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Meth Lab information - Thanks Ron for the Information

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Real Estate Agent with Exit Realty Cherry Creek 038852

This article was shared by my home inspector - Ron Tipton

 

Identifying Meth Labs 
WHAT TO LOOK FOR - APPEARANCE OF THE STRUCTURE
A house or other structure containing a meth lab usually has one or more of the following characteristics:
UNUSUAL ODORS - Making meth produces powerful odors that may smell like ammonia or ether. These odors have been compared to the smell of cat urine or rotten eggs.
COVERED WINDOWS - Meth makers often blacken or cover windows to prevent outsiders from seeing in.
STRANGE VENTILATION - Meth makers often employ unusual ventilation practices to rid themselves of toxic fumes produced by the meth-making process. They may open windows on cold days or at other seemingly inappropriate times, and they may set up fans, furnace blowers, and other unusual ventilation systems.
ELABORATE SECURITY - Meth makers often set up elaborate security measures, including, for example, "Keep Out" signs, guard dogs, video cameras, or baby monitors placed outside to warn of persons approaching the premises.
DEAD VEGETATION - Meth makers sometimes dump toxic substances in their yards, leaving burn pits, "dead spots" in the grass or vegetation, or other evidence of chemical dumping.
EXCESSIVE OR UNUSUAL TRASH - Meth makers produce large quantities of unusual waste that may contain, for example:

packaging from cold tablets

lithium batteries that have been torn apart

used coffee filters with colored stains or powdery residue

empty containers - often with puncture holes - of antifreeze, white gas, ether, starting fluids, Freon, lye, drain opener, paint thinner, acetone, alcohol, or other chemicals

plastic soda bottles with holes near the top, often with tubes coming out of the holes

plastic or rubber hoses, duct tape, rubber gloves, or respiratory masks.

 

  WHAT TO LOOK FOR - BEHAVIOR OF THE OCCUPANTS
Some "telltale signs" of a house containing a meth lab relate not to the appearance of the structure but rather to the behavior of its occupants. You should look for:
PARANOID BEHAVIOR - Meth makers tend to act in a manner that is extremely paranoid and secretive. For example, they may monitor passing cars, show great suspicion toward strangers, and - as noted above - construct elaborate security systems around their homes.
STAYING INSIDE - Residents of houses containing meth labs may remain inside their homes for extended periods of time. Many meth addicts and meth makers are not only paranoid and secretive, but also unemployed.
SMOKING OUTSIDE - By the same token, residents of houses and other structures containing meth labs often go outside to smoke. They do this to avoid igniting a fire or explosion when matches, lighters, or cigarettes come into contact with the highly combustible chemicals and fumes found in a meth lab.
FREQUENT VISITORS - Although residents of a house or other structure containing a meth lab may stay in or near their homes, they often receive a large number of visitors, especially at night. These visitors may be bringing supplies, taking away meth, using meth, hanging out, or any combination of these activities.
MOBILE GARBAGE - To avoid detection of their illegal activities, meth makers may burn their trash, place it in the trash collection area of another house or building, or cart it away and dump it elsewhere.


 WHAT TO LOOK FOR Inside the structure
Houses and other structures containing meth labs may exhibit one or more of the following characteristics:
APPEARANCE AND CLEANLINESS OF THE STRUCTURE - Houses and other structures hosting meth labs vary enormously in their appearance. It may be immediately apparent that meth is being manufactured and used in the structure. A structure hosting a meth lab may be unkempt, unsanitary, and full of chemical odors. On the other hand, the structure may also appear very normal and orderly. The appearance of the structure depends on the care that the meth manufacturer takes to hide his or her unlawful activities.
PRESENCE OF METH INGREDIENTS - The best indicators of meth production are the presence of the ingredients used to make the drug. Homes containing a meth lab may have either (1) a large amount of a single meth ingredient, such as Sudafed, or, alternatively (2) a significant number of ingredients and supplies used to make meth. Here are some typical meth-making ingredients and supplies:
· cold medications containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine
· lithium batteries
· ether and/or camping fuels
· anhydrous ammonia
· hydrogen peroxide
· Red Devil lye
· sulfuric, muriatic, and/or hydrochloric acid
· coffee filters
· funnels and turkey basters
· improvised glassware
While many of these ingredients and equipment are common, the amounts and the form of the ingredients needed to manufacture meth are different than what the average person would possess. For example, multiple boxes of cold medicine, or cold medication removed from blister packs, may indicate the presence of a meth lab. The same is true for coffee filters covered with strange stains or powders.
PRESENCE OF EQUIPMENT OR APPARATUS USED TO MAKE METH - In addition, there may be strange types of equipment or apparatus in the house used to manufacture meth. For example, soft drink bottles with hoses attached or cans of camping fuel with holes punched through the sides or bottom indicate the presence of a meth lab.
 
The previous information was obtained from the Illinois Attorney General's website.  If you question whether or not a home was a meth lab, you can have it professionally tested.  We recommend Forensic Applications Consulting Technologies, Inc.  185 Bounty Hunters Lane
Bailey, Colorado 80421
Phone: 303-903-7494
Fax:      303-568-0489
E-mail: fiosrach@aol.com

Carol Swain
Keller Williams Real Estate - Langhorne, PA
Realtor, -www.swainsells.com- Bucks County, Pa

Wow this is great information to have.  I know I would not want to sell anyone a meth lab home.

Aug 11, 2008 04:27 AM
Randall Schrader
Competitive Insurance of Dundee - Dundee, FL

And we need to know this for . . . . ?  From your ingredients list, I don't see how anyone could survive taking meth.

Aug 11, 2008 04:28 AM
Selena Bunn
McNeal & Douglas, Atty At Law, LLC - Auburn, AL

I am not sure of the rules in CO, but in AL, if we know of a drug bust for the meth, you are required to disclose, because the toxins remain in the walls and curtains and can cause future illnesses.

 

Aug 11, 2008 04:30 AM
Peter Mann
Keller Williams Realty - Bellevue, WA
Peter Mann Seattle-Bellevue Real Estate Agent

Thanks LaDawn! This is very helpful information. Hopefully I never have to encounter a meth lab, but if I do, I will know how to identify it from a first glance :-)

Aug 11, 2008 04:31 AM
Ilyce Glink
Think Glink Media - Chicago, IL
Best-selling author, award-winning TV/radio host.
Great post. I recently wrote an article about meth makers using propane tanks. Here is an expert, it is a very interesting topic that we are going to have to start paying attention to in real estate and other aspects of life:

According to a summer safety alert from the National Propane Tank Association, Methamphetamine users have discovered that they can take propane tanks, drain them and fill them with something called anhydrous ammonia.

When the Meth labs are finished with the propane tanks, they return them to the store. What happens next is really scary. The propane tanks are refilled, and then folks like us buy them and start cooking on them. But according to the NPTA, if your tank has anhydrous ammonia traces in it, it could turn into a huge explosion!

The information was researched, and you should check out the following website for more details. They also have pictures for you to view:
http://www.npga.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=529

Aug 11, 2008 04:33 AM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

This is very helpful information and I appreciate your taking the time to post it.  Now if I encounter a property described as such, I'll know what I'm looking at, although hopefully that won't ever happen.

Aug 11, 2008 04:37 AM
Randall Schrader
Competitive Insurance of Dundee - Dundee, FL

I saw a meth lab on CSI Miami and a huge explosion was their biggest fear.  But swallowing meth, or whatever, is okay??

Aug 12, 2008 04:25 AM