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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Getting Google verified will not stop those calls.  Why pay for Google verification if it does not solve the problem? 

Jul 04, 2025 06:56 AM
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Richard (richie) Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

How many "block" maneuvers does a person have to put up with on their own personal phone? Its outrageous! Bob Crane ...nuisance comes to mind

Jul 04, 2025 06:00 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
eXp Commercial, Referral Divison - Kalispell, MT
Helping your Montana dreams take root

Unfortunately I do not know but will be watching the answers in case someone does. I'm tired of those as well.

Jul 04, 2025 04:41 AM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, CFSP
Big Block LPT Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
Coastal San Diego, Veteran's & Retirees Services

I just block and report spam with one simple step on my iPhone.
Sign of the times Bob Crane 
I figure by the time I'm retired, only 12 people will be able to get through on my phone as my blocked number list out  numbers my contacts at this point 😂 

Jul 04, 2025 09:04 AM
Rainmaker
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Bob Crane - you are correct. There are so many exceptions to being held liable for violating DNC rules that many unsavory individuals purchase the DNC list as a source of numbers to call. 

Jul 04, 2025 05:58 AM
Rainmaker
639,254
Wendy Rulnick
Rulnick Realty, Inc. - Destin, FL
"It's Wendy... It's Sold!"

For scammers in general - all caps as the caller ID is a clue that it's fake. I will not answer likely spam/scam calls.   If it's a real customer - they will leave a message. Also, we use FOREWARN app to check numbers.  A lot of times they do use a real "deceased" person' phone number - another clue.

Jul 04, 2025 08:28 AM
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Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home again, home again...

I wish I did, Bob.  They seem to come in waves.  Unfortunately, just because of the business that we're in, it's hard to ignore "unknown" phone calls. Tempting, but hard.

Jul 04, 2025 04:56 AM
Rainmaker
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Peter Mohylsky
Property Management International-Destin - Sandestin, FL
Call me at 850-517-7098

No clue to that problem and it is a problem.  

Jul 04, 2025 04:48 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I'm with Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, CFSP on this one.  Block & Report via the one button on my Android phone.  Most of the time the numbers being spoofed are out of the area numbers so who cares.  My block list is huuuge, bigger than the Beatles and Elvis combined!

Jul 04, 2025 05:16 PM
Rainmaker
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

If a call shows up on my cell and it is not in my contact list, I do not answer. If it is someone that I want to talk to, they will leave a message. No message...I block the number. 

I get at least a dozen spam calls daily. SO ANNOYING!

Jul 04, 2025 09:54 AM
Rainer
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J.R. Schloemer
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

That is the $1,000,000 question...and ANSWER there Bob Crane. I could stop doing just about everything if I could figure out the answer to that question and sell it to sales person in the country.

Jul 04, 2025 09:42 AM
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Don Baker
Lane Realty - Eatonton, GA
Lake Sinclair Specialist

My wife took two weeks and "played with them" by chatting for  half an hour and then saying  "no, I'm afraid not"  Pretty much stopped them.

Jul 05, 2025 08:28 AM
Rainmaker
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

I wish I knew. I have the same problem with calls, texts, emails. Some day I get two to three calls an hour.

Jul 05, 2025 04:02 AM
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Tony Lewis
Summit Real Estate Group - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Group Valencia & Aliso Viejo

Don't answer the call, block, send to spam.  Rinse and Repeat.

Jul 08, 2025 02:42 PM
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Lew Corcoran
Better Living Real Estate, LLC - East Bridgewater, MA
Expert guidance. Exceptional results.

I understand how frustrating it is to deal with relentless scam calls, especially when spoofed numbers and changing tactics make blocking ineffective. You're right—many of these systems and regulations, like the FCC’s Do Not Call list, often feel like they’re just paper tigers that scammers ignore. The phone companies' approaches to labeling potential spam callers as 'potential spam' instead of 'spam' often fall short. It’s also true that spam callers often use Gmail addresses and other tricks to bypass verification and filtering systems, making it even harder to stop them.

 

I have my spam blocker set to 'allow only those calls from people who are in my data base and block all others, and do not send them to voicemail. And it doesn't work. They get through. Every time. And it's because the phone carriers prioritize lining their pocket books over security or care for the customer. Why? The bottomline is it's because they simply don't care.

 

It’s true that spam callers use spoofing and other tricks to bypass verification and filtering systems, making it even harder to stop them. There has to be a very serious enforcement by the FCC—such as imposing real and very hefty penalties against the phone carriers—and so harsh (i.e., take 50% of their annual gross income) that they will have no choice but to act. The phone carriers have to be strong-armed by the FCC into implementing more aggressive and automatic blocking of illegitimate numbers. And until that happens, these calls and texts will keep coming.

 

I don't answer calls from unknown callers. I found that if they are legitimate, they'll leave a message. If they don't leave a message, then in my book it's a spammer and I block them. Unfortunately, these scammers are quick to change numbers or drop last digits, which makes complete blocking difficult.

 

In the meantime, consider these additional steps:

 

- Use reputable third-party call blocking apps that use community reports to identify and block spam callers more effectively.

- Register your number with the FCC’s Robocall Mitigation efforts if available (See https://www.fcc.gov/spoofed-robocalls

- Report persistent spam calls to the FCC and your carrier, emphasizing the nuisance and potential fraud.

- Be cautious with any links or requests from suspicious callers—never give out personal info.

 

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Ultimately, until there’s stronger regulatory action and technological solutions, these calls will persist. It’s a widespread problem that requires coordinated efforts beyond individual measures.

Further, It would seem to me that those who get caught by the FCC should be made an example of. When they are prosecuted and found guilty, the courts should, among other forms of punishment including very hefty fines and jail time, permanently bar these people from ever using, either directly or indirectly, any phone, computer, and any and all other means of communications. And if caught again, to jail them for life.

 

Hang in there, and keep blocking and reporting as much as possible—sometimes persistence is our best defense.

Jul 05, 2025 12:34 PM
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Katina Hargrove 352-551-0308
Stake Your Land Realty, Inc. - Eustis, FL
Broker/Owner, SFR®, e-PRO®, GRI, AHWD, REALTOR®

Bob Crane 

DNC shut its doors about 100 years ago, lol A real customer will leave a message. Just like Wendy Rulnick I use FOREWARN. Reporting and blocking does not work, it is a joke, but I still continue to report, mark as spam and block. 

Jul 05, 2025 06:42 AM