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Commissions Paid on REO NET SALES PRICE Arbitration

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Real Estate Agent with REOheaven.com

Business Professionals Play Fighting

REO brokers might be familiar with this encounter.  We have a property listed.  It sells. We open escrow.  Everything runs smooth (in fact one of our more smoother transactions) up until we've CLOSED. That's right, we didn't run into ANY SPEED BUMPS until the escrow CLOSED--and it was my FAVORITE TYPE of DISAGREEMENT--a disagreement on COMMISSION.  Can you say, "Arbitration?"

With REO properties the sellers--the BANKS--will always PAY COMMISSIONS BASED on NET SALES (the sales price MINUS ANY CONCESSIONS ie., repairs, credit backs etc.)

As REO Brokers WE CANNOT ASSUME that this is SPELLED out in the BANK OWNED ADDENDUMS.  These addendums are written up by attorney's DEFENDING THE BANKS--NOT us as agents.  Which is FINE.  It is our responsibility to defend ourselves here people--WE ARE ALL ADULTS.  I'm not bashing the banks.  I don't bite the hand that feeds me.

Therefore I have had to draft up my own addendum specifically clarifying this AND I've had to add this to my private MLS remarks as well.  My personal REOheaven Addendum is NOW required WITH EVERY OFFER SUBMITTED. This addendum can be found @ http://addendum.reoheaven.com

After we closed escrow and prior to mailing out closing statements the escrow co. emailed the selling agent and I revised commission agreements which reflected the commissions being adjusted AFTER the concessions were made.

Needless to say, the selling agent made a HUGE FUSS over a difference of about $500.00 on a $10,500.00 commission check.  In the grand scheme of things I would have probably let it go, BUT I also see the priciple.  I MISTAKENLY assumed that this clarification on the commission was on the bank addendum and I advised the selling agent to review one more time.  As it wasn't there the burden of proof was now on my shoulder.

To make a long story short, we agreed to disagree.  I still don't know where this one is headed.  I'll keep everyone posted.

Bill Nazur
First Lending Solutions - Riverside, CA

Excellent on your part for negotiating the commission as part of your addendum. I've preached this to several agents over the last 3 years, yet they feel beholden to accepting whatever is thrown their way. I always imagined professionals were better than that......

Sep 05, 2009 06:05 AM
Vic Steele
Vic Steele, Broker CA DRE 01349863 - Anaheim Hills, CA
Broker/Consultant

Paul, you make a great point; it's only $500.  Admit the reasonable error and offer to split it with the selling agent.  If that doesn't work, it's only $500.  Tell him you are paying him that in the spirit of maintaining a great business relationship.  Like you said, the escrow had no speed bumps.  You want to work with that agent again.  Preserve the relationship with only $500 Paul.

Now institute an office policy that your Commission Addendum is a part of every escrow.

Best of luck!

Sep 05, 2009 06:07 AM
Richard Dolbeare
Inactive - Wailuku, HI
Living the Hawaii Lifestyle

A co-op commission to other brokerages is whatever is offered in the MLS so that is the key place to make sure it's specified correctly.  What I see in my market is a sentence in MLS that says (in effect) actual commissions must be approved by the bank and the amount approved will be split 50/50.

Sep 05, 2009 06:50 AM
AJ Heidmann ~ CRS
McEnearney Associates, Inc. - Alexandria, VA
YOUR Alexandria & Arlington, VA Real Estate Expert

Here in our MLS, the percentage or dollar amount stated in the listing is the unconditional offer of compensation.  Regardless of any verbiage included in the agent remarks field or the inclusion of the word NET after the percentage.  A fellow agent serves on the arbitration committee and the listing agent gets no credit for putting any of these variations in.

Too bad, the money ends up coming out of the listing agent's pocket and not from the bank.

Sep 06, 2009 01:41 AM
Julie A. Black
KAUAI DREAMS REALTY Kauai Real Property Specialist - Kapaa, HI
CLHMS, CRS, GRI, Realtor, Broker

What Richard didn't mention above is that our MLS also has a box to check Variable rate commission. This puts the other Realtors on notice that the commissions are subject to change. I usually check this box on most my REO listings due to commissions being paid on net sales prices. 

Sep 06, 2009 05:19 PM
AJ Heidmann ~ CRS
McEnearney Associates, Inc. - Alexandria, VA
YOUR Alexandria & Arlington, VA Real Estate Expert

In our MLS, the variable commission rate is only applicable if the listing agreement has a lower percentage paid out if the listing agent also produces the buyer under dual agency or as a customer.  It doesn't apply to these other situations, though many agents believe it does.

Sep 07, 2009 02:02 AM
Linda DeVlieg
Keller Williams Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque Real Estate

Julie, you might check your definition of VARIABLE - but in our area this term ONLY means that the commission is less if the listing broker sells the property to their own buyer, it doesn't refer to whether the commissions are subject to change - remember according to NAR compensation is UNCONDITIONAL - whatever is offered, i.e. bonuses, selling office compensation - cannot change from what is offered in MLS for any reason.

Sep 13, 2009 09:39 AM
Eric Egeland
RE/MAX SUBURBAN - Libertyville, IL
SFR, e-PRO, CDPE

Thanks for the post Paul.

Personally I always note in the agent marks for distressed properties that commission is based on the net price.

Hope it works out for you.

Sep 17, 2009 11:58 PM