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Was That a Tone of Glee in Your Voice? Best of Luck Unrepresented Buyer

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Was That a Tone of Glee in Your Voice?  Best of Luck Unrepresented Buyer

My daily ritual of making those phone calls that need to be made took place today.

Just wondering buyer . . . was that a tone of glee in your voice?

I hope not.  

A done deal is a closed deal.  Your "deal" ain't even close to being done yet.  You may be in for a ride.

The email came in Saturday @4:46PM "Hi Carla, We're looking for a buyers agent,"

Wonderful.  Best first move in the real estate buying process:  Get a BUYERS AGENT.

I don't know anything about their situation other than what was written in the brief email -- which wasn't much.  They gave the price range but I had no idea what that was based on . . . they didn't mention if they are pre-approved.  All the other important information such as: time frames, budgets, down payment, lender  . . . all the necessary insights for me to provide some sort of direction, guideance, help, weren't included.

"Hey let's meet up," I email back.

All I knew from the email is they want to buy a house. 

The invitation was extended for us all to meet.  It's called a business meeting for a reason.  We talk the "business" of buying a home.  When I didn't hear back, I called today to follow-up.  At least that's why they gave me their phone number, right?!?

"Yeah, we went driving around yesterday and something just fell in to our lap, we wrote up an offer . . . "

Was that a tone of glee?  Although disappointed that I wouldn't be assisting them  . . . 

. . . the protective nature started to emerge, but I put a lid on it.

I wanted to ask so many questions and protect these buyers, these novice first timers. 

You snag a house without using a buyer's agent while driving around on Sunday and just happened to find "the house" . . . and made the offer through the listing agent.  That about says it all for me.

They weren't looking for representation.  

They wanted to play Realtor because HGTV makes it seem so easy.

Who needs a Buyer's Agent, right?

Hope you got the killer deal you probably think you got.

Closing costs?

Comps?

Concessions?

Contingencies?

I'm sure that's all being worked out in your favor, through the Listing Agent . . . 

Oh, they didn't bother to tell you that they CAN NOT comp the property for you.  But, go ahead and take their word on fair market value . . . they don't have anyones' best interests but yours at the forefront of their "representation" of you two . . . rolling eyes!

How do you know if the listing agent and seller are asking too much for the property? 

Right . . . exactly . . . you don't!

But wait . . . Oregon real estate agency says that a . . .

Buyer and seller using the same agent are in a "Disclosed LIMITED" agency.  

Limited to . . . what the LISTING AGENT can do for the Buyer!  Why a Buyer would want a LIMITED real estate agent on the biggest purchase and financial obligation in their life, I'll never know.  

Trust me, the Listing Agent can not engage in Buyer Agency Representation.

I sure hope the listing agent worked out that great deal for the both of you!  But when they are"limited" by the very nature of "conflicts of interest" . . . I wonder how that can work?

I've been around the block a few times.  I can tell that these Buyers just don't care . . . nope. They just think they bagged and tagged the biggest game, and they may well have . . . it's a big game.  They may have just gotten played!

 

 

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Carla Muss-Jacobs has RETIRED effective May 1, 2018

Representing Buyers in the Portland Metro Real Estate Market | Clackamas Multnomah and Washington Counties | Since 1999

Carla Muss-Jacobs, REALTOR®, ABR, CEBA, ePro
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Carla Muss-Jacobs' retirement became effective May 1, 2018

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Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

It totally fries me when buyers infer that as a listing agent, I can get them a special deal. No damn way. I always encourage buyers to get their own representation - in the long run, it generally saves them money.

Dec 30, 2013 07:20 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

To bad these buyers failed to get themselves represented with a Buyer's Agent. I can't see how they will ever get a Good Deal going directly to the Listing Agent. In my state, Listing agents can't offer any concessions to buyers, since they don't represent them.

Dec 30, 2013 08:08 AM
Brenda Mullen
RE/MAX Associates - San Antonio, TX
Your San Antonio TX Real Estate Agent!!

Sigh...it's the same old story over and over again.  If you don't have your own representation you have no clue of whether you have gotten a good deal or a bad one.  Here in Texas we are to treat all CUSTOMERS fairly and honestly, but as a listing agent, I represent the sellers and are under contract to get them the highest price with the best terms.  Buyers need to be more diligent about looking after their own interests.  

Dec 30, 2013 08:45 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

It's sadly not likely they got the deal they think they got.  I'm not always against dual agency (if the buyer is an investor and they aren't looking at my comps anyway, they are just throwing stuff at the wall until something sticks), but mostly our office sticks to designated (one agent per side, but both in our office) or single agency.  

Dec 30, 2013 10:11 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Debb . . . buyers don't get it, but think they do.

Hey Jerry -- we have "limited" disclosed agency.  Why a buyer or seller would want a "limited" (in their duties) agent always leaves me scratching my head.

Hi Brenda . . . yes that's also a Realtor Code of Ethics.  Sadly, those that define "fair and honest" are coming from that standpoint, but that's not so say that's not smoke being blown up someone's arse just to close the deal.

Hey Tammy -- Let's hope that the buyer found "new construction" with builder/owner's own contract.  I sure that wouldn't have been glossed over.  I'm sure it will all work out.

Dec 30, 2013 10:36 AM
Erin Bates
CMG Financial and Expansion Marketing Services - Aurora, CO

Oh man - another one of these huh? I do not know where people are getting this idea that listing agents will get them some gleaming deal. Happy New Year

 

P.S. Did you get my email? I am holding off publishing the tabloid from last month's contest winners (Real Deals of Real Estate) until I get the approval of those I chose content from - yours was one of them! :) 

Dec 30, 2013 12:24 PM
Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County

Carla, Like you say, once you watch HGTV, you think you are a real estate expert. Maybe we should all watch more HGTV--hee, hee. Best wishes to you for a wonderful 2014 filled with people who truly appreciate all the excellent things that you do for them.

Dec 31, 2013 03:55 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Erin . . . brilliant newletter!  Use whatever you want!

Hey Melissa -- yes, and watching Law & Order now makes people NY Police Detectives 

Dec 31, 2013 11:17 AM
Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Tampa, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Tampa Home Buyers

Hey, I want the red striped square...makes me feel buzzed without a future hangover...love it!

Eve 

Jan 03, 2014 04:49 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Eve . . . buyers are being hynotized

Jan 03, 2014 06:42 AM
Dana Hollish Hill
Hollish Hill Group, JPAR Stellar Living - Bethesda, MD
REALTOR * Broker * Coach

All the TV shows have given consumers a very odd view of how real estate works. Many of my clients have said things like they can't believe real estate is not like they saw it on an HGTV show. Amazing.

Jan 09, 2014 08:30 PM