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Can I Steal This Home!

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Real Estate Agent with Keller Williams Properties Weston, FL

OK, So a long time friend of mine who wants to move from Long Island, New York to Fort Myers, Florida. He calls me tonight to get some information on 2 homes. I give him the information on the two homes he is inquiring about. Now he was in Fort Myers about a week ago, and drove by these homes. He wanted to know what the original owner paid for the homes back in the late 90's. I tell him they paid about $185,000 back in 1999, I believe. Anyway, he proceeds to tell me that he is going to move there in about a year to a year and a half. I said to him, so why are you bothering me now to look up information on these homes, they won't be on the market by the time you get here. Well in his mind, he thinks they will be, I laughed at him. I said I doubt it, and if they are the market will be different market at that point. Well to cut to the chase, he says to me I am going to offer $150K, they are listed for $265K. He tells me he has all cash and wants to steal one of the two homes. Again I laughed, I asked my friend are these homes in a bad area, he says no ( I am on the East Coast of FL.)  I ask him are the homes in need of repair, he says no. They are in a great area and are in move in condition. Then I asked him, what makes him think they will take his offer. Well he says I am doing the bank a favor by giving then this offer, the bank is hurting so bad they will jump at this. Again I laugh, I said what makes you think the bank is hurting so bad they would take your offer. I told him if the bank is hurting so bad they can reduce the house way below market value and they will have a line of people/investors to purchase the home. I told the bank is going to look at fair market value. The bank is not going to just drop there price that low, in most cases, because you are offering all cash. He then says, well I never thought about that. He then tells me he wants a good deal, so I ask him what his is plan. How much are you going to offer below fair market value for a purchase to be a good deal to you? Then the truth comes out, he can only afford $150K for a house, so in his mine that would be a good deal. I told him you wasted enough of my time, and hung up the phone. Now, I have bought homes under value, but I had a plan and no emotional tie to the out come, it was strictly business. It amazes me how people think they can make such low ball offers on property where there is no incentive for the owner/bank to drop prices to a ridiculus number.  Now, how many times in a week do some of you hear this similar story, either by a client or someone you run into. I always respond to people like this with. OK, we are going to line up 100 homes and make low ball offers on each one to see if anyone bites. They usually back away once they hear that. I think the offers on 100 homes scares them. Well, just my little rant for today.

 

 

Dean Moss
Dean's Team - Keller Williams Realty Partners Chicago IL - Chicago, IL
Dean's Team Chicago IL Real Estate Team

John -

These days, it truly is tough to know what a bank, or an owner, will accept on a home.

As a Real Estate Practitioner, your duty is to encourage a realistic offer.  But, sometimes - low offers get accepted.

I guess we have to be more flexible than before, perhaps!

DEAN & DEAN'S TEAM CHICAGO

Mar 22, 2009 05:55 PM
Pacita Dimacali
Alain Pinel - Oakland, CA
Alameda/Contra Costa Counties CA

Is that guy still a friend?

I have a potential client who also almost always wants to low ball his offers. The ones that I know about, he didn't get. But he must be successful enough in that he owns over 30 residential income properties. Maybe this is how he became successful.

He tells me he is ready to buy, he has the cash, he can close in a day. Well and good....but we've got to find a property owner who will accept what he wants to offer.

The last time I showed him two houses on on lot that was listed at $699k, he wanted to write an offer for $500K. I called the listing agent who told me to tell him to "fly a kite."

 

Mar 22, 2009 07:26 PM
Wendy Welborne-Kimery
Keller Williams-Lake Norman Mooresville,NC - Mooresville, NC

We have the same thing going on in the Lake Norman and Charlotte market.  There are great deals being made but not half of what the list price is (after it has already been reduced by $75,000).  It does get frustrating at times.

Mar 22, 2009 11:05 PM
John Palmisano
Keller Williams Properties Weston, FL - Weston, FL

HI Dean, Yes I agree 100%. My friend only had money for a hamburger but wanted a steak dinner.

 

Pacita, Did you ask him what he based his offering price on, or did he pick a number out of thin air? I have bo issue with a lowball offer, if you can justify why you are offering that price. My friend's offer was because he only had $150K. Yes, we are still friends I know him since 2nd grade, about 40 years now.

 

Hi Wendy, again people with no clue. Real Estate is in fire sale mode. Offer what ever you want. People/banks will be happy to get anything, is the mentality I am seeing.

Thank you everyone for your post's 

Mar 23, 2009 12:35 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

John - I've spoken about the "lowball offer" before.  I don't care about them like some agents do (some despise them).  I don't mind at all.  What I do mind is that people have become trained to be unrealistic and then are disappointed later.  In FL there are plenty of great priced homes on the market thanks to the problems of foreclosure...here in San Antonio, its not as big of a difficulty, so there are less of those "deals" you hear about.  That doesn't stop people from looking for them and thinking that every seller is desperate.  I hope that eventually we'll move away from this bargain hunting mindset and get back to what a home is worth market-wise and what a home is worth to the potential buyer.

Mar 23, 2009 04:08 AM
John Palmisano
Keller Williams Properties Weston, FL - Weston, FL

Matt,

    I agree with you 100%. You took the words right out of my mouth.  

Mar 23, 2009 06:47 AM
Linda Jandura
Raleigh Cary Realty - Apex, NC
Realtor, North Carolina Buyer & Seller Specialist

It seems that the "buyers" from Long Island are the  ones that think they can steal a house down here. We start out right away by telling them that they aren't "going to come down here and steal a mansion from a hillbilly". It's an attitude thing- have to get a deal.  If they insist on going that way and not listen to our advise, I'd rather not waste my time.

Apr 09, 2009 01:16 AM
John Palmisano
Keller Williams Properties Weston, FL - Weston, FL

Hi Linda, well myself being from Long Island Originally, I can understand your frustration. This should be easy, just point out the fact that what they are getting for their money in the Carolina's, is already a deal. I get the same thing down here in Florida, the only difference is that I know how to push their buttons, and then I tell them I am also from New York, that usually settles them down. The only thing I can tell you is that New Yorker's will be loyal to you, if they feel you can do a good job. They will refer their family and friends. I hope this helps.

Apr 09, 2009 01:42 PM