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What Discount Will my Client Take if They Sell Their Note?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Dawn Rickabaugh (Note Queen) Owner Financing Consultant

Real estate professionals can get support around structuring owner carry transactions, and help their clients maximize the value of the notes created. This recent email represents fairly common questions that people have when they discover that owner carry notes can be sold, just the way banks sell notes/loans back and forth to each other:

 Dear Purchasers of Notes/Mtgs.,

 1.  Does it have to be seasoned?  If yes, for how long or how many payments?

Usually some, but not always.  It greatly depends on the other factors in the transaction, and whether you’re trying to sell a full, or simply a partial.  I occasionally buy notes without any seasoning, while on the other extreme I may need to see 24+ months of seasoning before considering any type of purchase.

2.  Do you have minimums and maximums on the dollar value of the note/mtg.?

No.

3.  What type of discounts are required and how do they work?

Once in a very rare while, I can pay as much as .90 cents on the dollar, most are in the .60 - .75 range, with some I wouldn’t pay a penny for.  There is no standard discount.  It all depends on the variety of unique circumstances attending each transaction.  The overall discount will be minimized if you choose to only sell a partial, and keep the tail end of the note for yourself.

4. What is the process if I have a note to sell?

Send me the note and security instrument (mortgage or deed of trust) and let’s have a brief phone chat. A brief overview of the transaction is also extremely relevant:

  • Type of property securing the note
  • Location of the property securing the note
  • How long you owned the property before selling it
  • Sale date
  • Sale price
  • Amount of down payment
  • Credit score of buyer/payor

I’m guessing you’re asking about this because in your real estate investing business, you may need or want to use owner financing (with the subsequent sale of the real estate note) for either acquisition or disposition strategies, or both?  I can usually help structure these types of transactions for maximum financial benefit when I am brought in as a consultant before negotiations are finalized.

For professionals… real estate agents, new note brokers, or investor/rehabbers in the business of doing multiple deals, I provide limited email and phone support to members of Owner Financing Club.  People who want in-depth coaching or consulting can arrange that as well.

At Owner Financing Club there are many training videos and some downloadable documents that will help you understand notes and more deeply answer many of the questions you have posed above.  You may want to avail yourself of this affordable education (and support) as a way to increase the number of tools at your disposal for investing in real estate.

There is also a fairly new (and free) one-hour video that will help simplify much of this conversation for you: Why Notes, Why Now?

To your success,

 

Dawn

Pat Champion
John Roberts Realty - Eustis, FL
Call the "CHAMPION" for all your real estate needs

Great information to have it is good to see there are other options available. Thanks for sharing this information.

Jan 05, 2012 09:29 AM
Dan Hopper
Dan Hopper - Gold Way RE - Westminster, CO
Colorado Broker / Referral Services

Great information Dawn.... too many folks out there shy away from the "owner carry" obligations and this is just another good example on how to put them at ease about dealing with them.

Jan 05, 2012 10:20 AM
Dawn Rickabaugh
Dawn Rickabaugh (Note Queen) Owner Financing Consultant - Carson City, NV
Note Queen

Hi Pat - you're very welcome... there are many more options than people realize.  Good luck in your business!

Dan - I agree... "owner will carry" seems to be a hugely foreign and frightening concept, until they realize that done correctly, it's one of the better investment choices they have in today's market, and that another investor would be happy to buy their paper from them!  Buying or selling a note is very similar to buying or selling real estate.

Jan 05, 2012 10:48 AM
JM Padron, CCIM, CCP
THE JMTEAM NETWORK - Destin, FL
CCIM, CCP, International Commercial Broker

Terms vary tremendously depending on the quality of the note as related to the mortgage property.

Jan 06, 2012 12:13 AM
James A. Browning
Browning Real Estate School/REO Institute - International, IT
MRE REOCertified(R) SSCertified

Thank you for sharing your blog; we need Real estate Professionals to share their comments and information regarding their markets and experiences. Thanks again from beautiful Colorado; Spring is here in the Rocky Mountains

Apr 22, 2012 01:20 AM
James A. Browning
Browning Real Estate School/REO Institute - International, IT
MRE REOCertified(R) SSCertified

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Thanks

James A. Browning MRE, CEO & Founder, REO Institute

Jul 24, 2012 05:46 AM