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Something to think on: My brief encounter with an underwater homeowner

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Real Estate Agent with CENTURY 21 Award

Head in the sand

Recently, I met a gentleman in one of the neighborhoods that I work in. As I approach his house to deliver an open house invitation for a home in the neighborhood his body language was noticeably guarded. He more barked his question, rather than asked me how he could help me. Since I’m in this particular neighborhood often I’m familiar with the public records, including the NOD’s (notice of defaults) and auction homes. So I knew this homeowner was in default on his mortgage and had been for about a year.

 

[Side note: I don’t openly share this knowledge during casual conversation. The last thing I wish to do is insult a homeowner or make them think I’m some kind of stalker real estate agent. But, I do make sure I’m aware of market conditions in the neighborhoods where I work.]

 

I stretched out my hand to give him the benign open house invitation and he relaxed as he realized I was not there to “convince” him to sell his house, or remind him how miserable his life must be since he hadn’t been paying his mortgage. Reading his body language as I approached, I can only imagine how inundated with Realtor letters and drop-by’s he must have been over the past year. We made a little small talk and he asked me a few questions about the house I was holding open; thanked me and I went on my way.

 

Although our exchange was brief, as I continued to walk the neighborhood I thought about him and his situation. I wondered if he ever bothered to read the information that the other Realtors had been leaving him or if they went immediately into the trash. I wondered if he knew that time is running out to short sale his home without the worry of a huge tax bill or a deficiency judgment in California. I wondered if he even knew that he had more than half a dozen alternatives to foreclosure.

 

He is not unlike so many other homeowners. No one likes to deal with devastating financial crises, but ignoring it only makes it worse. From his initial body language, I could tell that he was not open to hearing what a Realtor had to say, but I admit it makes me sad to see this. Because, I can see he’s probably heading down a deep and dark financial path that maybe could have been avoided or at minimum, lessened. A head in the ground is not a financial strategy, yet I see a lot of homeowners using it as their financial action plan of choice.

 

I tell this story in hopes that it will encourage a homeowner in this position to at least look into their potential options. There are tax protections in place right now that make it possible to short sale a home without paying taxes on hundreds of thousands of dollars in forgiven debt. Also, in California there is a new law in place protecting certain homeowners from a deficiency judgment from second lien holders. But, both of these protections will expire. It takes time to sell a house in a short sale, so don’t plan to leave it until the last moment when the auctioneer is knocking at your back door. Here is a sample timeline of a short sale.

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Valarie Swanson
REALTOR®
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Century 21 Award


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Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

Valarie, for some people that have made bad decisions, and maybe some of them with the assistance of a professional, making another financial decision is just overwhelming, and they would rather just ride the wave and see how it developes. It is difficult to walk away but some times it's all we can do.

Sep 21, 2011 12:10 AM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Valerie,. Good post. Congratulations on the feature. Your clients are fortunate to be working with you. Good luck.

Sep 21, 2011 12:22 AM
Howard and Susan Meyers
The Hudson Company Winnetka and North Shore - Winnetka, IL

Excellent post Valerie.  So many underwater homeowners are frozen in their tracks because they are so intimidated by what is happening to them.They often feel that they are all alone and do not have any idea where to turn.

The statistic that we find most disturbing is that approximately 22-24% of people in the United States who have mortgages, are under water.  This number has held pretty steady over the past few years.  As homes move into foreclosure, new underwater homeowners replace them on this list. 

Sep 21, 2011 12:48 AM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Great post Valerie, most home owners put themselves in a bubble and hope it works itself out which is the worst thing they can do, i tell so many people every week what their options are and if half of them had not waited so long, there would be more options open to them.

Sep 21, 2011 01:26 AM
Rob Spinosa
US Bank - Larkspur, CA
Mortgage Loan Originator, Marin County

Great post and good timing.  One of the sentiments that the "head in the sand" crowd shares is this remote notion that there will be some kind of bailout strategy that will come riding over the hill at the last moment and restore their situations.  Yet four years into this real estate economy you would think this logic would be dissipating.  The reason I say "good timing" is because today we'll get another Fed statement that will give us more direction on the economy.  Will they indeed do something equivalent to bailing out a segment of the economy?  Nobody is sure, but again simply holding out the hope is what a lot of the people you describe above are most receptive to.  In political parlance it's known as "moral hazard."  In the real world, we describe it as you just did above.

Sep 21, 2011 01:45 AM
Cheryl Thomson REALTOR Ret Army
United Real Estate DC Metro Region (703.216.5635) cheryltee47@gmail.com - Prince William, VA
Associate Broker in Northern Virginia

Hi Valerie.  My heart goes out to the homeowner, it really does.  If approaches to him were more like yours it would make life easier for all of us.  Its hard letting go of the emotional aspect of probably losing your home.  His pride unfortunately wins at the end of the day.  Many hold on to the very end hoping a fix is coming.  Great blog.

Sep 21, 2011 02:19 AM
Erika Madsen
eXp Realty - Mesa, AZ
eXp Realty Broker ~ CE Instructor ~ elm Biz De

You are RIGHT on the money! Very well said.

Sep 21, 2011 02:54 AM
Ann Cordes
Century 21 Randall Morris and Associates, Waco - Waco, TX
Home Ownership is Not a Distant Dream

Valerie,

 

The Scarlett O'Hara strategy of "I'll think about it tomorrow." never works. You have to face the problem instead of running away like this homeowner is doing. And like you said, the longer he waits, the fewer options he's going to have.

 

Sep 21, 2011 03:38 AM
Bob Zorechak - ABR, GRI, e-PRO
Keller Williams Realty Metropolitan - Morristown, NJ
Sells Homes in Morris/Somerset/Hunterdon Cos., NJ

You are so right.  Did you ever consider circling back with him another day to see if he would be open to a conversation?  It mght be worth a try.

Sep 21, 2011 05:32 AM
Valarie Swanson
CENTURY 21 Award - San Diego, CA
San Diego Real Estate

Well, I am thrilled! I’ve only been blogging as a Rainmaker for about a week and already I’ve been featured. I think I’m hooked on ActiveRain and I’m wondering what took me so long.

Tish: Thank you! I am honored.

Richard: On the encouragement of another agent, I one time sent out about a dozen letters to underwater homeowners and I felt nauseous. That was a couple of years ago. I will NEVER do that again.

Anthony: Thank you. I’m glad you got something from my story.

Janine: I agree. I would like to NAR help educate homeowners. Trust is a huge factor.

Fernando: I don’t think you’re alone.

Ed: You’re right. You can only help those that wish to be helped. I know it’s overwhelming. I think most everyone has experienced financial trouble at one time or another. It affects your whole life and even your health.

Gita: Thank you. I really appreciate your kind words.

Howard & Susan: I did not know this statistic. It’s staggering!

Scott: So true. The options dwindle quickly as time goes on. Not to mention the potential of success once the home owner selects an option.

Rob: What a great comment. I wish I could highlight it somehow. You hear this sentiment a lot, whether or not it’s said directly. In another post of mine, Beat the clock – Short sale sellers tick down to December 2012, we were talking about the end of the Federal Mortgage Debt Forgiveness Act and whether or not that will get extended past the end of 2012.

Cheryl, Erika & Ann: It’s an emotional roller coaster, I’m sure.

Bob: I’ve seen him on other occasions and he’s avoided all eye contact. He’s got his plan.

Sep 21, 2011 05:50 AM
Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi valerie,  Very nicely done.  It is amazing how so many distressed home owners wait until many options have run the clock.

Sep 21, 2011 05:58 AM
Pam Graham
All Real Estate Options - Jacksonville, FL
Jacksonville, Clay & St Johns Counties

I think homeowners just get to the point of enough is enough and they don't care what happens, they just want it done, even if that means a foreclosure. If some of them try to do a loan mod with no success, they don't feel too confident that the lender will do a short sale without the same headaches. It does sound like he has a plan and no agent is going to change his mind.

Sep 21, 2011 07:02 AM
Lisa Dunham
Alexandria, VA
Associate Broker, Alexandria Virginia Real Estate

Great post Valarie!  I hope your encounter will be an encouraging factor to homeowners who may be faced with the same scenario.

Sep 21, 2011 07:57 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Valarie, in this situation the photo says it all. Hopefully, he will come around before it is too late.

Sep 21, 2011 08:09 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Valarie nice post and feature.  Good information and a very difficult place to be for anyone.  So much that tags along with being underwater, embarrassment, feeling of failure, fear, anger all sorts of emotions and people do not always think clearly when in this position. I hope you will be able to be of help to him you would serve him well, too many people who are so overwhelmed at the prospect and the questions of where will I go to live, and now what.  Ugly no matter what side of the fence you are on, and blame should never be part of the process.

Sep 21, 2011 08:31 AM
Charlie Dresen
The Group, Inc - Steamboat Springs, CO
Steamboat Springs, CO e-Pro

Hi Valarie, Great post and great insights. Some people just have to figure it out themselves or suffer the consequences. There are plenty of people open to advice and help, and I'm sure you'll be a great resource to anyone who approaches you. Give your energy to those folks, because unfortunately it's time wasted on those who don't want to hear it.

Sep 21, 2011 09:58 AM
Mary Hutchison, SRES, ABR
Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate-Kansas City Homes - Kansas City, MO
Experienced Agent in Kansas City Metro area

There is help for people in these situations, unfortunately it isn't easy to navigate.  Time time time and paperwork, dealing with govt and banks...I wouldn't want to do it!  Also I think many people are just to proud and/or are in denial about the situation. 

Sep 22, 2011 02:30 AM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

Hello Valarie and what a wonderful post, congrats on your feature from THE GODS and you post as also been featured at one of my favorite groups at AR ...

CALIFORNIA DREAMING

   

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Vegas Bob ;o)

Sep 22, 2011 12:01 PM
Valarie Swanson
CENTURY 21 Award - San Diego, CA
San Diego Real Estate

Thank you for sharing in the conversation. There is a running theme of compassion in all of the comments here.

Bob: Your comment made me laugh. You're so right. I don't understand how posts get featured or don't. It has to be the AR GODS.

Sep 22, 2011 04:50 PM
Robert Vegas Bob Swetz
Las Vegas, NV

Hello again Valarie and you are very welcome ...

VB ;o)

Oct 03, 2011 05:18 AM