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“Preapproval Said Borrower was Approved for a USDA Mortgage”

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Mortgage and Lending with Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 NMLS # 6869

“Preapproval Said Borrower was Approved for a USDA Mortgage”

 

I don’t consider myself the average seller of real estate. I have been a very active buyer and seller of real estate for many years. I have also had the privilege of being in the mortgage business for many years. I also don’t like to mix the two, never willing to do mortgages on anything where I am the owner of the real estate being sold, for obvious reasons. I just don’t want any possible conflicts.

 

OK, so where am I going with this. I put a newly renovated home on the market, fortunately there was lots of action. There were a number of interested parties and settled in on a transaction where there buyer was approved for a USDA mortgage. I reviewed the preapproval, but I always wonder if the loan officer knows what they are doing.

 mortgage preapproval

After accepting a contract, all inspections completed, appraisal done, the lender tells the buyer he is not qualified for a USDA loan.

 

The selling agent got permission to contact me to see if I could help. I spoke to the borrower directly and it turns out he could NEVER qualify for a USDA loan. There are maximum income limits and these limits are based on household income and in his case, combined they were $40,000 over the limit.

 

The loan officer had no clue, as he didn’t ask. I felt very bad for the buyer, as he and his fiancé loved the home and they do not have any access to a down payment.

 

Again, I am not the average home seller, but truly understand what it would be like for the home seller that doesn’t do this every day and is told, the buyer really wasn’t qualified in the first place.

 

Unfortunately, stuff like this makes those of us that do a good job and know what we are doing, not always look so good in the eyes of the public.

 

 

Oh well, on to the next transaction. 

 

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Joe Petrowsky, NMLS #6869

Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS #2709

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Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

This is why I spend a lot of time understanding loan programs.  It's also why I "vet" loan officers if a buyer is already "pre-approved".

 

May 03, 2014 09:59 PM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I had a very similar situation last year, Joe.  It was because the buyers overtime pay put him over the limit and the loan officer thought that didn't count.

May 03, 2014 10:00 PM
John Wiley
Fort Myers, FL
Lee County, FL, ECO Broker, GRI, SRES,GREEN,PSA

Joe, great post. It is important for Real Estate Agents to have a good understanding of the mortgage process and standards in order to give the buyer an informed direction to go. A good mortgage person is essential.

May 03, 2014 10:46 PM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Too bad for the buyers. I am sure they were committed and ready to buy. I think they need a new mortgage broker, you.

May 03, 2014 10:50 PM
Charles Stallions
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pensacola, FL
850-476-4494 - Pensacola, Pace or Gulf Breeze, Fl.

Sad that it happens more often than we think I always learn when I read your post

May 03, 2014 11:10 PM
Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Good morning Joe,

Finf this often with people whom are using the internet brokers.

Keep up the good work.

Make yourself a great day.

May 03, 2014 11:28 PM
ReadySetLoan Team
ReadySetLoan Condo Team LLC - South Windsor, CT
Residential, Commercial & Condo Financing Experts

Hi Joe - with USDA loans becoming more and more mainstream, I would suspect that this goes on fairly frequently.  These loans definitely have their advantages but are certainly different than FHA and other more "typical" loans.

May 04, 2014 12:19 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

This is a good story to share. The pre-approval has no meaning if the loan officer does not know what he is doing. Smart buyers select an experienced loan officer.

May 04, 2014 12:36 AM
David Shamansky
US Mortgages - David Shamansky - Highlands Ranch, CO
Creative, Aggressive & 560 FICO - OK, Colorado Mtg

Yeah I run into this from time to time as well. Its amazing, even with the new laws and licensing in place  the amount of absolutely clueless people still in our industry

May 04, 2014 03:46 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Joe that Loan Originator not knowing the USDA Income Guidelines cost that Borrower a lot of money.  Hopefully they gave them at least their application fee back.

May 04, 2014 04:25 AM
Tom White
Franklin Homes Realty LLC (615) 495-0752 or www.FranklinHomesRealty.com - Franklin, TN
Franklin Homes Realty LLC, Franklin TN

Joe, that poor buyer got the rug pulled out from under him. So sad. That's quite a way down the road to find that out!

May 04, 2014 05:47 AM
Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

A very sad statement for the buyers and the mortgage lender who did not do their homework Joe.

May 04, 2014 06:49 AM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

Unfortunately, there are many loan officers out there that should be in another profession!

May 04, 2014 07:38 AM
Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, Broker/Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Huntsville AL - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

Joe, not only did the buyers lose a home and the sellers have their home off the market, but the buyers also paid for an appraisal and home inspections...so one person not knowing what they were doing cost the buyers money!

May 04, 2014 08:14 AM
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I really feel for the buyers. I hope they have found another lender to work with. Maybe it's you?

May 04, 2014 11:17 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Joe,

So it goes, and we hear bad advice on branding and marketing being doled out on a daily basis, and the masses go along without really researching what is what...it drives me crazy, so I definitely know what incompetence can do...LOL A

May 04, 2014 01:48 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

That is one of the many scenarios Joe that has caused us,  as listing agents to present buyers with a list of lenders...pick one....not the one that told you what you wanted to hear.

May 04, 2014 08:37 PM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Thank you for the post. Good luck in finding another buyer.

May 04, 2014 08:51 PM
Jane Chaulklin-Schott
TEAMCONNECT REALTY - (407) 394-9766 - Orlando, FL
TeamConnect Luxury Homes - Orlando, Florida, 32836

Sad story for many people - Buyer, Seller, Agents, etc.  Unfortunately this comes up far too often. Also has short-and-long-term consequences (e.g.) Seller all packed to move out in a few days before the closing. Seems there should be a monetary penalty for the one giving the original advise. In this case it usually is quite easy to check the USDA mortgage requirements, restrictions, and guidelines.

May 04, 2014 10:09 PM
Maria Gilda Racelis
Home Buyers Realty, LLC-Manchester, Bolton. Vernon,Ellington - Manchester, CT
Home Ownership is w/in Reach. We Make it Happen!

Good Morning Joe: What a pity. All hopes opened wide just to be crushed.

May 06, 2014 08:53 PM