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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

With all the problems found both foreign & domestic, dishwasher solutions are where we focus? Has everyone gone nuts?

May 08, 2023 07:05 PM
Rainmaker
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Richie Alan Naggar sums it up well! And, speaking on behalf of someone who bought an energy saving top of the line dishwasher, it takes 2 hours to cycle and you likely have to wash twice. Where's the savings?

May 09, 2023 03:37 AM
Rainmaker
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

This is totally ridiculous ... silly ... another distraction

May 09, 2023 06:28 AM
Rainmaker
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Eileen Burns
Trans State Commercial RE Ft. Lauderdale/Miami/Palm Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
FLorida Real Estate Connector

I agree with the Captain!  My dishwasher cycle no longer has rinse and hold nor a short cycle.  Everything is an hour or more. 

Dont get me started on the 3 hour self clean process for the oven

 

How about almost every part replaced within first year on my whirlpool french door, no icemaker, refrigerator.  After 5 years I replaced the ice maker for $350. 

There was nothing wrong with the 40 year old Kenmore refrigerator or the other appliances when we did the upgrade.

A throw away society continues to abound

May 09, 2023 06:23 AM
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Anna Banana Kruchten Phoenix Broker
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Ridiculous

May 08, 2023 09:32 PM
Rainmaker
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

These feckin' Nazi grifters! OVER IT!
I'll vote for whoever puts a stop to this nonsense.

May 09, 2023 05:59 AM
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Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

I agree with Richie Alan Naggar  

I like this quote from Thomas Sowel   "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting them in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."

May 09, 2023 09:29 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667, kat@thehousekat.com, Broker/REALTOR® - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Per the EPA, 13% of all greenhouse gases come from residential and commercial applications. Less than half of that is caused by "direct" emissions which includes things like heat, organic waste, water treatment plants, air conditioning and refrigeration emissions. While it's not specifically stated, I suspect less than 1/2 of 1% is probably a result of all appliances including the dreaded gas stoves and now dishwashers. If manufacturers can make dishwashers more efficient, that would be great. But why aren't we focusing on those things that make up the other 99 1/2%?

I mean, look at this chart directly from the EPA...  Electricity is the second biggest cause of greenhouse emissions. Let's make that one bigger! haha

 

May 09, 2023 04:38 AM
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Brian England
Arizona Focus Realty - Gilbert, AZ
MBA, GRI, REALTOR® Real Estate in East Valley AZ

It's funny how government will mandate little things like this, but not address the real problem, haha.

May 09, 2023 07:09 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Estate Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

 

CLIMATE CHANGE MY ASS! 

May 09, 2023 07:25 AM
Rainmaker
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Carla Freund
Keller Williams Preferred Realty - Raleigh, NC
Carolina Life RealEstate & Relocation 919-602-8489

Well he is super busy these days isn't he? It is the plan to revive the economy and increase jobs. Make everyone purchase new dishwashers and replace gas stoves.

May 09, 2023 06:17 AM
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Janice Zaltman
United Realty Group - Boca Raton, FL
Energy Efficient And Eco-Friendly Homes in Florida

If the appliances do their job efficiently and at the same time reduce the monthly utility costs for the property, then yes. But....,am sure our wonderful utility company will come up with a reason to raise their prices to offset their loss of income. 

May 08, 2023 07:09 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The right Charlotte REALTOR!

Isn't it funny how we went from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" when the weather cooled off drastically for several years in a row? 

May 09, 2023 04:08 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
St. George Utah Area Residential Sales Agent

The climate change hoax is nothing but an opportunity to take more money from responsible Americans and shove it into their deep, deep pockets. The biggest threat is misinformation, 24-7 because as we know, lies go much further than the truth!

May 09, 2023 07:19 AM
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J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

I am for progress, but I am not sure if this the place to start that progress...may it is. The longer I live the more I learn I know nothing. I'd love to see some other things become more affordable so more consumers could afford to make the switch.

May 09, 2023 06:54 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I doubt it. It will be what it will be at the end of the day. And hopefully it doesn't end up the way low flush toilets ended up... with people flushing twice.

Plus what Richie Alan Naggar said.

May 09, 2023 03:43 AM
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Diana Zaccaro Broker Associate
Tropical Beachside brokered by eXp - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

Add value and desirability? NO!

 

You would not believe how many people buy new construction or a rehabbed property and the first thing they do is replace all the appliances with new in the style, color, etc. that they prefer. Same with flooring, it is not uncommon to see brand new carpet thrown out because the buyer wanted tile or hardwood.

 

Someone has too much time on their hands to even suggest this. And it wasn't that long ago that Energy Star appliances were developed for energy savings so why do we need this?

 

May 09, 2023 12:45 PM
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Clay R. Seay
Florida Homes Realty & Mortgage - Saint Augustine, FL

The "green agenda " forced on the American Citizen and taxpayer by the politicians is ruining America for generations. The deliberate attempt to destroy the fossil fuel industry, natural gas, coal and oil is crippling the economy. Sooner or later interest rates and policy will reach the local real estate markets. 

May 09, 2023 11:17 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I think a black market will emerge for older dishwashers.  Just like for gas stoves.  I see it already with washing machines, the older ones with the agitators do a far better job than the ones without.

May 09, 2023 09:54 AM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Great, more rules. I actually think that most dishwashers that are newer probably are already eco friendly.

It's not going to make a difference in a sale other than you have to have one.

May 09, 2023 06:07 AM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

Lord, please let my old dishwasher keep on working.  I don't really care how much water or energy it uses, I just want clean dishes.  Amen.

May 09, 2023 11:40 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen.  As tempting as it is, let's please keep this from becoming a political commentary. 

We are walking that line now, and we would prefer not to have to begin censoring, deleting comments, or shutting this thread down.

Thank you.

May 09, 2023 09:01 AM
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Katina Hargrove 352-551-0308
Stake Your Land Realty, Inc. - Eustis, FL
Broker/Owner, GRI,SFR, REALTOR®

I will wash the old fashioned way.

May 09, 2023 08:15 AM
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Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Despite generally liking anything that conserves natural resources, I don't think it will add any value to a house.  It is just a small minor component. 

May 09, 2023 07:41 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

All I can say is it's about freaking time! More efficient dishwashers in the U.S. will surely save the planet.

To answer your question, though... "No". It has a dishwasher. That's what matters.

May 09, 2023 07:26 AM
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Shayne Stone
HomeSmart - Fulshear, TX
"Your Rock Solid Choice Realtor"

Short answer NO... to a Market Value, but a yes to a Feel-Good Value!

 

Like Solar, rain gutters and other items, it only adds Value to those type of Buyers wanting them. And as of today, I have never had a Buyer requesting a house having any of them. 

 

It's like replacing a roof, a lot of Sellers think this should add more Market Value to the house. But it doesn't, but it helps selling the house because it provides a Feel-Good Value. Now, if they replaced a roof from it original to like Spanish Tile, Tin etc. this would add more Market Value because it's not just a replacement / Maintenace it's an Improvement... 

May 09, 2023 07:10 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

I suspect that people will still desire NEW appliances.

May 09, 2023 05:37 AM
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Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
A moving experience!

The article also states that "most dishwashers on the market are already well below the federal standard, with most using 35 gallons per cycle or less". 

So unless I'm misunderstanding (which I readily admit is a possibility) this maybe prove to be another tempest in a teakettle, similar to all of the brouhaha about the banning of gas stoves a little while ago.

May 09, 2023 04:53 AM
Rainmaker
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Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

If you do full loads and not a few items, the bottom line savings and health benefits increase. But like showers, does Suzie or Joey camp out in there or did someone add a carwash token dispenser or install a smaller water heater that runs out of hot water to speed up the process Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate ?

May 09, 2023 02:57 AM
Rainmaker
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Margaret Goss
@Properties - Winnetka, IL
Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate

There are always ways to get around these rules. My brother lives in Los Angeles and wanted to replace his showerhead. He wanted the exact same one but it couldn't be shipped to him from Amazon because it wasn't a "water saver faucet," and thus, against California laws.

So I bought it and mailed it to him.

May 10, 2023 06:33 AM
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Don Baker
Lane Realty - Eatonton, GA
Lake Sinclair Specialist

probably not because how many times will you have to run it to clean the dishes?

May 09, 2023 11:34 AM
Rainer
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Caroline Gerardo
Licensed in 20 states - Newport Beach, CA
C. G. Barbeau the Loan Lady nmls 324982

Unplugging my dishwasher.

May 10, 2023 11:43 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Good question and interesting reading all the answer you receive on this one.

Time will tell.

 

May 10, 2023 09:13 AM
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David Popoff
DMK Real Estate - Darien, CT
Realtor®,SRS, Green ~ Fairfield County, Ct

Most higher end dishwashers already do this with EnergyStar program

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/guide_to_home_water_efficiency.pdf

 

May 10, 2023 07:36 AM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

I think it is not got for  real estate and the USA is probably one of the cleanest countries in the world with regard to pollution & climate issues

May 11, 2023 07:28 AM
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Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
Tropic Shores Realty - Ich spreche Deutsch! - Spring Hill, FL
Florida Waterfront and Country Club Living

It's a joke and we are being had. If you require a lightbulb to provide only half the light, how many lightbulbs will you use?  This may be a bad example since there don't seem to be too many lightbulbs left in government so here is another example: just spent a few days away traveling and observed that all those water saving self flushing toilets are happily flushing away two or three times per use for not reason. Seems a greater waste of good water than the old style commodes. It'll be the same with this new proposal.

May 12, 2023 04:05 AM
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Frank Rubi
Frank Rubi Real Estate, LLC - Metairie, LA
FrankRubiRealEstate.com

I don't see it or believe anything these people say. 

May 11, 2023 10:16 AM
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Tony Lewis
Summit Real Estate Group - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Group Valencia & Aliso Viejo

The law of supply and demand in a given location dictate the number of sales and property value.  

May 27, 2023 03:14 PM
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