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John Occh, Hemet CA REALTOR
http://www.johnocchi.com/
Abe,
Thanks for the post. I have to echo John. Good money management point!
Actually this system was designed to help homeowners pay off their mortgages early. For instance paying down a 30 year mortgage in 12 to 18 years. United First Financial has been holding seminars on this for quite some time now. Allegedly this is a system used outside of the United States for quite some time now. I found too many holes in it to become involved. Although, I know many people that see value in it.
Yes, I understand that. And I don't mean to be picking on you. It is just that the title says "Pay No interest" and that is not accurate. Please accept my appologies if this seems minor to you. I'll leave your blog alone now!
Abe,
I love your attitude. You are open-minded. That is a very good thing! Welcome (again) to the 'Rain. I'll look forward to future posts from you.
Mark
Abe,
A nice tool for those who can make it work. When I first heard the concept it was called an "Australian Mortgage". As Laurie mentioned above, this type of loan has been around for a while outside the US. It works great if a) you have a large, steady paycheck and b) you are disciplined in your spending - I've had customers in the past who definitely couldn't handle having their HELOC merged with their checking account. "How can I be out of money? I still have checks!" Nice post.
I saw this discussed back in '05 on CreditBoards but have yet to jump into it. Perhaps it's a worthwhile route to take. Thanks for sharing.
- Tchaka Owen
http://tchakaowen.blogspot.com/
Abe,
Your statement above, "The thing is, you can then pay all of your regular bills OUT OF that heloc with the debit card and checks that they give you when you open it" is a bit disconcerting. You should at least warn your readers that the banks that offer this product are relying on human nature (the field is called "Behavioral Economics" and the good-side of it has been pioneered by Richard Thayler of the University of Chicago). The banks are relying on the bad side of the same issue.
I'd like to own this bank; and when I do, this is what I'll s to the Board of Directors:
"Our competitors are foolishly paying their depositors interest (on check-writing/debit card-friendly Money Market Accounts), while we have managed to get our depositors to pay us interest on their household obligations, like utility bills, dry cleaning, dining out, and groceries (thanks to having linked our HELOCs to debit cards). For those who manage to never spend more money than they make, even when life-events occur (major, unplanned medical or dental expenses, divorce, car breakdowns, lay-offs, etc.) we won't make much money. However, for all those out there who don't expect these events, our HELOC/MMA account is the perfect vehicle to facilitate their accumulation of excess spending against their income (banks understand much better today HOW people will act/react to financial difficulties because of Behavioral Economics) The excess spending grows their HELOC balance to our benefit; and of course, when this variable-interest rate product goes up, we make all the more profit... "
I'm not necessarily poking holes in your main thesis (that the product may be worthwhile), provided that the bank does not limit your paycheck-deposit spending to $1,950... but you should really look hard at and explain the implications for people who will knowingly or "unknowingly" misuse the product. Banks employ very sophisticated accountants, tax attorneys, and actuaries; they are not offering the product to lose interest (lose profit) that could have been gained on a different product.
JL Eaton
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