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believe File this under "HARD TO BELIEVE" (but true!)

 

 

Do you have a Home Equity Line of Credit on your home? 

How about on your rental home? 

A HELOC can be a great way to tap into your home's equity.  A HELOC is based on the Prime Rate.  Some banks offer the ability to "fix" a portion of what you borrow at a specified rate.  Remember, with a HELOC your payment is based on what you have borrowed not your limit. 

 

 

thin_ice Are you getting ready to start on that kitchen remodel?
Already picked out the appliances?
The Contractor is coming on Monday and wants a check for half?
No problem - Your HELOC gave you a Checkbook and a Debit Card.

 Good for you!

Oh, you already have a HELOC?
You've had it for a couple of years now?
Always make your payments on time?
Even paid more towards the principal?

 Good for you!

helocsignWell it turns out that due to deteriorating market conditions, declining home values, uncertain issues in the securities division, blah, blah blah...

We at "Guppy's Seafood and Lending" have just decided to FREEZE your HELOC!
We're sorry. Keep making the payments you've been making, we like that - but we're not lending you anymore money.
Cut up that Debit VISA Card we gave you.
Shred the book of Checks we sent you.
We just don't want to play anymore.

They can't do that can they?


Yes they can.  In fact they are doing it!  It isn't a matter of a little bank (like Guppy's) that's on the verge of going out of business. 

Chase, (part of the 1.4 billion dollar JP Morgan company)  is freezing HELOC accounts right now.  Not to all borrowers, but those that they have determined are risky. 

So if the homes in your area have declined in value - don't count on having that $100,000 Equity Line available.  It might not be there when you want it.

Comments(16)

Courtney Cooper
Cooper Jacobs - Seattle, WA
206-850-8841
Wow - I never would have thought, but then again, I guess that is just how it is going...  Thanks for the info, Mike..
Nov 19, 2007 01:29 AM
Lisa Bosques
Burien, WA
Glad to have this information, scary as it is. Thanks for sharing.
Nov 19, 2007 01:31 AM
Linda Scanlan
A Fan of AR - Burleson, TX

Mike, how very sad for the people this is happening to! My goodness...it's a shame that people can't back up what they advertise.

Nov 19, 2007 01:34 AM
Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

Mike,

The point is, there isn't enough Equity anymore, and Seconds are considered Dangerous right now. These Banks are the Problem! and they Know it. They solicited Business at any expense, and now their Folding under Pressure.

Tom Weiss

Nov 19, 2007 01:37 AM
Robert Hammerstein -
Christie's International Real Estate - Hillsdale, NJ
Bergen County NJ Real Estate

Hi Mike,

Excellent advice that we are glad to pass on to our customers.  We are the professionals that are here to offer information - be it bad or good! 

Nov 19, 2007 01:42 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Courtney  - Thanks for the visit.

Lisa - Now you know.

Linda - It's actually been an option for a while.  I had a client who "forgot" to make a payment a couple of years ago.  He caught back up the next month but it was too late - they froze him.

Tom - It is in part equity (or lack of it) as well as market conditions.  BTW today is the last day to submit a SIVA HELOC to a certain very large bank.  Today it looks like this - tomorrow it's gone - period!

 

SIVA highlights:

  • 700+ FICO (primary wage earner)
  • Primary Borrower Must be S/E
  • 89.99% CLTV
  • 12 Months PITI Required, seasoned for two months
  • Primary Residence and Second Homes Eligible
  • Max Loan/Line amount available up to $350k
  • 1st and 2nd Lien Position available
  • 1st Time Home Buyers Eligible
  • Purchase, R/T and Cashout available

Pascack - Very true.

 

 

Nov 19, 2007 02:00 AM
Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

Mike,

Figures, they do away with all of the products. You now have to have a 850 Beacon, and have a Million in Assets to borrow $50,000 :0)

Tom Weiss

Nov 19, 2007 02:06 AM
Kim Murphy
Draper and Kramer - Lombard, IL
Mortgage Loans in DuPage, Kane, Cook, Lake, Will C
Mike... WOW!  This is good information to have!  Qualifying for a HELOC has become harder and harder, now they are freezing what already established.  Makes sense in some parts, but frustrating! I have one bank here that actually still goes to 100% (even stated) with 700 scores (TU) but I know that will come to an end soon!  They are actually the last one standing so far.
Nov 19, 2007 02:22 AM
Bill Nazur
First Lending Solutions - Riverside, CA

Active Mike always hits the nail right on the head.

I've warned several of my clients about this very issue as there is that clause in the HELOC documents that speaks to 'declining values'. Let's be thankful, they're not calling them due based on the 'revised' market value.

Nov 19, 2007 03:00 AM
Lisa Hill
Florida Property Experts - Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Beach Real Estate
Please tell me that sign's a joke. That can't be for real...
Nov 19, 2007 04:20 AM
Krista Fuchs
Prudential Fox & Roach - Exton, PA
Chester County Realtor - (484) 459-8025 - Home Buying and Selling
Now there's something I didn't see coming...thanks for the info!
Nov 19, 2007 06:30 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Tom - Mike's Seafood and Banking will soon be lending money on 850 FICO, full doc borrowers. Submit your applications to our team of Fish Cleaners Underwriters today!  Max CLTV 65%

Kim - I do too (100%) but even if we place that loan the lender can cancel a month or two later.  What good is it if you have a HELOC that you can't use?  It might actually do more damage.

Bill - Thank you sir!

Lisa - it is a photochop. But it got your attention, eh? 

 

Nov 19, 2007 06:36 AM
Brad Andersohn
Retired Executive Director of Education at eXp - Boulder Creek, CA
ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876
Great post Mike, but I'm waiting for some of the Holiday Posts that I know you have buried somewhere in that mighty chest of "Blog Post Ideas!"  It's turkey time, and I need some turkey stuff...ing!  LOL!  Seriously, nice post, got me for sure with the title!  Happy Holidays my friend!  :-)
Nov 19, 2007 12:24 PM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

if you can, this is a  great time to refinance your HELOCs and make sure they're still healthy

and I'm trying on all purchase loans to get one attached for safe keeping!

Nov 20, 2007 05:42 AM
Sarah Cooper
Real Estate Shows - Hurricane, WV
Hey, Hot Mike!  That seems kind of skeezie, since that's not what they signed on for.  Seems kind of like changing the rules as you go along.  
Nov 20, 2007 06:04 AM
Anonymous
Brian Rishwain

I am an attorney that specializes in class action litigation. We are investigating banks that unreasonably freeze or reduce HELOCs due to a purported "substantial decline" in the value of your property, requiring you to then pay hundreds of dollars for an appraisal to appeal their new crude computer generated valuation. Please contact me to discuss further.

Brian Rishwain

Rishwain & Associates, Inc.

439 N. Canon Drive, #200

Beverly Hills, CA 90210

brishwain@jrllp.com

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