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Beyond The Mess

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408

One of my favorite bloggers, Patricia Kennedy, posted Listing From Hell? Not Necessarily. Very well written blog, read it and you will not regret.

It reminded me another story, somewhat weird, but we do not choose the stories, we only choose whether to tell them.

The Seller of a condo-hotel studio in the Fountain Beach Resort put it for sale for $50K. He had a tenant. The arrangement was that if the tenant was at home, we could call him, give him 10-15 minutes and then show. The tenant never said "no" so that was not the problem.

MessThe problem was that when I would come with people to show it to them, it looked like the tenant used the 15 minutes to create as much mess as he could and leave just before we walk in. It was difficult to find space on the floor to put your foot. Clothes was laid all over the floor, the never made bed and everywhere else.

There wold often be unflushed toilet, leftovers of yesterday pizza... You get the picture.

It was the best price i the resort and we could not sell it. No matter how we tried to prepare prospects, they could never see beyond the mess.

One sunny Florida day I had a couple of retired newlyweds (that's true, they were not young kids, but they were deeply in love as if this was the first wedding for them). They saw the sign and the lure of an incredibly low price (which fell since then even lower), brought them in.

I did the routine, explained that they should look "beyond the mess", and they smiled and said "Sure, we understand". I called and try to insist that we come right away, hoping not to give him time to create all this mess, but he said "10 minutes, please" so we went upstairs exactly in ten minutes. I opened the door, they walked in... tried to walk in, and then the lady stormed out with a face, that was very unflattering at best. She was also loudly expressing her unflattering remarks in a foreign language (also unflattering, if not plain foul), which happened to be Russian.

How could I even dare to show them THAT? Well, what about looking beyond? Yes, but not THAT...

Anyway, the newlywed ended up buying a terrific luxury 3 bdr residential oceanview condo for just over $500,000. Good this was brand new and there were no tenants.

The tenant in the studio did not last long anyway, Someone managed to look beyond... or simply not notice the mess altogether. He happened to be a single guy.

Elite Home Sales Team
Elite Home Sales Team OC - Corona del Mar, CA
A Tenacious and Skilled Real Estate Team

Oh yea we have all had that client at one time or another.

Feb 21, 2010 05:24 PM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

I do try to warn people of what we are going into, but I think when they are so focused on a price they don't hear you!

Pretty funny, but all in all you certainly made out in the end.

Feb 21, 2010 10:03 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Jon,

It constantly amazes me what many people get use to living in! I'll bet that is the way that tenant lived and did not feel any need to change for "lookers" coming. Thanks for the nudge to check out Pat's post..you were right it was well written and I enjoyed her post also.

Feb 21, 2010 10:24 PM
Laura Sargent
Carolina One Real Estate - Mount Pleasant, SC

People think they are buying everything they are seeing and no one wants to buy dirty toilets and yesterday's pizza.  How cool that you got the great sale out of that listing!

Feb 21, 2010 10:44 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Virginia - I went to your "old" blog and left a comment there. Well written, very well for a novice at the time.

And very funny the way we see some things after they were absolutely not funny when happening to us

Feb 22, 2010 12:13 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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John - actually a great idea. It could be trickier for me as those all were walk-ins, so leaving them for another 10 minutes wile I flush the toilet and clean up the space enough for clients to get tothe balcony

Feb 22, 2010 12:15 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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John - this happens more often than not. And telling clients that they are not buying all the crap, and all it takes is just general cleaning does not usually work.

Feb 22, 2010 12:17 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Robert - the tenant was an employee of the Seller, and both did not see a problem there. They were very well adapted and saw "beyond" (LOL)

Feb 22, 2010 12:18 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Mark & Tim - sure. It is very common. That's why staging can be so successful. We have feeling towards properties. Staging is helping form a positive perception, while mess does just the opposite

Feb 22, 2010 12:21 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Andrea - my clients would not have bought there anyway. It was not the right place for them, but hey, the lure of $50K vs $500K...

And still a hope that it could be the right place just for 10% of the price

Feb 22, 2010 12:22 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Good morning Dorie - I am also surprised that they are simply not ashamed enough to somehow clean before showing.

I still do not know whether it would have been even worse, if I storm the door without warning. I am not sure it could have been worse

Feb 22, 2010 12:25 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Laura - it is all about the way we perceive things. For majority of people it is difficult to see beyond. It maybe less for me than for my wife, but it will still affect me. That's why fixer uppers are not for me. I need to see everything done.

Feb 22, 2010 12:27 AM
Barbara S. Duncan
RE/MAX Advantage - Searcy, AR
GRI, e-PRO, Executive Broker, Searcy AR

I had a house one time that I tried to make apologies for because it was so bad.  I learned a lesson.  Some people live just like that and might have their feelings hurt when you ridicule the look.  My listing sold to some people who didn't even notice the mess and moved in with it looking just like it always had.  We need to be careful what we say when we show homes.

Feb 22, 2010 11:48 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Barbara - it really might be a delicate thing, you are right. No winning here

Feb 22, 2010 03:09 PM
John Cannata
214-728-0449 http://TexasLoanGuy.com - Frisco, TX
Texas Home Mortgage - Purchase or Refinance

My goodness, if the seller did not want to sell the home then why bother putting it on the market? Its much easier than sabotaging your house.

Feb 23, 2010 06:48 AM
Al & Peggy Cunningham, Brokers
RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage - Brampton, ON
Our Family Wants To Help Your Family!

Wow, well at least you got a good sale out of that showing, but yes as someone says, maybe that tenant did live that way however like you said they certainly made use of that 15 minutes and obviously it wasn't to clean up.  Sounds like a great place to be featured on that tv show 'Hoarders' LOL 

Feb 24, 2010 10:23 AM
Lisa Hill
Florida Property Experts - Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Beach Real Estate

LOL that a single guy didn't care about the mess. But that tenant was pretty creative in his shenanigans! Although I probably would have told him off on several occasions >.<

Feb 24, 2010 10:37 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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John - not that he did  not want to sell the condo unit, he did. He simply did not see any problem with that mess. Then, also, I am not sure he understoof that what we saw was worse than what he thught it was.

I know that some owenrs are so glued to the idea of renting, that they really can hurt themselves, but would keep renting

Feb 24, 2010 10:52 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Al & Peggy - I can't complain (LOL). And as I said, finally there was someone who did not care about the mess, or, better say, knew that they will clean it up, and it will be a good unit, and a good deal.

Feb 24, 2010 10:55 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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Lisa - it was my assumption simply because taking time and leaving it the way he did did not really sum up. And that;s why I thought he was trying to fend off potential buyers and stay there. As i said, he worked for the Landlord, and quite possible did not have to pay a penny.

Maybe this was his was of anti-marketing campaign?

Feb 24, 2010 10:57 AM