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Reflections from my back Porch—Restoration or Preservation?

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In the “Real World” of old Saint Paul—as viewed from my back porch, “Pruett’s Pig Powders” indicate that it is currently a very pleasant 61ºF, and our lens-assisted eyes tell us the sky is partly-cloudy, with the recent “Blue Moon,” no longer full, but shining brightly in the southern sky.

“I ran into Jay M. Saturday,” I said, after a sip of the usual organically & shade-grown, fair-trade, Sumatran-Roast coffee, “while walking my “Step-Dog,” Daisy.”

“Jay M?” Medford replied, while stirring his usual cream & sugar into his porcelain, not china, but made in China, Codger Collectible Mug, “Isn’t he the guy who lives near Boomer, by the church?”

“That’s the one,” I replied, “his re-siding and window replacement project has been completed. He has some painting to do yet, but the house looks great.”

“Cedar? Hardyboard?” Med asked after a moment.June Codger Carnival of Curb Appeal Ad ©2007 Codger Images

“Vinyl,” I said, “he expressed some concern about what some of his neighbors might think.”

“That’ll please the restorationists,” Medford, with his usual sense of irony, said.

“He’s a bit worried about that,” I added, “they believe that all maintenance such as windows and siding should be done with an eye towards restoring the home to its original appearance.”

“But isn’t the idea to preserve the home?”

“Yes,” I answered, “but the restorationists believe that siding MUST be wood, and grudgingly accept hardyboard. Gutters and downspouts must be copper.”

“That is all good, and would be the preferred way,” Medford said, “but too expensive for most.”

“Some of the purists,” I concluded, “are only too eager to spend other people’s money. Preservation takes many forms, and the importance maintaining our fine old homes supersedes pure restoration.”

“True, without preservation, there’ll be nothing left to restore,” Medford agreed.

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Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Love it, love it, love it.

We have a LOT of 200-300 homes in my neck of the woods.  Homes that have been maintained well have also maintained their value and added a bonus for preservation.

However, homes that have been "preserved" but have detriorated, have little to no market and are priced "below market".  There MUST be a balance. 

IMO, maintenance is far more important than preservation.

 

Jun 03, 2007 11:18 PM
Boomer Jack Boardman & Carl McIntyre, the Codgers
Noted Curmudgeons - Saint Paul, MN

Lenn: Agreed. We consider "preservation" the aggressive maintenance of our homes, and "restoration" returning them to their original appearance using only historic materials. Both have their place.

Jay 

Jun 03, 2007 11:23 PM
Blue Ridge Ga Real Estate >> Real Property in Blue Ridge Georgia
United Country Landmasters - Ellijay, GA
Preservation .... If I could only time just to preserve or restore.
Jun 03, 2007 11:26 PM
Rick & Ines - Miami Beach Real Estate
Majestic Properties - Miami Beach, FL

Ok....I'm one of those "restoranionists" but it really depends on the architectural relevance of the home.  There are plenty of very old homes out there that have no architectural relevance, so go ahead and just preserve.  Here is S. Florida, we call it "historic preservation" which is a little ironic.  The architect side of me says, as long as you maintain the original proportion of the window (including the muntin proportion), then you can replace with the most modern and practical material.  As for siding - depends on the structure.

Did I bore you yet?

Jun 04, 2007 01:25 AM
Sarah Cooper
Real Estate Shows - Hurricane, WV

I have a 30-something house and I seriously covet Jay's new vinyl.  I'm hoping in a year or two, I can be preserving my home as well.

Been missing you guys.  I've been far too busy lately!!  I'll try to slow it down a notch or two so I can stop by regularly again.  My coffee's not as good without you.

Jun 04, 2007 05:29 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert
Jay, I understand the need to preserve history for future generations. But I don't think that other people should have the right to tell me how to spend my money.  If am to be made to preserve in a certain way, then those making the demands should provide the funds for me to comply with their wishes.  Having said that I do enjoy seeing old historic well preserved buildings, I just have a problem with the demands.
Jun 04, 2007 11:58 AM
Boomer Jack Boardman & Carl McIntyre, the Codgers
Noted Curmudgeons - Saint Paul, MN

Doug: Time (and money) is a factor in this.

Ines: Around here, with some, architecture is overly important, as in if it’s not a Victorian, Greek Revival, or Queen Anne—it’s not significant. With others, it’s the home’s history, what significant historic figure lived in the house, for example. In Jay M’s case, his small Victorian was sided in vinyl with close attention to the home’s Victorian detailing—little or nothing was lost. The new windows were custom made to fit perfectly, and the front porch remains in its original state, just repaired where necessary and repainted. The overall effect is stunning. I’ll try to get a photo of the home later today.

Sarah: Busy, huh? Too busy for your friends—eh? Busy is good. We were too delightfully busy today to reply to these comments until this morning ourselves. Very glad you stopped in!

George: Some parts of the city have been designated as Historic Preservation Districts. In those districts there are rules as to what and how one may preserve or modify one’s home. Such a designation protects from the wanton destruction of “urban renewal” and “eminent domain,” and for that, is desirable. My home, for good or ill, is not in such a district, and has been restored, not just preserved. It is what it was when built in 1862—except for the kitchen, bathrooms, heating & cooling, of course.

Jay

Jun 04, 2007 08:19 PM
Maggie Dokic /Indialantic | 321-252-8696
Magdalena Dokic - Indialantic, FL
Selling the beach in Florida's space coast
While I lived in NY, the building we lived in was designated historical status.  What a bunch of trouble that brought along with the distinction.  Everything had to be cleared with the historical society before any work was done.  I understand their intentions, but the red tape made each project take 3 times longer than it should have.
Jun 04, 2007 11:09 PM
Rick & Ines - Miami Beach Real Estate
Majestic Properties - Miami Beach, FL
Jay - I would love to see a picture.  I all for modernization.  A lot of the historic homes here in Miami have wood casement windows that get eaten up by the sun and the weather.  I believe that an exterior metal clad window with the exact proportions would also be appropriate, but a lot of historians would have my head for making that statement.  There has to be a happy medium between historic preservation and practicality.
Jun 05, 2007 06:16 AM