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Everyone Loves The Calming Sound Of A Gentle Waterfall

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Everyone loves the calming sound of a gentle waterfall - except when it's a plumbing drain!

Frequently the laundry room is in the basement.

And very often, when in the basement, the washing machine drains into the laundry tub.

Looking further, that dark tube on the left is the condensate line from the AC unit in the next room.

The AC condensate tube is drained into a little box, which pumps the water up and into the sink in the next room.

Nothing is wrong with any of that.

Except that the laundry room wasn't always in this location!

The former laundry room location, and drain, was turned into a toilet and sink area, beside a new basement bathroom!

So, what's my beef with this new installation?

Just that the "gray" water from the washing machine, and whatever is put into the laundry tub, drains into the former floor drain for the furnace room!

I did the old smell test.

Yes, you know the one.  I had my client flush the toilet in the bathroom next door and I listened, and smelled, here at this drain.

I heard and smelled nothing untoward.

The unusual white tube stuck in the drain line presented a problem.

If it is tied into the main drain underground I looked and there is no trap so it would be an incorrect installation.

If this drain remains plumbed as it was originally, as a floor drain which sent possible basement water into the storm sewer, it would be similarly incorrect as plumbing is not allowed to send "gray" water into the storm sewers.

It also introduces a lot of moisture into the air inside the house.

My client did ask me how costly I thought it would be to correct this and my answer was an honest "I have no idea."

Perhaps the easiest repair would be to have this laundry tub drain into a pump which sends the water up and into a sanitary drain line near this room.  But really, an experienced plumber would have to look at it to determine the best course of action.

This installation leads me to wonder if there was a permit for the new basement bathroom as the county probably would want to know where the new laundry room would be located.  This arrangement would not have been approved.

My recommendation:  houses are systems.  When one thing is changed, it often demands changes to other aspects of the home.  All those changes must end up meeting code or not affecting other house systems detrimentally.  What initially seems like a good idea or an easy solution to a problem often times is not. 

 

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(56)

Scott Fogleman
New Home Team - Richmond, VA

Jay- Looks like a big ole mess to me! Sounds like the seller may have a costly repair bill on the way..

Aug 05, 2013 05:57 AM
Bill Reddington
Re/max By The Sea - Destin, FL
Destin Florida Real Estate

No basements in my part of Florida. Haven't seen this. Always a new one. Thanks for the info.

Aug 05, 2013 06:11 AM
MichelleCherie Carr Crowe .Just Call. 408-252-8900
Get Results Team...Just Call (408) 252-8900! . DRE #00901962 . Licensed to Sell since 1985 . Altas Realty - San Jose, CA
Family Helping Families Buy & Sell Homes 40+ Years

Ha ha! Yes, people love the soothing sound of a waterfall, but loathe the sound of a plumbing leak.

Aug 05, 2013 06:26 AM
Tamra Lee Ulmer
Arizona Resource Realty - Payson, AZ
NRBA ~FORCE~ Over 1000 REO Assets SOLD!

Jay, you always have such interesting findings and I love reading your Posts. Thank You for another good read! Have a Great Week!

Aug 05, 2013 06:28 AM
Matt Kombrink
One Source Realty - Geneva, IL
Your #1 Source For Real Estate

Great advice, Jay.  It looks like someone handled this themselves and assumed they did it all right.  I'm sure the thought never occured to them.

Aug 05, 2013 07:32 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

It is Scott.  But that's what we run into sometimes!

Bill - basement or not, this could happen on a slab!

Michelle - what, splashing and sloshing onto the floor is not soothing?

Thanks Tamra.  I will and hope you do as well.

Matt - well, openly running water is usually not a good thing!

Aug 05, 2013 07:41 AM
Kathy Schowe
California Lifestyle Realty - La Quinta, CA
La Quinta, California 760-333-8886

That is unbelievable... how could you not notice!  Love your eye-catching title!  Kathy

Aug 05, 2013 09:13 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I needed an eye-catching title, Kathy - it was an eye-catching drain!

Aug 05, 2013 09:35 AM
Brian Sharkey
SharkeyRE LLC - Singer Island, FL
SharkeyRE

Jay, another great post, thanks for the information.

Aug 05, 2013 11:12 AM
Gerard Gilbers
Higher Authority Markeing - Asheboro, NC
Your Marketing Master

Sounds like an item that would have been missed by most people! I love the headline, the article was not what I expected about waterfalls.

Aug 05, 2013 11:27 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Anytime Brian!  Keep stopping by!

Gerard - the idea was to hook you in!

Aug 05, 2013 11:37 AM
David Shamansky
US Mortgages - David Shamansky - Highlands Ranch, CO
Creative, Aggressive & 560 FICO - OK, Colorado Mtg

LMAO this is hilarious. The title got me to read the opening statements got me hooked. TOTALLY agree love the waterfall just not inside the home for an items that SHOULDNT be making that sound

Aug 05, 2013 12:40 PM
Jimmy Faulkner
Florida. Homes Realty & Mortgage - Wantagh, NY
The Best Of St. Augustine

When you touch one thing it will affect other parts of the whole. In housing the water flow is critical and when it is changed, it affects other things. When you change water anywhere, it changes other things. Was the bathroom inspected.

Aug 05, 2013 01:30 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

David - one of those things we run into on a home inspection!  Don't often see it, I have to admit.

Jimmy - I don't know if the county did it to close a permit, but it was sure inspected by me.

Aug 05, 2013 05:58 PM
John F Muscarella
RIVER FARM PROPERTIES, LLC - Venice, FL
Broker/Owner, Venice, FL, Florida's Suncoast

It always amazes me Jay how many things one can find in a home that just makes you wonder who thought of this and how to avoid doing it to code.

Aug 05, 2013 08:35 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Who would not realize that an open drain in and of itself is not to code John?

Aug 05, 2013 08:43 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Now that is special. Free fall and open drain for all to enjoy. 

Aug 06, 2013 11:04 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Do you feel calmed by it Jim?   Being in the room was very zen.

Aug 06, 2013 11:11 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Calming waterfalls and gentle and rhythmic drip drip drip...ahhh "Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain..."...roof, faucet...not a good thing...

Aug 14, 2013 07:46 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Isn't this a hoot S&D?  Good that you can put it to music!

Aug 15, 2013 06:34 PM