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The real estate version of Dumb and Dumber...

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Real Estate Agent with Real Estate One

Did you see the story in the Realtor®Mag news feed today about the guy who sold the same New York building twice to two Connecticut real estate agents? One "bought it for only $22,000 with a $2,500 cash down payment in advance. The second agent got a better deal - only $10,000 cash for the building, all of it in advance. The "agent" was a phony (I hope I didn't spoil that for you), using a fake ID and with no ownership interest in the building whatsoever. He took the cash and was never seen or heard from again. Well, surprise, surprise surprise!

One has to wonder what was going through the heads of those two realtors (other than greedy thoughts) to allow them to turn over $12,500 to someone whom they had not met before this deal for an out-of-state building. Perhaps they got a tour of the building first or maybe just watched a virtual tour or just looked at photos. Perhaps they even got receipts and official looking documents for the cash that they turned over.

Maybe the world of commercial real estate is so different that I don't even understand that this is not an unusual practice. Maybe fraud and dishonesty is so rare in that realm that this kind of scam is unthinkable. I just can't imagine a typical residential Realtor doing something like this; but perhaps we have become too cynical - been made too cautious and suspicious by years of dealing with foreclosure and short sale scam artists.

I can't help but imagine the look on the O&E Insurance rep's face when s/he heard these stories. Oh, and by he way, I've got this great deal on a building in downtown Detroit for only $15,000 - that's only $1,000 a floor. Bring cash.

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 Norm Werner

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Chris Olsen
Olsen Ziegler Realty - Cleveland, OH
Broker Owner Cleveland Ohio Real Estate

Hi Norm -- There is no substitute for due diligence.  Wow.  I would have had a title company run a search on it, they could have easily spotted it.  Many larger areas also have ownership databases (auditor, etc.) online, should have been an easy thing.

Feb 15, 2011 01:48 PM
Allison Klein
Full House Realty Group - Fort Collins, CO
Fort Collins Real Estate

All's I can say is Wow!

Feb 15, 2011 01:54 PM
Kieno Simeon Your South Riding Real Estate Consultant
Keller Williams Realty - South Riding, VA

How crazy is that.  People out there are always looking for the next way to scam.   It's the never ending saga.  

Feb 15, 2011 02:30 PM
Ellen Wright Adams
Academy Mortgage.......We are a Equal Housing Lender - Eugene, OR
LoansByEllen- Licensed in Oregon
Norm: Dumb & Dumber about describes this! Surprised with all the info we want when we want it that this could happen....
Feb 15, 2011 02:37 PM
Vickie McCartney
Maverick Realty - Owensboro, KY
Broker, Real Estate Agent Owensboro KY

Hi Norm~  Oh, I missed this story some how! NOthing surprises me anymore!

Feb 15, 2011 02:49 PM
Tammie White, Broker
Franklin Homes Realty LLC - Franklin, TN
Franklin TN Homes for Sale

Fortunately, I'm far too mistrusting to fall for this.

Feb 15, 2011 03:21 PM
Barbara Altieri
Better Homes and Gardens RE Shore and Country Properties - Shelton, CT
REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale

Norm -- I'm in CT so this caught me eye. I just can't even believe how stupid some people can be. 

Feb 15, 2011 03:29 PM
Jeanne Kozak
RE/MAX In Action - Martinsburg, WV
REALTOR and Broker/Owner in WV and VA

Greed is not good...

Feb 15, 2011 03:40 PM
Steven Graham
epropertysites - Mountlake Terrace, WA
Coach, ePs, Director of Training

Talk about adding insult to injury! As agents, they should have known better than to let greed cloud their judgment. Sure they lost some cash, but imagine what their clients are thinking when they read about it. "Hey, my agent just got taken advantage of in a real estate scam". I wonder how that is going to affect their referral business, not to mention their barganing ability with their fellow agents. I don't think this fits in the "any press is good press" envelope.

Feb 15, 2011 04:00 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

...which is why you run title before getting too far, or at least check public records. Due diligence is nit just a formality. 

Feb 15, 2011 05:34 PM
Janet McCarthy
San Diego Homes Guide - San Diego, CA
Broker Associate

I hate to see anyone getting taken or cheated but ...How could this happen to Realtors?  Just goes to show that  no one is immune to falling for a slick salesman.  My weakness is door to door frozen meat salesman who come by in the afternoon.  I've fallen for this twice: once when I was 8 months pregnant and the last time when I was very hungry and didn't know what to cook for dinner.  Who buys meat at $12 a pound?  Who buys frozen meat at $12 a pound?  At least I could eat my bad deal, those guys ended up with nothing.

Feb 15, 2011 05:36 PM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

Good Grief!

Feb 15, 2011 11:27 PM
Brent Wells
The LivingWell Team - Prosper, TX
Dallas - Fort Worth

Norm,

Thats why I love 'process engineering'. When you have solid, repeatable, tested processes these type of things don't happen. When you don't follow the solid processes you wind up in the ditch...

-Brent

Feb 16, 2011 01:27 AM
Chris Mayr
D3 Interactive Marketing - Orlando, FL

If it sounds too good to be true, it must be.  But There is a sucker born every minute.

It always amazes me when somebody who should know better falls for a con.

Feb 16, 2011 01:32 AM
Irene Kennedy Realtor® in Northwestern NJ
Weichert - Lopatcong, NJ

Norm,

For the right price, I can sell you (or anyone else with cash) the Brooklyn Bridge...

Feb 16, 2011 01:49 AM
Bob Sooy
Realty World Northeast LLC - Sugarloaf, PA

Wow you just saved me from that "killer deal" on some swampland in Florida. Thanks! I owe you one! :-)

Feb 16, 2011 02:11 AM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

And those agents didn't put the cash in escrow with a title company like a regular transaction? Even with cash, they need a clear title...

Feb 16, 2011 02:57 AM
Andrew McGrath
Donovan Group Realty - Santa Ana, CA

Caveat Emptor. But wow, you would think that these agents would be a bit more savvy, and do some of their own research into an investment property before throwing their cash at it. From my perspective that is very unusual, but people of other means may throw $10-20k at something without having to worry about it or even really thinking about it.

--Andrew

Feb 16, 2011 03:59 AM
Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi Norm,  They couldn't see how risky this deal was due to all the red flags waving.  Go Figure !

Feb 16, 2011 07:50 AM
Tracy McPeek
Cottonwood, CA

Maybe that's what I am doing wrong!  LOL, like they say if it sounds too good to be true it usually is.

Feb 16, 2011 10:12 AM