Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Bob Crane
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Probably are no rules for this particular situation, but once you ask them they will find a way to sell you a few dozen permits and make this home much more expensive than new one.

Jun 20, 2017 09:20 AM
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Eve Alexander
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Yes, yes and yes, it will be a nightmare...

One time we dealt with the EPA just to build an oversized dock on a lake.  It took 2 years just to get EPA permission.  After we jumped through their hoops we had to pay $350 a year to lease the water from them.

Eve

Jun 20, 2017 09:49 AM
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Nina Hollander
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That's a new one on me, Fred. I've never dealt with moving a house. Will watch for other responses.

Jun 20, 2017 09:21 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
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Oh wow. I agree with Debbie. Moving that house risks bothering the siding, even if it's encapsulated standing still. Go to a remediation company more up on the finer points. Whoever's going to be actually moving the house should have some ideas as well.

Jun 20, 2017 10:31 AM
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Fred,

We have dealt with EPA, and it is a nightmare.  I think Bob Crane gave you good advice.  A

Jun 20, 2017 10:31 AM
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Barbara Todaro
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whether you move it or tear it down, it's a nightmare with the EPA.... 

Jun 20, 2017 10:09 AM
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Fred I think by moving the house it will disturb the absestos and you sure don't want any lawsuits after the fact by not addressing it up front.  Perhaps your broker or legal hotline attorney can guide you.

Jun 20, 2017 05:23 PM
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Lynnea Miller
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Bob Crane has excellent advice here.

Jun 20, 2017 12:48 PM
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Lyn Sims
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You  know all the bets are off because you are moving it I bet. What will your city think about it? Hard to encapsulate that big of an item. Hard not to 'disturb' the siding since you are ripping it off it's foundation.

Great question Fred.

Jun 20, 2017 11:51 AM
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Jun 20, 2017 11:17 AM
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If it's being moved on the same property, I'd guess that you can move it with minimal hassle and just precautionary wraps.  If you have to go on a public road, that would be a whole other issue and would likely need the siding to be wrapped at least and probably some permits and such that the movers would be best to know about.

 

Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the enviro laws in your state.

Jun 20, 2017 11:07 AM
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Paul Antonelli
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Ive moved from a house before but never took the house with me.

Jun 21, 2017 01:30 AM
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That's a good question Fred, I would have to research. 

Jun 20, 2017 09:37 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
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I am channeling Nina Hollander again ... or shall I say ... still?  Looks like you have some good responses here ... I am of no help 

Jun 20, 2017 06:12 PM
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Caroline Gerardo
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The asbestos NESHAP regulations specify work practices for asbestos to be followed during demolitions and renovations of all structures, installations, and buildings (excluding residential buildings that have four or fewer dwelling units). The regulations require the owner of the building or the operator to notify the appropriate state agency before any demolition, or before any renovations of buildings that could contain a certain threshold amount of asbestos or asbestos-containing material. In addition, particular manufacturing and fabricating operations either cannot emit visible emissions into the outside air or must follow air cleaning procedures, as well as follow certain requirements when removing asbestos-containing waste.

Docket ID: OAR–2002–0082, FRL–7561–2

Moving the house makes the asbestos VOLATILE.  It's single family, that's a bit easier. Those grey tiles on the facade are the problem. workers must wear full suit, ventilated masks and this cannot be dumped in a regualr landfill. The dumping is expensive.  I believe it would be cost effective to remove the siding before you move the house. Get a bid for removing the siding seperate from cutting the house up and getting all the permits to go under power lines.  WHY move this house - is it historic in some way? Demolition after removing siding with licensed crew would be where I would start. This decision should be made by the owner. I assume the city and county know about the asbestos and have some flag to permits.  You are right to not give address out as wheels start spinning dollars  

Jun 20, 2017 04:18 PM
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Mary Yonkers
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Your photo looks like the 1950's cottages along the Allegheny River that I remember from childhood.  No AC just throw up the shutters and let the cool river breeze blow in. 

Sorry, I can't solve your asbestos issue.

Jun 20, 2017 12:59 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
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New for me but curious about what others with experience might say. The less bureaucracy the better, no doubt!

Jun 20, 2017 11:35 AM
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I am not an environmental engineer, nor have any experience with the EPA, so I suggest contacting a trusted PE who might give you some direction on this issue. My take on this is if the siding is intact and not compromised, the asbestos is still encapsulated and is not a hazard.

Jun 20, 2017 11:22 AM
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Will Hamm
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Good question on this subject, never ran across this one.

 

Jun 20, 2017 10:25 AM
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Debbie Gartner
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How do you know it's asbestos?  Was it tested?  If so, then it's been reported.

Why don't you call an asbestos TESTING company to try to get info (not an asbestos company who obviously has a vested interest).  Also, you could try calling an air quality testing place.  (these companies are supposed to be indendent...I stress supposed to be). At least they would know more than us.  I just know about asbestos as it relates to floors and I know for sure you can't tell if it's asbestos until after it's tested.  You can generally tell the odds.  And, I have had a few times where I surprised that test turned out negative.  (but majority maybe 90% positive).

By the way, I would be surprised if anyone could move it and drive it wo/ having any siding break.

Jun 20, 2017 09:55 AM
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I don't track the laws in your country.  However, I understand that many of the laws and regulations have been or are in the process of being eliminated by your government so you will want to verify whether such laws and regulations have been repealed or changed

Jun 20, 2017 09:50 AM
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Wayne Martin
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Wow, a big dilemma for you. Given the nature of the sideing and possibility of cracking in a move, think you may need the space suits! Good luck!

Jun 20, 2017 09:41 AM
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Whatever you do, be advised you make it public information. Go from there

Jun 20, 2017 09:38 AM
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Blog about what you decide to do.

Jun 20, 2017 09:38 AM
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Kasey & John Boles
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This is definitely something I have no experience or advice in, but I am really interested to find out what you discover and end up doing.  We have sold a couple of homes that have been moved but buyers purchased after the move was completed, and we have one buyer who has for years wanted to find an old historic home to move, but thus far they haven't pulled the trigger, and that is all seperate than the asbestos issue. Let us know how it turns out! -Kasey

Jun 22, 2017 10:54 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
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Some of the "remedies" call for not disturbing the asbestos and it remains safe that way.  If the move can be done without agitating what's been in place for a long time, it is safer than trying to remove the asbestos and that would be costly too.

Jun 21, 2017 11:54 AM
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Interesting question.  I've never been involved in a transaction or situation where a house has been "moved" with/without possible EPA implications. Parked and reading.  

Jun 21, 2017 05:35 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia nailed this one!

Jun 21, 2017 05:30 AM
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Nathan Gesner
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I don't know the answer but it seems you could move it without disturbing the asbestos, therefore you should be fine without special abatement.

Jun 21, 2017 05:21 AM
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Gabe Sanders
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I don't know the answer to this question.

Jun 21, 2017 04:55 AM
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Greg Cremia
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Around here it is the buyer who arranges and pays for moving the house so it is their problem to deal with. Stop asking questions so you won't know. You have to disclose what you know.

Jun 21, 2017 04:13 AM
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Praful Thakkar
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Fred Griffin surely a tricky situation. Are there any good movers who can take care of this?

If no, trash the home....

Jun 20, 2017 10:26 PM
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William Feela
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I wonder if there are restrictions.  I have seen this type of home in my area that were not strip or covered.

Jun 20, 2017 06:43 PM
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Scott Godzyk
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FOr moving it, i am at a loss. Here in NH we do see quite a lot of homes with this siding, and they allow us to cover it and never remove them, that is what it becomes a hazard

Jun 20, 2017 06:14 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
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I would call the codes department and follow their edict. They are the ones in our area we have to please.

Jun 20, 2017 05:55 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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Great question, Fred Griffin - I would think so but, then again, I've never moved a house with asbesos siding. I've had asbestos removed from a tear-down and yes, the men in space suits were involved but, not moving a house. 

I would question what would happen if you or your homeowner didn't notify them...what are the consequences?

You'll definitely have to let us know, Fred!

Jun 20, 2017 03:51 PM