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Spend, Buy And Purchase For Tomorrow We Die!

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"Times has been (sic) good" and I will testify to it. Truly, deals fell out of the trees from about 2002 until mid to late 2006. "Hello sir/ma'am, please breathe on this mirror and if we see some fog ... sign here and get the keys."

How do we survive on this forced fast of "sorry, we no longer offer that program"? Simple! We adapt and adjust just like we used to do! Homes are still being purchased, I know - we're closing almost all purchase loans ... about 15 per month. Loans are still available and it's not your fault the national mentality was, "Spend, buy and purchase for tomorrow we die!" 

GUILTY! GUILTY AS CHARGED!!!

I facilitated a percentage of the "problem" we have today. I facilitated the ability for people to participate in The American Dream who never would have had that opportunity elsewise. Had we not listened to the cries and accusations that "the bankers are holding back the underserved market". Yes! I did! I helped people purchase a home who would never been able to do so without sub-prime mortgages!

And guess what?

95% of them are still in those homes making their mortgage payments!

THEY ARE HOMEOWNERS! Building equity, paying property taxes (in the states where that applies), voting because they now care who represents them, paying school taxes, feeling like Real Americans instead of second class citizens.

GUILTY AS CHARGED!

Did I profit from my efforts? You're damn right I did! I worked HARD and invested my own cash to tell people what WAS available to them. Did I "stick them in loans they couldn't handle"? Evidently not!

Even if our default rate matched the national average of 14% (of subprime loans) that would mean that 86% of those borrowers either purchased investment properties or primary residences that would not otherwise have been able to do so.

LET IT BE KNOWN that I am not naive, I do understand that some lenders put borrowers into subprime loans who should have been in conforming loans. I know that. But not all of us followed that pathway.

WE NEED A HERO

Someone has billions of dollars to put into the market. Someone understands that front-loaded interest and a 14% fallout ratio (of which a major percentage can be recovered) is still a fantastic ROI will turn their billions into multiple billions.

Ah, it's the tsunami I wrote about a few months ago. The only problem is all the people who can and should are frozen by fear.

FEAR. Pass the doughnuts, I think I'll work on my figure. 

Bottom line ... I have previously blogged about King Cash returning to the throne. That day is no longer coming, it is here. The hiccup is that most of our borrowers are "cash strapped" which is a nice way of saying "leveraged to the eyeballs". I really agree with the term "credit crunch" because we have continually rewarded people for having bad financial habits and etiquette. 

WE'RE ALL GUILTY

It is a season of help, a time of reckoning. We screwed up collectively. I have the answer and so do most of you but it will not likely be heeded. Instead of crying on each other's shoulders we must do what we can do. Offer great care and concern for our family of clients. Provide services better than we would expect for ourselves and, most of all, be forthright and honest in all of our statements and actions.

The End ... No, it's The Beginning

(Nationwide 85% of people who "didn't deserve that loan" are still making their payment on time and glad to own that piece of The American Dream. Furthermore 56% of those who are in adjustable rate loans can easily qualify for a conforming refinance with a fixed rate mortgage. Yet they are frozen ... by fear.) 

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Comments(15)

Brian Brumpton
Keller Williams Boise - Boise, ID
Boise Idaho Real Estate

So is it OK that people were sold into mortgages they really couldn't afford.  And what's so great about 85% of people still making a payment if they are falling behind on others?  That cost still comes back to bite us in other ways.  Yes, they have a piece of the American Dream but there is the 30% you left out who can't refinance and it's only a matter of time until that suicide loan makes it's call.

Sep 12, 2007 04:01 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!
Ken-Congratulations on your feature. Great post. I am one of those people who did not 'deserve' a loan and needed a home. My credit mess was from a nasty divorce. I take responsibility for my part but I did not need to be punished for his part. I wrote a featured post, My personal story about Stated Income Loans. It was also picked up and posted by other mortgage people outside of Active Rain, oh, I still make my payments. Katerina
Sep 12, 2007 06:26 PM
Sean Rafferty
YourPersonalMortgagePlanner.com - San Jose, CA

Ken, good points about trying to point out that it's not ALL doom and gloom for subprime bwrs.

Brian, no, it's NOT ok to put someone into a loan one KNOWS they can't afford. 

Stated loans which are inflated loans are liar loans and lying is unethical.  Unless an asset dissipation equation is taken into place to derive a stated income which is greater than their income - which 99.9% wouldn't be the case because most people who went stated hardly had 2 months PITI to verify! ...thus the invention of stated assets to boot! - or for self employed borrower whose "real" income is greater than what's reported on his tax returns, then stated loans should only be used when the borrower or the originator is to lazy to go through the work neccessary to produce or process the documentation (unless of course one gets the stated uplift for free after running through AU/eMagic/DU/LP/etc).

Let's face it, investors are sick of buying liar/liar paper - their appetite for risk has been sucked out by the defaults.

And Brian, what's considered acceptable default range is 1% overall - market's currently at 5.75% and it's only going to get worse as there is still $800 BILLION in subprime alone to reset over next 13 months.  That's bad and we ought not make light of it.

Sep 12, 2007 07:17 PM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

Brian - it certainly seems you found all the negatives to emphasize. We are all painfully aware that there are people who will simply never apply good financial management principles and the rarer set of people who life deals a seemingly insurmountable set of obstacles. I am a HUGE proponent of forced education for (a) new homeowners and (b) people with an unstable credit history which would not completely cure the issue but would help. Yes, absolutely there were and ARE people in the mortgage business who are pure scum and pieces of trash I would not spit on if their hair was on fire. There are also a blue ton of those who call themselves "real estate professionals". Obviously you and I do not fall into that category but to throw Katerina into the lump of people who "did not deserve a home loan" would be an injustice. The combination of unsophisticated and naive borrowers couple with scum of the earth loan officers and lenders who let them, often rewarded them, is a crime. I hear stories about how people who used to work at Argent or Homeowners used to really stick it to people and cram them into mortgages they KNEW the borrower couldn't handle and it makes me sick. I am a small lender in a small community and if we played that way we wouldn't be around anymore. You know what? I used two subprime loans myself in the past and used them exactly the way they were intended. And now I have an evil Payment Option ARM and use it, also, the way it was intended.

Katerina - thank you for adding that. In the majority of cases it is about personal responsibility and not "a horrible loan". I've said it a thousand times and will keep saying it - lenders and bankers were long accused of "holding down the little people" by not allowing them to have access to mortgages. Well, we capitulated. We let almost everyone have a shot at it. You see, Katerina, everytime you try to help a group of people you get that certain portion which ruins it for the rest.

Sean - Great points and let's remember default doesn't mean foreclosure. Also not sure about the "acceptable range" I suppose that depends on perspective. 1% default isn't very acceptable to me as a lender but as an investor I could still profit with a 20% plus default range on semi-matured mortgages (24 months or more). 

Sep 13, 2007 12:27 AM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time
Very well stated Ken. There are many folks who had used easy financing to achieve the American dream and were successful. My market was subprime territory big time. I sold quite a few houses last year for young couples who had bought 2 years earlier with zero down and were able to walk away at closing with 50+ in that short period of time. BUT right now 25% of my personal listings are in some stage of foreclosure. It's getting real ugly real quick in Poinciana Fl.
Sep 13, 2007 12:58 AM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator
Bryant - I hope you can close on those deals favorably to everyone and if I can help you know I will. As an industry insider you are truly seeing the ugly side. I think when people read truthful statements like yours their linear brain thinks, "Wow, 25% of the homes in Poinciana are in foreclosure!" When actually what you said was, "25% of your listings are in some stage of foreclosure". That's still horrible and I truly feel for those people who are at least in the default category. It's a tough time in America again. We all need to roll up our sleeves and dig out of this mess together. 
Sep 13, 2007 01:37 AM
Aziz Abdur-Raoof
RE/MAX Rewards - Columbia, MD
Howard Co. Real Estate Scoop
Ken - good posts and yes we needto work together to dig ut of this mess as you said.  Thxs for being a leader in the industry.
Sep 13, 2007 02:44 AM
Eric Kodner
Madeline Island Realty - La Pointe, WI
CRS, Madeline Island Realty, LaPointe, WI 54850 -

End lenders want a perfect world with zero per cent default rates.  They want borrowers with perfect FICO scores.  They want loan applications that show zero debt and huge savings.  Like the man said, "a banker will lend you an umbrella when the sun's shining and ask for it back when it starts to rain".

The world isn't perfect.  In hell, everybody wants ice water.

Sep 13, 2007 04:48 AM
Leigh Brown
Leigh Brown & Associates, RE/MAX Executive - Charlotte, NC
CEO, Dream Maker - Charlotte, NC
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.  I think you're right on target though, that some brilliant investor is going to come in and fund all these middle loans that aren't happening right now-and make a fortune-and rightfully so.
Sep 13, 2007 05:47 AM
Joshua Talayka
Chase Internatinonal - Reno, NV
great post.         
Sep 13, 2007 09:35 AM
Chris Lengquist
Ad Astra Realty - Olathe, KS
Kansas City Real Estate Investing

The Truth?  You want the truth?  You can't handle the truth! 

Nicely done.  I've helped quite a few people who utilized subprime loans.  I'm happy and arrogant to say that to the best of my knowledge they are still in their homes and up to date.  One has been wildly successful in their rebuild since bankruptcy two years prior to buying their first home.  Those stories make some of the hassel worth it!

Sep 13, 2007 10:27 AM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

Aziz - I'm just one very vocal member - thank you for your comment!

Eric - I'd kind of like that myself but it's just not reality as you stated, the world is not perfect!

Leigh - Come on, I know you've got a few billion you can invest in my plan!

Joshua - Great comment.

Chris - I love it! You're right, some people will not even hear the truth. They just deny it and believe everything the media shoves down their gullet.  

Sep 13, 2007 12:41 PM
Anonymous
annon
"American dream"??..   Just a house dude...  Just a plain ole overpriced house. It is not a dream anymore, just an overpriced asset..   Be very careful what you write ..  That 85 percent you are boasting about now will only be if you are lucky 20 percent next year.  The rest will be in court trying to sue you, the bank and the mortgage broker.  It amazes me no one on this board is talking about the liability all of you share over the next 2 years..   Again..  be careful what you write it can be used against you in a court of law..
Sep 13, 2007 06:17 PM
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Donna Yates
BHGRE - Metro Brokers - Blue Ridge, GA
Blue Ridge Mountains

Ken:  I think you make good points.  But what kind of attitude is "just a house dude".  Maybe that's the problem, the buyers who are in these loans they can't afford, at the time had the same attitude, "just a loan dude".  As a Reator, I try to guide my buyers to the very best of my ability and refer them to very reputable people.  I do not force them to buy a house, make a loan or even hold a gun to their head to sign anything.  They make their own decisions but there's always those folk who just have blame someone else and never admit their own personal accountability.

Sep 15, 2007 07:30 AM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator
Donna - I never pay much attention to what anonymous posters say but because you pointed out one absurd statement let's look at a couple of others she made. If you'll notice they never (rarely) leave any facts and spew only accusations and empty threats. Such as " it can be used against you in a court of law". Oh, the fact that I followed better lending practices? That only 5 out of some 400+ subprime loans I issued went into default and those were all real estate investors? The fact that I have advertised FREE mortgage 101 or whatever you want to call it classes for 7 years and have seen less than a HANDFUL of borrowers interested enough to participate? The fact that we NEVER charged more fees to a subprime borrower than we did an "A" paper borrower? No, we made sure people really wanted the opportunity to own a home and had the demonstrated ability to make their payments. Sorry annon, you're threatening the wrong lender. You need to vent your anger on Countrywide, Wells Fargo, Ameriquest and Homeowners. Here you go Donna, notice how absurd this statement annon puked up on us sounds, "That 85 percent you are boasting about now will only be if you are lucky 20 percent next year. " People like her are part of the problem, do not offer a solution and in fact do not want a solution. They are un-American and want chaos and terror. Probably a journalist.
Sep 16, 2007 04:04 AM