My in my last blog post a mid-year update to my 2009 market and economic predictions I got multiple comments about the economic threat of inflation or even hyper-inflation rearing it's ugly head.

"It will be interesting to see how those TARP funds play out and what the aftermath will be.  My guess will be massive inflation.... think about it this way."

"One thing is for certain. If inflation rears its ugly head, interest rates will increase to combat that."

"Still have you noticed how no one is talking about the inflation rate?   We know that in order to spend the "trillions" that more money will have to be printed."

This also seems to be the common thread in the media and much of the financial world, everybody is expecting or thinks we are currently experiencing a huge, hidden inflation.  I'm going to lay out the case, why I not only don't any evidence of it, I expect the opposite, a very deflationary outcome, over the next several years.

Truth be told the central banks around the world, including our FED, are desparately trying to return to an inflationary environment.  There is nothing they fear more than deflation, but their efforts to reignite the inflationary engine can only be described as an epic failure.

We already had the massive inflation through credit expansion

For about a 5 year period between 2002-2007 and maybe a little bit before the US went through a massively inflationary period, not represented by the standard government inflation or money supply numbers. It was caused by what many sometimes refer to as the "shadow banking" system (because it doesn't show up in the numbers) that drove massive credit expansion.

Not that it was exactly very hidden.  It drove speculative bubbles all around us, both residential and commercial real estate, commodities, corporate debt fueling leveraged buy outs and equities.  If you believed the CPI numbers published you saw inflation rates of around 2-3% during this period.  Several economists have calculated the real inflation rate was actually somewhere between 10-15% annually during this period.  This lead to both real interest rates that were very negative, and also a very negative real wage growth. 

The last year and a half we've seen the exact opposite, a massive credit contraction, driving deflation across almost all asset classes.  Just as the government numbers as an artifact of what they measure severelly understated the inflationary period they are massively understating the amount of deflation that is ocurring.  Look around at real estate, stocks, bonds, commodities.  Do you see rising or falling prices over the last two years?

Credit destruction is MANY times larger than credit creation

The most common inflationary argument is the FED and other central banks are printing trllions, upon trillions of dollars that are being pumping into the system.  While there has been a couple trillion in money put into the system, the actual amount used to monitize debt through quantitative easying is only around a trillion or less.  Now counter balance a trillion vs. over $50 trillion in global wealth destruction in 2008 alone.  What's the bigger number?  To put in bluntly the FED and other central banks are merely pissing into the wind with their efforts.

The money isn't moving

Now here is the real crux of the problem for central banks why money supply creation and stimulus are not having their intended inflationary effect.  While the technical definition of inflation is size of the money supply, all the inflationary effects people worry about are instead driven by the velocity of money.  A small amount of money moving very fast through an economy creates more inflationary effects than a large amount of money sitting on a balance sheet plugging holes.

In fact the velocity of money has completely collapsed as it's being used to pay down and service debts or cover losses.  The last time the velocity of money was this slow, was heading into the Great Depression.  Below is a chart of MZM the broadest measure of monetary velocity.

The hyperinflationary setup

For those people worried about imminent hyper-inflation, it might be worth looking historically at characteristics of hyper-inflationary collapses.  There have been dozens of well documented ones throughout history, some of the ones that come of most peoples minds first are the Weimer Republic in 1920's Germany and recently in Zimbabwe.

Hyperinflation almost always occurs following a severe deflationary collapse.  While I've made my case we are experiencing deflation right now, we are no where near what would be considered a collapse, yet.  It also ocurrs in a countries that base purchasing power on a stable foreign currency.  In other words if you have the world reserve currency like the US dollar, it is near impossible to get hyperinflation.  It's much more likely you see hyperinflation in foreign countries that attempt to peg their currencies to the US dollar, which would result in a relative strengthening of the dollar. 

I could see us, creating a setup for hyperinflation if the dollar looses reserve currency status, and we experience a deflationary collapse, but it would take us several years to get there.

Interest rates rising without inflation

Ok, so I've gone on record saying I expect rising interest rates and possibly a crash in the US Treasury market within the next year.  If rates are rising doesn't that imply inflation?  Well not exactly...

Inflationary expectations are only one component of what sets interest rates, the other major one is risk of default.  The higher the risk of default the higher rates must go.  It's this rising risk of default that I expect to significantly push up rates not inflation.  In fact the rising rates may have a highly deflationary impact as it will further choke off credit, stalling economic recovery.

More charts, "Dude, where's my inflation?"

 

 

 

 

33 Comments on The case against inflation

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A bit technical so the images really helped me understand the concepts rather well. Thanks for sharing this information as it gave me a new perspective.

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Well.  The banks are stilling on the money they got to "stimulate lending".

The home owner is paying twice what their home is worth just have a roof over their head.

Folks are not buying consumer goods except from the $$ stores.

If that isn't a sign of deflation, I don't know what is.

The economic news is worthless.  The prognostigators all believe that the stock market is the economy.  Nonsense.

The American consumer is the economy and he's trying to dig out from under the crap the government and the Wall Street Gangs dumped on him.

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Speculating has not been one of my strong points so reading yours gives me food for thought. I move with the changes so if this is true ... interest rates going up with further decrease spending on homes....no matter what kind of incentives are offered.  Decreasing prices and rising interest rates do not equal a bargain. :)

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Matt, this is fascinating. Thanks for posting this. You sound like someone on the level of John Mauldin, whom I deeply respect.

Sharon

4:24pm • #5
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Yourt post gives me a lot to thinkg about. One thought, in our current position, what are the chances that the US Dollar will stop being the reserve currency?  Haven't some countries looked at not using the dollar at all when trading with each other? 

4:43pm • #6
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Great Post

Thaks for taking the time to share your knowledge on this very important topic

4:48pm • #7
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Hey I just move along hoping for the best. It is what it is and will turn around eventually. Not much we can do to make it happen anytime soon, unfortunately. I stay away from all the news for the most part. Does anyone really know what's going to happen and when? I don't think so.

Patricia Aulson/portsmouth nh real estate

5:14pm • #8
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Interesting perspective.  I don't think I've heard it argued this way before.  Thanks for this post!

5:58pm • #9
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Good thoughts. I do not think inflation is that big a worry for the near future.  I do think lack of job creation is a much larger problem that will be not be addressed with all the government spending.

People will save more and spend less in the future.  Its a cycle that comes and goes. Few people think past the next election cycle. 

6:23pm • #10
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Matt,

Interesting reading. Velocity of money seems to be pretty stagnant, as you argue, and it may have some painful consequences later on.

 

9:40pm • #11
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Interesting thoughts Matt.  I think until consumers have both positive equity in their homes and stable jobs, things will largely be a mess.

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Let's not forget that the credit card companies are removing "liquidity" by truncating credit lines, HELOCs are drying up... basically, there is much left to spend and industry might have to chase down the prices to try to have sales...  We'll see...

11:16pm • #14
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There is nothing they fear more than deflation, but their efforts to reignite the inflationary engine can only be described as an epic failure.

Hey Matt,

Are you saying we're returning to the dreaded "stagflation" of the Carter years?!

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Bruce, no I don't think stagflation.  Stagflation was the combination of inflation along with a stagnant economy.  I'm making my case against the inflation part of it, at least in the next year or two.

Lane, yes the truncating of credit lines all over the place is one area where deflation is very visable.

2:23am • #16
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Christine: On the topic of the US dollar loosing status as the world reserve currency, it's obviously gonna happen at some point but right now what are the suitable alternatives?  People talk about the dollar collapsing due to our deficit spending but everything is relative, it has to collapse against something.  The financial problems and government deficits in Europe are much worse than those in the US.  China is an oncoming train wreck, with economic issues magnitudes worse than ours about to hit.  No matter how much the gold bugs want to fantisize we aren't returning to a gold based standard.

The argument comes down to, we're in bad shape but almost everyone else is in worse shape.  This makes me think we could see a huge flight into the relative (relative being key the key term here) safety of the US dollar in near future.

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Matt, thanks for a very interesting post.  A lot to think about.  I think you are spot on, but hope that you're wrong. 

7:20am • #18

thanks for the superb information and the great images. I know you put a great deal of time into this. thank you for sharing.

9:22am • #19

Matt, Thank you for your insights. Obviously, the economic systems we created were doomed by their enormity and by greed, which is an inherent part of humans and countless generations who experienced scarcity. We know there are no "easy answers", but are there any answers being put forth? Whether inflation or deflation, the net result is the same: money is not available to be borrowed, ergo businesses fail, individuals lose houses and the downward spiral continues. Weath moves into the hands of the few (a la Resolution Trust) who can purchase others' failures at pennies on the dollar. While some people believe it will all somehow "turn around again", I can't see any precipitating events or innovations on the horizon that would justify that optimism. Since you obviously have a more big-picture perspective and understanding of this, I would appreciate you expanding upon what you see as future scenarios.

Aysha Griffin
9:43am • #20

Matt, great post. I can't help but think what does this mean for real estate. Buyers will be financing at higher interest rates but the price of the homes will be lower. Do you have any thoughts about that?

9:57am • #21
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Matt: Great post. And some interesting thoughts. I appreciate your insights!

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Matt, I'm with Aysha, the question that I keep asking is to how can an individcual midigate or prepare for further economic decline?  Do you modify your loan, do you walk away from your home?  Do you move to other areas or simply find work in a "growth industry"?  Is the only growth industry the federal government? 

What you are describing is cataclysmic. 

10:31am • #23

Matt, thank you for your thoughts.  However, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of inflation and here is why.

Inflation and Central Banking are synonymous.  Central Banks manipulate fiat currencies which in turn creates inflation.  It is in their nature.  The US Dollar has lost 96% of its value since the Federal Reserve took over printing and coining our money in 1913.  The very existence of the FED represents inflation.  Our Government took steps last year to shore up bad loans and gave banking institutions over $1.2 trillion.  The number was much larger than the reported $700 Billion and was done only to prevent their dreaded "Bank Run".  This year, we have seen even more $$$ spent in a fit to "stimulate" the economy.  The only real measure that worked in the housing market was the $8000 tax credit.  Lower taxes will always stimulate an economy faster and more stable than printing money.  As a side note, the Federal Reserve is neither Federal nor a Reserve.  It is a private corporation, which prints our money and then loans it back to us with interest.  But that is a discussion for another time.

As we speak, the Dollar is being sold off.  Japan is selling of their reserve dollars to raise money for their ailing economy as well.  Hong Kong and China just broke from the dollar reserve when trading with each other.  Gold and Silver are poised to go through the roof.  These precious metals are symbol of "safety" in times of economic uncertainty.  Some think we have seen the bottom of the market, but I don't think we have seen the bottom of our currency yet.

Here is a snap shot of the Euro vs US Dollar.  Notice the Euro is poised to go higher against the Dollar, which is turn means the Dollar is losing value.  The channels suggest a higher move, while price is staying above the 26 week moving average.

Below is a picture of Gold price.  Gold is the world's safe haven currency.  Gold and the US Dollar are cross pairs, which means when one goes up, the other goes down.  Gold is getting ready to break through resistance levels and when it does, there will be little stopping it.  Notice its upward momentum.  It is above the 26 week moving average with strong indicators.

These charts are market prices.  They are not charts that our Government puts out.  I'm not saying that our Government manipulates charts, but I am saying that numbers can be used to represent what someone wants you to see.

In short, the value of the Dollar drops when more $$$ is printed.   The FED doesn't have a big safe where it goes to get its money.  It must buy treasury bonds and print the money.  This vicious cycle creates inflation.  We are printing our $$$ at a record pace right now and we have been for the last 6 years.  This has caused our national debt to go through the roof, making some nations (especially China) wonder if holding American Dollars is the right thing.  Now nations are rising up saying they want a "global currency".  What would happen to the dollar if the World Bank and IMF implement such measures?  The dollar would fall like a lead balloon.

My prediction is we will more than likely see Stagflation, which will open the door to bring in another super currency like Europe has.  They have the Euro, we will probably end up with the Amero or something similar.

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Katrina, most of your arguments are the exact same arguments that I wrote this post to counter.  If you go back and read the post, most of my counter arguments are laid out fairly well.

You're are right that central banks existance is to help create inflation, and I don't dispute that, my argument is they are miserably failing right now no matter how are they try.  You also mention a $1.2 Trillion value for injections, what's bigger that or $50T in wealth evaporation in 2008 alone. Your charts you posted of currencies and gold show huge bets on inflation by "the herd".  I think the popular view of an inflationary outcome over the next two years is incorrect. 

The Euro is hardly a super currency at this point.  If I was going to place my bets, it would be that the Euro collapses before the US dollar does.

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I agree with you.  The collapse of fractional banking is causing deflation.  I think deflation is a threat to everyone, not just banks.  I have no problem with the government increasing the money supply dramatically, my problem is with government spending.  We should be cutting taxes like crazy to get the money in the hands of the American People and create jobs in the private sector.

However, if in 2-4 years if lending goes back to normal then we will see high inflation.  I think we need credit for higher end durable goods and businesses need lines of credit, but I hope we never go back to our credit card culture.

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Matt, I'm with Aysha, the question that I keep asking is to how can an individcual midigate or prepare for further economic decline?  Do you modify your loan, do you walk away from your home?  Do you move to other areas or simply find work in a "growth industry"?  Is the only growth industry the federal government? 

Good question, I wish I had a magical answer.  Be fiscally responsable, pay down debt, save money, protect the money you do have.  In a deflationary environment cash is king, as everything stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities goes down in price against it. Realise credit is probably going to continue to get more expensive and lending standards greatly tighten.

What industries are doing good or will be growth industries?  I'm really not sure not something I've given a lof thought to.  I do think the government at all levels is facing a huge forced contraction on spending in the near future.  We are already seeing it forced at the local and state levels no mater how much they want to try and deficit spend (see California).  The Federal level maybe next no matter how hard Congress will attempt to avoid it.

Aysha: While I see a lot of pain still of the horizen things will always turn around again.  They'll be plenty of opportunities even if we can't see them right now.  The greatest boom times come out of busts.

 

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I agree with you.  The collapse of fractional banking is causing deflation.  I think deflation is a threat to everyone, not just banks.  I have no problem with the government increasing the money supply dramatically, my problem is with government spending.  We should be cutting taxes like crazy to get the money in the hands of the American People and create jobs in the private sector.

However, if in 2-4 years if lending goes back to normal then we will see high inflation.  I think we need credit for higher end durable goods and businesses need lines of credit, but I hope we never go back to our credit card culture.

Gene: Fractional reserve banking isn't necissarily collapsing, it's going through a reset as the total amount of debt has reached the point where it can no longer sustain economic growth.  I wrote a post about it earlier this year about it.  Fractional reserve banking systems have been used by almost every country in the world for hundreds of years and have huge benefits, but they are mathmatically also prone to cycles like almost all markets.

Agree with most of everything you said, government spending is a runaway frieght train and it's about it hit a brick wall and cause lots of damage.  Though I don't think it's possible to cut taxes right now even with huge reductions in spending due to our past excesses.

11:42am • #28

I sure wish that I could figure this out.  You have huge conflicting forces in a complex system.  A complex system by itself produces random events. 

The thing that scares me the most is much higher interest rates. 

You posted this in one of your comments "This makes me think we could see a huge flight into the relative (relative being key the key term here) safety of the US dollar in near future."

Now if there is a big flight into the dollar then won't that help the treasury market?

Very interesting stuff.

12:25pm • #29

Matt,

Interesting.  I am mostly in agreement and in fear because of it.  Many of the "the herd" where I am located are stating this is the bottom and the time to buy.  I've got a hard time reconciling that statement with inventory, employment figures and the continued rise in delinuencies.  Stan Leibowitz had an interesting editorial in the WSJ on July 3 about the real cause of the crisis.  People could argue that one ad nauseum, but I did find the zero down argument compelling.  My fear is that "marginal buyers" who may be following the heard will lead to additional negative equity situations and further foreclosures down the line...

If interest rates are indeed forced up, this will further compound the problem. 

Interesting times.

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Matt - You lay out a very well-informed and intellectual case in terms of the statistics and the facts.  It will be interesting to see how this all lays out.  With the deflationary theme, is that why you see the financial markets falling ?  Or corporate earnings falling off the cliff ?  OR both ?

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Matt - LOVE this, especially as Krughman and PM Brown are both stating that we need more Stimulus.  Very valid points - Velocity of Money?  What Velocity!?

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Matt,

You make a good point that inflation is not yet driving interest rate, but is a significant component in what drives interest rates. I am inclined to disagree with you, though, on your statement that risk of default is the true driver in the May-June jump in interest rates. Yes, concern about government default is rising, but I believe that the average credit quality of loans made to consumers and businesses today is at its highest level this decade.

Banks, and other lending institutions are much more strict about supplying funds today, which, I believe, is creating a vintage of loans that will have a historically low default level. 2009 is a very good year to buy paper that will pay on time.

Dan

9:28am • #33

Which CPI from the Government are you looking at, if I'm not mistaken, there are at least 3

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