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Breaking Through the Glass Ceiling at SIF

By
Home Stager with Sensational Home Staging

I was reflecting back on my participation on Active Rain and the SIF Group - nine months have gone by since I posted my first blog and began to read what others were sharing. I know we don't always agree, but I was thinking about where I am today versus back then.  What I realized is I really feel like there is this barrier I can't get past or won't be allowed past? I am not sure which - but it is frustrating, and to be truthful, a little hurtful.  It is a glass ceiling in that you are led to believe we can all exist at the same "level" and together, only to find that you are pushed out of groups or invisible to those that you are hoping to connect with.

I read blogs from others where there is joking and kidding - and have joined in the fun banter - and am totally ignored.  I am not even sure if the people doing this are aware they are doing it and it happens to others because I read their comments and see no acknowledgement either.  It's like the kid who wants to join in a game of soccer and stands there ready to play, but never gets passed the ball.  He is a great player, but is just never given the opportunity.  How many people are being overlooked and passed over because of a lack of awareness or, and I hate to use the word, but "Groupiness" (is that even a word?).

I am not sure what it takes to break into one of these "groups" or to be acknowledged - but I try - as some of you might - and there is not even an acknowledgment of what I posted.  It's like I am on the outside looking in - and I can participate to the extent that I want to contribute - but there is a clear barrier of, I don't know, you tell me.  Distrust? Disdain? Disappear, please?  It was to the point of when I created my "MEME" post I did not even bother to post it on the Stage It Forward group because I did not think anyone would care - and I did not want to sit "out there" with no one commenting on what made me "unique."

In one of my earlier blogs I suggested we start tracking stats on the AR site.  I even put up a bunch of my own.  Not one person wrote on the blog so I deleted it.  No one wanted to contribute - and I was blown away.  I shared about team building with some response - and yet what I found curious is others that have taken my business model and used it to build their own teams have posted info about team building and it's like they are the cat's meow and are praised for their ingenuity and spirit of sharing.  When I shared - it was "Eh."  I wrote a blog on ugly houses to add some levity to the blogs and none of you posted a house to play the game.

I don't want you to think that I am a lonely whiner - quite the contrary.  My life is full and my involvement with Active Rain is something that waxes and wanes depending on my schedule.  It's a small indulgence for me - to engage in when I have spare time.  I know for some of you - it is a daily ritual and I don't have that luxury so you'll see me here in bursts of time. I am actually supposed to be packing suitcases for my children for our trip we leave on tomorrow - and instead I am writing this . . . But, it's nice to feel validated, and it makes me wonder if anyone else is finding it hard to break through the glass ceiling to be truly accepted and integrated into the blog site.

I know that I was not welcomed by some when I joined and some probably thought I was here as a mole and I have made myself visible and verbal when certain subjects crossed the line for me.  Do I deserve some cold shoulders?  Probably.  But - others have crossed the line with their passion and commentary and I see them embraced and supported for their views while others are just "tolerated" (or ignored). 

I have actually had some of you reach out to me privately and on my blogs too - which I very much appreciate - as it makes me feel like in some small way the gap is bridged for that moment, and then I am reminded again that I am under the glass in a clear way when I see how others interact on this site that is so vastly different than what I experience.  Maybe you say it will take time - perhaps that is true.  After all it's only been 9 months - and Rome was not built in a day.

Fortunately I get my kudos and props elsewhere - and am not relying solely on friendships forged on a blog site for my connection to Stagers in life - but it is a fun escape and a way to reach out to others that I enjoy.  I think that it's important to think about this because if I am experiencing it, others may be as well.  With thousands of people on the site - I know it may not be realistic to engage personally with everyone, but I feel that if someone takes the time to share a point on blog or to get to "know" you - the hand of courtesy should be extended back.  Those of you reading this please be open to extending that friendship to others and exercise the art of inclusion - so that they too don't feel pushed away by a glass ceiling that belies a friendship that is not reality.

Posted by

Jennie Norris, ASP Master, IAHSP-Premier, SRS, REO, Owner & Principal Stager, Sensational Home Staging serving the Greater Denver region

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Sheron Cardin
California Moods Inc - Selma, CA
ARTIST - A Home Stager/Sellers Best Friend!

I know Jennie...I am talking about this post. This post is like complaining about getting hit on the head.

I have over 200 hundred posts here in AR and some get 60 comments and some get one and if I am looking for comments and interaction then I learn how to get what I want by honing my skills... then proceed to get it. If I want friendships then I am friendly, if I want business, then I am business like, if I want to vent, then those that want to vent will vent with me. And if you have to go back to explain what your post was supposed to say or mean, then you are wanting to control. 

A good way to build up your support team is to build them up. Go find and comment on those posts written by the people that you would like in your sphere...I have and that is where you will find what you are looking for. 

Have a safe trip! 

Nov 19, 2007 05:37 AM
Jackie Peraza
Perceptions AdverStaging(TM), LLC - Framingham, MA
Home Stager - Framingham, Massachusetts

Sheron - can I just tell you...you could write an awesome blog post with that.

Jackie

Nov 19, 2007 05:43 AM
Jackie Peraza
Perceptions AdverStaging(TM), LLC - Framingham, MA
Home Stager - Framingham, Massachusetts

Jennie- it's really not my role to "chastise" anyone on a blog - though I've seen it done, personally I disagree with it as I believe it leads to encouraging an even greater environment of disrespect.  Rather, you hold a great deal of power in your possession, why not use it?  It's called the delete button. 

Jackie

Nov 19, 2007 05:54 AM
Jennie Norris
Sensational Home Staging - Littleton, CO
Denver Regions Premier Home Staging Resource,
I am finally in! It took me 45 min to get my TREO to responf and pull up the site....and Jackie, thanks for the tip. After letting that blog post linger out there today, I did delete it as there is no point in having that post here. It was good from the standpoint of a demo of what we do not want out there - not just for me but for any AR blogger. - !ennie
Nov 19, 2007 08:53 AM
Craig Schiller
Trempealeau, WI

Jennie...

I would have deleted that comment too, although I would hate to do it. But it needed to be done for it served NO purpose except to be mean. PERIOD. 

But I got to admit when I saw the comment today on this post... my heart sank. These drive by comments do NOTHING but keep this industry small and petty.

Some people seem hell bent on keeping a wound open. There comes a time to move on... it is time. 

I wish you and your family a restful and happy Thanksgiving.

Me

PS: There also is a setting in your AR profile that if you select it will keep Anonomus comments from being allowed to be posted.

Nov 19, 2007 12:31 PM
Jennie Norris
Sensational Home Staging - Littleton, CO
Denver Regions Premier Home Staging Resource,

Hi All,

I appreciate the feedback and agree that it's time to move on -and my post was more about ways to be included and feeling part of something.  I did not know about the anonymous feature - and don't like having to "edit" people - but in this case, it was not something that needed to "hang" out there as it served no purpose.

Have a great Thanksgiving too!

- Jennie

Nov 20, 2007 08:27 AM
Melissa Marro
Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team - Orange Park, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging

Ok, I'll show how true this is by saying that I haven't even read all the comments here.... I have to agree with Susan when she said that your blogs tend to be long.  When I have AR time - most of the time - it is only a few minutes between doing things and when I have to read A LOT then I just click back and move on.  When I do comment I rarely read all the comments for the same reason.

I also would say, I please understand I am NOT ATTACKING YOU when I say this... but you do tend to be a bit defensive too.  This keeps some people from responding.  For instance:  Permanent Lurker - I took them to mean that they lurk as oppose to comment or post themselves because they don't want to LOOK LIKE the kid who was not invited to the party but came anyway.  You took it as they were attacking you. 

I know I have personally commented on several of your posts and you tend to misconstrue my difference of opinion as a personal attack.  When this happens to us, we tend to think twice before we comment & if we aren't going to comment, a lot of times we also don't read.  Again, I'm not trying to be harsh, angry or in any way unpleasant - but you asked and I'm being honest. 

I think most of us really do want to get along and have everyone participate.  I know I certainly do!

Nov 20, 2007 09:32 AM
Karen Dembsky
Peachtree Home Staging LLC, Home Staging in Atlanta, GA - Peachtree City, GA
Atlanta Home Staging

WHoo Hoo -- Sheron is REALLY being a HUGE B I G Sister --- doesn't get any better than that!  Embrace it Jennie, you are in very good hands.  Take your passion (which I love, BTW) and follow a leader!

Sheron, keep being my big sis, okay?  You have cradled me since the beginning and I love you for that, big sis!  Slight problem?  AM I older than you?

 

Nov 20, 2007 10:18 AM
Melissa Marro
Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team - Orange Park, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging
Ok, I still haven't had time to read all the comments, but it appears that the comment I thought was to Permanent Lurker was to another post that was deleted.  (I assumed it was to Lurker as there were no other anon posts above that comment -- this is the problem with not reading all of the posts).  I duly apologize.  I don't change my overall opinion though.... just really bad example... sorry about that!
Nov 20, 2007 10:24 AM
Cindy Lin
Staged4more School of Home Staging - South San Francisco, CA
Host, The Home Staging Show podcast

Oh Jennie! I feel like that all the time on AR! But frankly I think AR just has gotten quite big where there are too many blogs being posted and we drown out each other's blogs. It's not that people don't respond to you, sometimes, people simply don't even see your posts because newer posts keep appearing and pushing yours down. ;( I do miss the old times where there were only a few people on here and everyone knew each other. It was much more intimate. But now there are a lot more stagers, it is also a great thing because we have more of a stronger voice ;)

HUGS & LOVE,

Cindy 

Nov 20, 2007 03:47 PM
Julianna Hind
eXp Realty - Tacoma, WA
REALTOR, 206-679-4768, Tacoma Federal Way, Auburn, Kent, WA

Jennie, I have to let you in on a little online psychology... drama, emotions, friendships, rivalries --EVERYTHING is virtually heightened on a platform like this, so take it all with a grain of salt.

I really try to stay out of the fray with some of the debates on here, but there are some things about the industry I choose to speak about from time to time that may be controversial.

Hopefully, we will all truly be a voice together.

As far as feeling like you are not part of the group, SNAP OUT OF IT! This place would not be the same without you, and we need you here, you are well respected in the industry.

And truthfully, we all feel a little "ignored" from time to time, for heaven's sakes... I'm at 35,000 pts and have never been Mem'ed! ha haha (but shhh! Don't tell, Im kinda busy this week)

 

Julianna

Nov 20, 2007 04:10 PM
Kim Dillon
Creative Eye Home Staging - West Chester, PA

Jeannie,

I think you have to remember that in general, the internet is an impersonal forum.  Unless you know someone personally, they can be anyone they want in this format.  Some people are better with the written word while others are much more effective in person.  I've heard you speak, and you were awesome!  Some of the author's posts I get the most out of and love reading might not be very effective if they were to present them live.  Also, for the longest time, I didn't know you were expected to respond to the posts on your blog! I thought those that did knew the people personally!  I can be a little slow. . . .  Keep contributing--we all have something to say!

Kim Dillon, Creative Eye Home Staging

Nov 20, 2007 11:10 PM
Margaret Ann Innis
Decorate To Sell - Merrimack Valley Real Estate Staging - Andover, MA
Real Estate Staging - MA & NH

Hi Jennie!

Sending you HUGS and wishes for a wonderful Thanksgiving!

Your presence on Stage It Forward is always needed - Sometimes being alone is hard - but we have done harder things (smile)! 

Margaret

PS - Santa rides alone! 

graphic:  stemberry (might be good with chocolate)!

Nov 21, 2007 01:10 AM
Jennie Norris
Sensational Home Staging - Littleton, CO
Denver Regions Premier Home Staging Resource,

Hi All - thanks for your feedback - appreciate your understanding.  I am not here to be defensive and hope that when I stand up for an opposing view I am not defensive - rather just sharing an opposing viewpoint - as many do on this site.  And for length of posts - what can I say? I have a lot to say - sometimes.  I know it can be a lot to wade through - I see lots of lengthy posts.  I guess the key is to put the really important "stuff" up front - so that you get the idea of the post with ease, right?

And I don't expect everyone to ready my blogs - what I do hope is that if someone posts to a blog with a comment or tries to get "in on" a group, they will be welcomed versus overlooked.  I have decided people are not being purposely ignored - but they may be getting overlooked.  Unless I am not on the site to see what you are sharing on one of my postss - I do write back and acknowledge interaction.  That is all I am hoping for. . . .and yet I understand not everyone is like me -and some have sporadic time on here.

Hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Nov 21, 2007 01:22 PM
Melissa Marro
Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team - Orange Park, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging
Julianna - over 40,000 points and still not memed also......
Nov 22, 2007 05:48 AM
Julianna Hind
eXp Realty - Tacoma, WA
REALTOR, 206-679-4768, Tacoma Federal Way, Auburn, Kent, WA

Melissa, And you SO need to be memed. I say bring it on girl!  :-)  perhaps at 40K you can just meme yourself with no apologies. New rule.

Nov 22, 2007 06:20 AM
Nancy Morrish
Stage Tucson! Professional Home Staging - Tucson, AZ
Stage Tucson!

Hi Jennie - I hope that you can tell by all the responses that AR is not as clicky as Junior High. When I first started getting "active" here....  I did feel like an "outsider," but I figured that most people felt that way when they first started.  I ignored that feeling and just pretended I was in the "cool group" and slowly, people have become very familiar.

I try to read your posts when I see them, but to be honest, I read them because I know you personally and like you. If they weren't posted by you.... I might not read some of them because they are quite long. When I'm going over other people's posts.... I'll admit it..... I tend to stay away from the really long ones.  And part of the problem with the longer posts is that people tend to "scan" them and not take in everything and therefore misinterpretation can easily take place.

Hope your Thanksgiving was wonderful!!

Nov 23, 2007 04:31 AM
Maureen Bray Portland OR Home Stager ~ Room Solutions Staging
Room Solutions Staging, Portland OR - Portland, OR
"Staging Consultations that Sell Portland Homes"
Melissa ~ I'll bet everyone just presumed you were already meme'd!  For sure!!  You're one of the best bloggers here....I'd go with Julianna's suggestion.
Nov 23, 2007 05:55 AM
Melissa Marro
Keller Williams First Coast Realty - The Marro Team - Orange Park, FL
Jacksonville Real Estate and Home Staging

I think maybe the meme comments should make Jennie feel a little better... (I hope)... while sometimes it seems we are on the inside of a click - we don't always feel like it.  I sometimes look at the meme's and think to myself... 'how come no one ever meme's me' .... but then I go back to things as usual and realize when someone wants to know is when it will happen. 

Memeing (is that a word?) myself is an option - maybe you should do that - I like things the old fashioned way and will wait until I'm asked.... it reminds me of Romy & Michelle's High School Reunion.  There was always someone who felt inferior to someone else - in all clicks.  It is the circle of life.

Nov 23, 2007 07:06 AM
Jackie Peraza
Perceptions AdverStaging(TM), LLC - Framingham, MA
Home Stager - Framingham, Massachusetts

Melissa- hey, had I known you'd not been Meme'd, I'd have gotten ya'! :)

I think the lesson in that example is sometimes we just assume that everyone else is "on the inside" - excellent post and thread this is.

Jackie

 

Nov 23, 2007 07:38 AM