , zip code 60563 is seriously trending down.

The following condo seems to be in the same complex.

how does this listing compare to yours? http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/charts/69072545_zpid,5years_chartDuration/

It is 99 square feet smaller and was sold for $269,000 on 11/26/2008.

Your seller may be upset that their condo had hit $400,000 between 2004 and 2007, but my clients are having no difficulty buying properties at the prices where they were between 1998-2002.

I have been using the phrase, "Unfortunatley, this is 2009, NOT 2005" alot with sellers and seller agents lately. You might want to do the same. :)

Good luck with the property, though. I commend your fiduciary efforts on behalf of your client. That is exactly what an agent should be doing. However, based on the way the market is, if it sells for more than $250,000 then I will assume that housing is coming back up, and will donate $10 to your favorite charity.

Lee Ali

BankFreeInvesting.com/blog

Lee Ali is the author of "Crowdfunding: The Solution to Eliminate Booms and Busts in Real Estate Forever!"

PS: This post was NOT written to insult anyone AT ALL. :)

Mar 18, 2009 04:38 PM
Ken Tracy
Coldwell Banker Residential - Naperville, IL
Helping clients buy and sell since 2005

Hi Regina and Lee.  Thanks for reading.

Boy Lee, you did a little work on this one.

Yes it is my listing.  My listing is a corner unit, and bigger.  More upgrades.

I am feeling pretty good.

Thanks again!

Ken

Mar 19, 2009 02:04 AM
Lee Ali
Las Americas Real Estate - Fairfield, CT

Ken, thank you for your kind comments.

My research team does this kind of research for our clients all day long with properties across the nation.

Like everyone else we would like to see prices come back up BUT we are not going to pay high if we can get them at lower prices.

Good luck with everything. I hope that a nice price sale does materialize for your seller.

Lee

Mar 19, 2009 04:56 AM
David Timm
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Fort Collins, CO
CRS, EcoBroker, GRI, ABR

Since we have to present the offers, its OK.  Hopefully your sellers will choose to laugh instead of a different emotion. 

I would imagine that some day you will write a low offer because your client wants you too, and they might get it.

Peace,

David

Mar 20, 2009 02:36 PM
Anonymous
Thomas

I don't see how a low ball offer can be insulting. It's just a number, the seller could always counter. No one's forcing the seller to agree to the low ball offer. You guys are just concerned about your commission. You owe your customers your fiduciary duties and the buyers agent is doing just that.

That agent should be commended for being loyal and submitting the offer even though it's low and he/she probably knows it won't fly. It is a buyers market right now and without buyers, everyone will be hitting up the local soup lines. Stop treating buyers like worthless sheep throwing numbers around just to piss you guys off. If you don't like it, find another job.

I wonder if you would do the same thing if that was your buyer?

 

 

Aug 07, 2009 08:46 AM
#84
Ken Tracy
Coldwell Banker Residential - Naperville, IL
Helping clients buy and sell since 2005

Hi Lee, David and Thomas.  Thanks for stopping in.

Thomas, I am confused about your hostility...

Seems like a fair discussion.  I don't think we look at buyers as sheep.

It was a surpisingly low offer for a newly listed home.

Ken

Aug 07, 2009 08:53 AM