5,117,808
I sure would post information in the agent only remarks section at the very least. This could be dangerous to prospective buyers and thus to me a material fact that should be disclosed. If something happens, let them sue the seller, but not me for being negligent about disclosure.
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, ...
Scottsdale, AZ
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge, CO
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Susan Laxson CRS
La Quinta, CA
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
1,728,967
That seller is risking a suit even with the disclosure. Offer to knock down the nests!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,555,250
No way I "go live on the MLS" until they are removed. That is a safety & PR nightmare. We dealt with wasps in Napa all the time, we'd simply Raid blast the nests at night or early morning to get them in the nests and then hose blast the nests down later in the day.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
823,679
I think if you have knowledge that someone might be injured, that you would have to add a caution warning to the MLS. I also would strongly encourage the seller to hire professionals who are experienced in relocating nests without too much injury to the wasps, if that is why the seller doesn't want them disturbed.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Susan Haughton
Alexandria, VA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
5,247,584
Strongly suggest the wasp nest be removed to avoid liability and get a signed disclosure! Absolutely warn showing agents!
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
4,584,846
If the seller is unwilling to have the nests removed, I believe there are bigger issues than wasps. Just another example that common sense is not so common.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
613,494
Seller really does not have common sense. If something happens, he might even say that you told him not to remove them.
I would send him an e-mail recommending removal and telling him why, so that you have a paper trail.
Eve
PS: are you sure that you really want the listing?
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
5,583,328
you convince the seller to hire an exterminator to remove the nests....there are people who are allergic to bee stings and could die from it....
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,466,257
Jeff Pearl I believe a warning is essential. Bee stings can be very dangerous for some people. It's not much fun for anyone to get stung. I also believe it will limit the number of showings.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Eve Alexander
Tampa, FL
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
1,513,143
With the price of epipen I think a warning is in order!
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,027,602
I am with Susan Laxson CRS - if they wish no harm to come to the wasps, then help find a company that can relocate them with no harm to them. The sellers do realize, I presume, that as soon as they hand over the keys to a new buyer, the first things those folks are likely to do is kill them, right?
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Susan Laxson CRS
La Quinta, CA
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
2,817,727
OMG this is crazy stupid. They are risking a lawsuit and they will certainly turn buyers off. I would make sure they have umbrella insurance.
Is this a matter of money? Or is it that they don't want to harm the bees?
If it's the former, they are leaving money on the table.
If it's the latter, I suppose they could delay putting house on market and wait for them to die and then have exterminator take care of this when it gets colder. (assuming they live somewhere it gets colder.
they are also leaving money on the table by delaying.
Definitely put in MLS and protect yourself and the buyers.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,350,774
I am not into killing things. I would want them knocked down without a massacre. I have knocked down many wasp nests in my day. I would never spray and kill them. That is just me. We all have a right to live and co-exist in our shared space.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge, CO
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
2,460,173
I wouldn't take the listing until the hives were removed. I wouldn't show the house myself. How could I take a listing I couldn't service properly?
If the house is put on the market with active wasps nests, it must be disclosed all over the place. Heaven forbid someone comes and is allergic, or a child is at the showing and quickly picks something up to throw at the nest and bees attack, or .... and the list goes on.
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
991,952
I wouldn't have taken the listing untl the hives were removed.
Can you imagine someone who is highly allergic getting stung and then suing?
No thank you!!!
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
Phoenix, AZ
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Debbie Gartner
White Plains, NY
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,242,204
I personally know one person who got his toe bitten with a medical bill. He wasted no time in sueing.
Insist to have them evicted before someone sues the heck out of realtors and owner. Disclose or putting warning signs probably will still result in a lawsuit.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge, CO
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,458,769
I would most definitely warn people. My very first showing of my career was traumatic to say the least. I was opening the lockbox and suddenly I was stung on the face 5 times!!!! My client said they were most impressed with me because I managed not to freak out and curse like a drunken sailor!
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Susan Emo
Kingston, ON
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
2,785,746
That is disclosure food....You are inviting people onto an unsafe property?
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Richie Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
6,426,300
Rather than a warning on the mls, it may be more important to warn your client that the home may not sell with these hazardous pets, that his/her liability will be raised with these hazardous pets, and that they may lose their agent if they show that they are not serious about selling by keeping these hazardous pets.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,988,013
This is not a good sign that the seller is more worried about disturbing the wasps than people getting stung and his liability. How is someone going to want to chance getting into the house with those hazards at front and back? I would question the seller's motivation and have a very seriuos conversation about taking this listing.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
474,592
Good morning Jeff Pearl,
I showed a home about two years ago and I got stung by a wasp. I wish the agent would have disclosed. The agent knew about it and so did the seller.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,416,088
I would make the seller spray them or allow me to get someone to spray them. It should not be showed at all with this danger over head
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
5,063,430
Definite warning, and disclosure. Seller needs to get rid of them and I would put that in writing. I might even consider not taking the listing if seller will not cooperate
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
5,773,392
Jeff,
I agree with Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI NMLS#1483386 and I would post a warning on the MLS. Some people may be allergic to these. A
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
2,190,382
DANGER! DANGER! I would tell my sellers what a huge liability this is for them (AND YOU)!!! They must take care of the problem. To knowingly put people in danger is asking for trouble! I wouldn't even list the property until the issue is resolved.
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
716,819
I think my friend Nina Nina Hollander said it all as well as many others. You have a huge liability. I would probably refuse to take the listing until this is resolved. What you know must be disclosed. Imagine the scenario... a potential buyer shows up with a young child, and child gets attacked by the bees... ends in the hospital... your ass is toast my friend along with the seller.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
4,319,873
Jeff Pearl - disclosures, disclosures, disclosures!
Better safe than sorry!
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
2,684,769
Warning in Agent remarks. Liability.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,986,308
Put up a notice for everyone to know
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
679,404
I would make a note of it in the Private Remarks section to the Agents who will be showing the property. Best to make sure your seller takes care of the problem in the evening when the wasps are settled in for the night. And then get rid of the nests.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,168,314
doesn't want to disturb them? aw heck no. If the owner is too chicken to get rid of them I'll do it, however if they want to "save the wasps" they can keep their listing.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,744,645
Sorry, but I think the appropriate thing is to disturb the wasps.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,590,666
Not going to happen on my watch! Good grief those sellers have a huge liabilty knowingly leaving active wasps nests while putting their home on the market.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,507,123
I post a warning in the agent remarks.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
216,904
Since there are many people who can die from a bee sting, let alone several stings, I would inform the Seller that we can market the home once the nests are down. You have to inform agents of this danger. Do so in agent comments, as well as general property comments.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,617,916
I would call my pest control company to remove it that day
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
846,475
Jeff I would insist that they be removed-just mention "lawsuit" to the sellers. Even if the listing is "as-is" bio-hazards should not convey!
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
902,658
It could be a health issue if someone has allergies to stings; I would warn.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
4,800,132
I would post warnings. And, strongly urge the seller to spray and get rid of them. It's really no big deal to get some wasp spray and be rid of them.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,848,031
In my neck of the woods I would get the village involved if the seller doesn't want to bother them. They are not endangered in my state.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,665,036
Susan and Nina have this one.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
797,457
They need to call in an exterminator, that's just not fair.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
717,185
Why in the world would the seller not get rid of these? You have to warn people. Agent remarks in MLS a must!
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
921,504
IF the seller has demonstrated they will not be present during showings, I will guarantee those nests will experience rapid colony collapse, for mysterious reasons of course.
Although bees are not credited with being the smartest critters on earth, they tend to always know I am the one who threw the rock. For my own safety, the wasps must go.
Then we talk about what the EpiPen thing is all about. Of course if they are anti-immunization, one may realize they are talking to a brick wall.
So one option is to wait for "Why aren't we getting showings or offers?"
"Folks won't look at a house with a menacing pit bull on a chain blocking the front door."
"I don't have a pit bull."
And the story continues.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,057,804
Oh nonononoooo! Pest Control is coming to get those nests before this house goes on the market.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
97,866
#1 THOSE ARE NOT BEES, folks. They are wasps, who can sting multiple times. (Jeff Pearl named them correctly in his question.)
#2 This photo shows a satellite nest being formed. The home is where they will go at night until this one is big enough to sustain them. (Maybe that's the one on the other side of the house.) They're working hard to get it ready before the cold. It might be knocked off on a cool night, but I would get a good look at it first to ensure no wasps have remained on or in it, since it is getting quite large now.
#3. Wasps are territorial. Relocation is unlikely to be viable, and focusing on this is (for me) time being wasted for little or no return.
#4. I would not show the house with that kind of risk...at BOTH entrances???!
#5. Any person tall enough walking under a nest will be seen as an immediate threat. Do the people living in that house happen to be short? The wasps will recognize the resident(s) of the house. They will not recognize tall strangers. Now you see why a caution in MLS may not save someone from a sting (or more).
#6. When these nests are removed, go immediately to a big box home improvement store and buy two fake wasp nests. Hang them prominently in back and front of the house to ensure no other wasps see opportunity.
#7. If you get stung, do your best to suck out the poison (or have someone else do it) immediately. Got stung 3 years ago and this really helps to ease the impact. Don't swallow. It's only one drop they put in, but that drop packs a real wallop.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
637,484
I would post it in the "agents remarks" for sure to cover myself. Does the owner know that there is liability involved? Hope his homeowners insurance is paid up.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
3,071,589
Wait until the wasps are gone - or don't list at all
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,712,876
I don't list the property this way.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
4,434,177
I would inform all showing agents. I might suggest no showings until it is removed.
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Susie Kay
Plano, TX
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
1,625,735
I'd add this information to private remarks for agents.
Why not to get rid of them?
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
4,272,984
That could be so very dangerous (disclose)
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
5,259,126
Absolutely post a warning! And, I believe I would have the sellers erect a sign by the front door as well. A large portion of the population is allergic to bee stings so, someone's life could be at risk by not saying anything.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
2,224,473
Post a warning. I'm allergic. I was stung while showing property over the summer. It seriously affected me.
Encourage the seller to find someone to get rid of the nests.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA
509,449
I would encourage the seller to hire a professional to remove the nests. It's not only for the appeal of the home but also for liability. If seller insists not to remove then yes, I would put a note in the mls. That will put some buyers off.
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Jeff Pearl
Lovettsville, VA