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What's the real story with foreclosures and this economy?

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I keep hearing a lot of positive spin coming from the media about the state of the economy, the real estate market, consumer confidence, etc. Call me jaded, but I'm not convinced.

It seems to me that there's a lot of play in the system and engineered flaws in the way the information is presented to us, the public. What I mean is that I think the government is smart enough to be able to manipulate our impression of a system most of us don't understand (gasp!).

Although real estate indicators have been positive recently, there's still a lot of negative fundamentals. Foreclosures continue to be a huge problem and they're not slowing down. Unemployment continues to threaten to extend this problem. Commercial market defaults are on the horizon.

From what I read from Realtors' blogs here on ActiveRain, banks are not exactly being cooperative when it comes to negotiating short sales and acting on offers that actually make sense. One explanation for this is that if a lender agrees to a short sale, they actually have to report a mark down on that asset. They have to admit that the home isn't as valuable as they have it marked on their books. All banks are massively leveraged. Most have borrowed 25 to 30 times their actual net worth. Many are leveraged even higher. If these banks were forced to admit the real value of their assets according to market conditions on a massive scale, they might very well reveal themselves to be insolvent.

As an example lets run some dummy numbers. XYZ bank has liquid assets of 10 million dollars. XYZ has borrowed 250 million dollars against their liquid assets thereby leveraging themselves 25 to 1. Let's say XYZ bank took only 50% of the money they borrowed against their liquid assets and lent it out in the form of mortgages or more accurately invested in mortgage backed securities (that would be 125 million dollars worth of mortgages). For the sake of simplicity, if the value of that 125 million dropped by 10%, that would be a reduction of 12.5 million. That would leave XYZ bank in the red to the tune of 2.5 million dollars and XYZ would be shuttered by the FDIC.

Nationally how much has real estate declined? More than 10%. How much capacity does the FDIC have to protect depositors?

I figured I would share this video and see what you guys think of the market. Have we hit a bottom of fundamentals or a false bottom? I'm interested to see what your perspective is.



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Edward & Celia Maddox
The Celtic Connection Realty - Queen Creek, AZ
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A lot of the mis-information is casued by our pro liberal news media of ABC,NBC, and CBS.  The fail to give us the news, just their biased liberal opinion.  The economy has a long way before recovery, and if the goverment doesn't quick running the printing press at warp speed, we are in for a very difficult time ahead.

Sep 10, 2009 09:45 AM
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Ed & Celia - I think both conservative and liberal media are not getting the story right.  I don't blame it on politics, I think it's either ignorance or the potential risk to their huge conglomerate parent companies who have too much skin in the game.  Do you think TimeWarner, Fox, and Viacom aren't tied to these banks?  Think again!  I'm glad we agree on the economy.  Thanks for your comments! 

Sep 10, 2009 11:18 AM
John Rakoci
Eagle Realty - North Myrtle Beach, SC
North Myrtle Beach Coastal Carolinas

Who owns the banks? Why a tax cheat Treasury Secretary. Has the media been politically honest for years? Could there be a miracle recovery about election time?

Sep 10, 2009 12:03 PM
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John - You make some good points.  If these banks fail, the Govt. looses big time on their wall street bail-out.  But I'm wondering what is inevitable at this point.  The American consumer seems to have hit a wall.  There's no way to get any more spending out of this society right now.  Spending is what the system is counting on to pull us out of this ditch.  Since the American consumer can't borrow to spend, the Govt. has decided to step in and do it in our behalf.

It seems like trying to build a house of cards in a windstorm.

Just to let everyone know, I'm a socially liberal.  I voted for Obama.  I like him.  But I'm not an idiot when it comes to finance and what I see has me worried.

Sep 10, 2009 12:10 PM
John Rakoci
Eagle Realty - North Myrtle Beach, SC
North Myrtle Beach Coastal Carolinas

Jason- when you have none to spend or borrow you pull back and bite the bullet. It is more painful in the short term but much better in the mid & long term. You said the govt is borrowing on our behalf- not quite, they are borrowing from us. If the taxpayers could borrow they would so the govt is forcing the debt on us, our children, and grandchildren.

Just to let you know  - a liberal point of view helps make the US turn. I do not dislike obama but he is over-zealous. I did not vote for him. I heard too much I did not like. The Rev Wright debacle eliminated all trust I had in him. He is too smart toi have missed much in 20 years so it was a lie. I never trust one without integrity. I'm an Independent- almost voted for obama. 

Sep 10, 2009 02:30 PM
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John - It's true, the taxpayer will have to compensate for all of this spending at some point.  It seems like the American consumer has a sense for this.  It's hard to not feel as rosey as the media says we should feel.  It doesn't feel like the recession is over, as much as they try to tell us it is.  It seems like only a matter of time before Americans at large wise up to what's taking place.

Sep 11, 2009 02:06 AM