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Would You Take an Overpriced Listing? Yeah, Me too! A Change of Heart

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Real Estate Agent with RE eBroker Group - San Leandro, CA. 0898737

In my 26+ years in real estate, I thought I had seen it all... well, not exactly all, here is a new one for me. I have been very adamant about NOT taking a listing that is not priced properly. Overpriced listings are bad for everybody, for the seller, the home buyer, the appraiser, the Realtors, even the neighborhood! Why is it that sellers want yesterday's prices? haven't they read the real estate news? The market has dropped... a lot!

About 3 months ago, I was called to put a house on the market, I did my usual research, took a good look at the house, reviewed the comparable sales with the owners and help them secure a stagger, and even a carpet outfit to replace a worn out carpet in the hallway. My suggestion, based on comparable sales, and my knowledge of the neighborhood, (I live 4 blocks away from this home) was to price this home at about $650,000. The sellers were not happy at all. They wanted to list it at $775,000! what a big difference!

I looked at my research again, and could not find a justification for their price. I knew that I will never have comparable sales for the appraisal. I offered to list it at $675,000 with a proviso that we reduce the price after 3 open houses, the difference was too big for them to overcome, my standard speech for a situation like this one was given: "... I am sorry, I rather turn you down, than let you down..." I cannot work with your price. They told me, they will think about it...

Overpriced Listing in San leandro's Bay-O-Vista  The very next day, I received a beautiful plant delivered to my house with a note of thanks. They informed me that they were going to go with another Realtor, and thank me for my efforts. 3 days later, the house was listed on the MLS at $775,000. The other Realtor had open houses almost every weekend, after 30 days the price went down to $750,000, another 3 weeks later to $725,000 5 weeks later the price dropped again to $699,950 and then again to $675,000, then it went pending. Last week it closed escrow at $640,000!

Who dropped the ball in this scenario? the other Realtor did get paid. I upheld my high values and did not get paid, the other guy spent time and money, but got the job done. Then, I realized, that the seller does have the right to try and get the best possible price for his home... Even if it is an unrealistic price to begin with.! Sellers, are at a disadvantage when playing real estate, if the seller does not get the best price, he cannot go back and fix it. The buyer can realized he is overpaying and pull out of escrow before is too late, the seller cannot accept a higher offer once is in escrow.

If this would have been an isolated incident, I would have not even writen this post. But earlier this year, I had a similar situation where I was called to sell a house and my price based on comparables told me the house was worth $630,000 tops, I always look at how I will provide the right 3 comparable sales to the appraiser. I did not have them here either, I also refused to list it at their high price. The seller had another agent list it for $675,000 and it sold in ONE day! The kicker? an all cash buyer come and close escrow in 7 days... yes, this seller was lucky, because there are not too many all cash buyers ready to overpay for a house anymore.

As Realtors, we are paid for our knowledge and experience, but overpriced listings and no comparable sales are a bad and very expensive proposition. Appraisers are on the firing line, and we have lost weeks of previewing, showing houses, writing contracts and then after being in escrow for weeks, the appraisal comes and shuts down the entire transaction and sends everyone back to square one. Does anyone out there have the magic formula? I would like to know.

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Many of my short sale listings were previously overpriced with other Realtors.

Jul 13, 2011 04:34 PM
Anonymous
Anonymous
What a neat dance photo at the top of the post But what s the opportunity cost if all this time at unrealistic prices
Jul 13, 2011 05:38 PM
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Sarasota & Manatee Counties FL
SaraMana Properties - QuickFreeMLS.com - Bradenton, FL
QuickFreeMLS.com - Listings In Paradise

Nope! I will not take an overpriced listing. I will not do it! :-)

Jul 13, 2011 06:50 PM
Ronald DiLalla
Century 21 Discovery DRE 01813824 - Anaheim, CA
No. Orange Cty Real Estate

I have taken overpriced listings, but letting the clients know that in my opinion our listing price was extremely high and that if they were really planning on selling that more than likely we would have to have a price reduction at various times in the process....sometimes it works and sometime I have had to cancel the listing.

Jul 13, 2011 08:56 PM
Lori Cain
Own Tulsa - Tulsa, OK
Midtown Tulsa Real Estate Top Producer

I have lost several listings because I refused to take over-priced listings. This last year, I have started writing in the listing agreement automatic reductions to price $ after 30 days on market, auto reduction to price $ after 60 days on market, etc. At least you don't have to call to discuss later.

Jul 13, 2011 11:06 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

It all comes down to motivation of the seller.  If they want to sell or need to sell, they will eventually reduce the price.

Jul 14, 2011 12:26 AM
Bernadine Hunter, SFR, ACRE
Keller Williams Greater Columbus Realty - Pickerington, OH
"Finding Solution to Your Real Estate Needs"

I willl generally get them to agree to a repricing strategy to get it to where it needs to be in order to sell.

Jul 14, 2011 12:46 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

I've sort of reversed course on this or at least my ears are now open to another counter point.  Yes, the seller does have the right to price his or her property wherever they want, but I have a right to reserve my efforts for people who are more likely to sell their home. 

But, overpriced listings DO sell. What to do?  I think it just depends.  And, if your market is declining price wise you may want to bend your rule a bit in order to be competitive and sensitive to the desires of sellers.  

Outline all the issues to them up front with overpricing, let them pick a price, if the motivation to sell is truly there you may want to go ahead and take that listing.

Jul 14, 2011 01:06 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Broker
Elizabeth Anne Weintraub, Broker - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

The whole point in real estate is to get the listing. It's not your house. You never really know what a buyer will do, either. When you decide that you do, you're in trouble. I have had listings that could sit on the market at an inflated price because they brought me a ton of other listings and other buyers -- kept the seller happy and I was happy -- and some of those inflated listings eventually sold at their inflated price. All you can do is advise the seller of price. If the seller wants to overprice, that's the seller's option. Your job is to put it on the market -- if you don't, some other agent will. And, like you learned, that agent will get paid and you won't.

Jul 14, 2011 02:55 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Antonio & Alexia, Congrats on the Feature. Well deserved.  I do tend to agree with you on not taking over-priced listings.  I recently canceled a listing because the seller refused to lower the price.  It's a lot of work marketing a listing week over week. At the end of the day we do not meet the sellers expectations ... and ultimately let them down.  For me, it is a matter of not wanting to take on all the negative energy. 

Jul 14, 2011 06:24 AM
Antonio M. Cardenas Broker Associate
RE eBroker Group - San Leandro, CA. - San Leandro, CA
"The Realtors In Motion"

I believe we all have had those listings that seems to go on forever and refuse to sell. When you ad up your time servicing the listing, the advertising dollars, the showings, even the hand holding of the sellers, you realize just how much money you lose by not having the proper price on place from the beginning.

My experience makes me think that no matter what we do, the ultimate goal is not just to take a listing, is to find a way that within a reasonable amount of time you get paid for your efforts, there will always be several prices in any listing: The Seller's price, the listing agent's price, the Buyers perception of price, and the appraisal value. Whether we like it or not, we have to face each one of these price intervals at different times during a transaction.  From now on. I shall keep that in mind.

Thank you all for your visit and your valuable comments.

Antonio

PS: Kathleen, this one counts as one of the 5 post I promised.

Jul 14, 2011 07:00 AM
Linda Metallo DiBenardo
RE/MAX Impact, Lockport, Illinois - Lockport, IL

Typically taking an over-priced listing backfires on the agent, so I just don't do it.

Jul 14, 2011 09:07 AM
Linda Urbick
RealtyOne Group - San Ramon, CA
Selling San Ramon Valley - 925-786-5132

This is a hard one and I in the past did not take over priced listings - but in today's market you just never know what is going to happen. It is no different that writing an offer for a buyer at a ridicuoulsy low price and have the seller come down and the buyer go up. We can only advise and in the end it is our clients decisions.

Jul 14, 2011 03:56 PM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Sometimes you know that the situation is just wrong. Not only is the seller insisting on an unrealistically high price but there are other warning signals going off. Pass on that listing. Otherwise, take the overpriced listing is the seller's motivation to sell is right. You know someone will. There will be price reductions and the property will eventually sell for a market correct price. If the seller's motivation is not what it needs to be...pass. When they do not get their dream price, they will simply pull the property off the market.

Jul 14, 2011 08:52 PM
Jennifer Manchester
Suburban Properties of Charlotte, LLC - Mint Hill, NC
GRI, ePRO, ASP - Broker/Home Stager

Antonio and Alexa:

Being right doesn't always mean you get paid.  I have passed on overpriced listings and seen them sell with another agent (around the price I told them) and I have seen some of those overpriced listings go through multiple agents and still not sell.  I guess it depends on the seller's motivation and personality like John mentioned.  If it is the right person or right house and they will work with you try it.

Jul 15, 2011 04:57 AM
Anonymous
Brian Park, Broker

If you want to change a good policy just because an exception occurred I'm sure you can find lots of other policies to change too.

Get real, a grossly overpriced listing is not a saleable listing, and I won't take them. I have a couple of cases like yours and I sent the sellers a "get well" card saying I was sorry they had to go through all the extra inconvenience they had to suffer through because of the circumstances at the time. But now is a time to rejoice that they can now get on with their future plans and if there is anything I can do to help let me know and I will continue to give you my best and honest advice. Actually 2 out of the 3 bought their new homes through me.

I do a few exceptions but the seller must be truly motivated which means must sell, and there is a built in price reduction schedule authorized in the listing. I advise them they probably won't get as good as price as coming on the market as my suggested price but they will find out if that wished for buyer who will pay more is out there. Also the listing is long term. If all three conditions are not present, I walk.

Jul 15, 2011 07:42 AM
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Antonio M. Cardenas Broker Associate
RE eBroker Group - San Leandro, CA. - San Leandro, CA
"The Realtors In Motion"

Brian, YOU are the one that needs to "get real" just read the post again, the point here is that yes, you can work with an overpriced listing, it will take you longer, but it is doable. My example clearly shows how the other agent did it. It is your choice to take it or not. Read the post again, so you get the idea.

Antonio

Jul 15, 2011 08:44 AM
Tim Lorenz
TIM LORENZ - Elite Home Sales Team - Mission Viejo, CA
949 874-2247

We have all had situations like your example.  It does not mean that we should price high and reduce constantly.  It causes you problems with the seller.

Jul 15, 2011 06:50 PM
Carol-Ann Palmieri
RE/MAX Executive Realty, Al and Cal Realty Group - Franklin, MA
"Cal" the Real Estate Gal

Hi Antonio.  Loved reading your post along with the comments following.  Is it not best to remember that these are people we are dealing with and to make a judgment call on a case by case basis? 

Jul 16, 2011 01:00 AM
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