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Are Lease Homes Second Class Listings?

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Real Estate Agent with The LivingWell Team 0588650

Are Lease Homes Second Class Listings?

Home For Lease Deb and I usually only work residential real estate sales, but we have some clients that are investors and would like to offer certain homes for lease. We do not specialize or focus on rental property and that may be our down fall. You see, we treat a property for lease with the same care and concern that we show our property that is for sale. When an agent contacts us about the property we respond as soon as possible, within the hour usually. It doesn't matter if its via phone, email or text. We respond.

Apparently we are not following the rules for the care and feeding of rental listings. We have quite a few new families that have reached out to us to help them find a home to lease. I personally have seen this as an emerging trend as a result of the slew of foreclosures and short sales that are plauging our nation. However, the last three calls to different listing agent with property listed for lease, has resulted in no response. I mean nothing. Three different agents. What the heck? How are you serving your clients in this manner? Is this the norm? I don't mean a failure to contact us within the hour, I mean for days if ever.

Please someone, anyone tell me, why does a home for lease deserve any less respect than a home for sale. If you are not willing to invest the time and effort to be responsive then just don't take the listing. Its getting pretty crazy out there. So please, tell me what I am missing...

Jason Crouch
Austin Texas Homes, LLC - Austin, TX
Broker - Austin Texas Real Estate (512-796-7653)

I don't list homes for lease, but we do help people who are trying to find a place to rent.  Frankly, I've found that it's not usually worth my own time to list lease homes, since I would handle them in the same way you described here, and the return on my time would be much lower.  That being said, if I DID list a home for lease, I would be responsive.  No excuse for not calling back.

Jan 15, 2011 04:14 AM
Gina Nugent
Donohue RE - Palm Beach, FL
Real Estate Agent - Palm Beach, FL

I agree with Joe (who also agrees with Judy and Denise)...it can definitely be future business or referrals where one can show off great professionalism.

Jan 15, 2011 04:38 AM
Monica Foster
Monica Foster Team of eXp Realty - League City, TX
Broker, CRS, ABR, SRS, CHMS, CNE, CNHS

My market, the Houston Bay Area, is saturated with sale listings due to recent NASA contractor layoffs; therefore, many owners are opting to lease their home in lieu of selling it, again, because the market is so saturated with sale listings.  The rentals get the same care as my sale listings, in fact, I have professional photos taken of the rentals, just as I do of the sale listings (it's a small expense to make sure the property looks it best ... and I'm bad with a camera!!).  I have 3 rentals listed right now.  Also, I've actually picked up clients who viewed my rentals, and I converted them to buyers rather than tenants.  Yes, they're a lot of paperwork, but in some cases, the owner's will list their house for sale in the future ... I have one now that is only leasing because she would have to pay the $8k tax credit back if she sells this year (she's only been in it for 2 years).

Thanks for posting!

Jan 15, 2011 04:44 AM
Barbara Altieri
Better Homes and Gardens RE Shore and Country Properties - Shelton, CT
REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale

Brent and Deb -- A rental listing should be treated no different than a property that is for sale.  I have had the same issues trying to get rental appts.  where it takes me forever to schedule and confirm.  I agree.  If you can't represent the rental owner with good service, don't even take the listing. 

Jan 15, 2011 04:49 AM
Jean Hanley
Coldwell Banker Kivett Teeters - Hemet, CA
Specializing in Folks Who Want To Buy/Sell Homes

Well, I gotta tell ya....I got into this business because "I work for food", and like Greg said in #1--money comes in all ways.  In this market, we would be foolish not to work leases/rentals, given the opportunity, because many folks have been misplaced from foreclosures, and WILL be future buyers.  Other folks simply choose to rent over owning.  Nothing wrong with that, either.

Jan 15, 2011 04:49 AM
Shirley Soforic
F. C.Tucker co. - New Palestine, IN

A client is a client.  If they are sellers who can't sell, then we need to help them cover their payments.  We either assist them with a tenant or turn them over to someone who will.  It could come back as a listing in a few years.  The tenant may come back as a buyer in a few years.  Each of them could be good referral business for you.  That is 2 more people out there speaking good things about you.  I personally will do both.  Because I own properties, I  will sell or property manage.  I only do about 10 so far, but that is an extra 1,000/ mo to cover overhead. 

Jan 15, 2011 05:20 AM
Brent Wells
The LivingWell Team - Prosper, TX
Dallas - Fort Worth

@Doug - I believe it is...

@Michelle - It does take more work because of the demand and showing volume

@Chris - Good points about prospects working with many agents.

@Tom - Thanks! Yes sir, you guys have a great reputation around DFW to be sure.

@Terrylynn - Agreed

@Kristi - So many folks forget that.

@Iran - I hate to hear its a wide spread problem.

@Helia - I can't stand it either, just answer the phone or at least return a call.

@Chris - Stand up policy Chris, I applaud you for it.

@Christine - I guess its just basic business edicate. Hire an assistant if you need to, but return those calls.

@Harry - Wow 300+ properties, you are THE MAN!

@Margaret - See, thats just sad that because you were prompt and professional they were shocked.

@Denise - Absolutely, renters grow into buyers...

@Pam - You are so right, we have gotten 7 new families looking for lease homes from one rental listing. Half of them want to buy within 1 yr.

@Fernando - agreed

@Judy - I understand your point, but the frustration these folks feel at not being treated with respect is just wrong in our industry.

@Michael - spot on Michael.

@Gloria - I believe that past is gone and we are dealing with the new reality.

@Tom - Yes Sir!

@Wallace - Thats just so sad isn't it.

@Cindy - Education can take care of that and gain you a loyal client.

@Marriotts - Good for you, I am sure they will handle them with respect.

@David - Wow...

@Chuck - They are a great source of future buyers.

@Anne - Thats a good point Anne, many listing agents will keep the majority of the commision on a lease.

@Jeanne - Wow, you win!!!

@Irene - Yes Mam, you are correct.

@Virginia - True, very true

@Stephanie - Thanks for the nice thoughts.

@Joe - Yup

@Jason - Your actual compensation is much lower, but you get tons of new clients and your current client loves you for the effort.

@Gina - You nailed it on the head with 'professionalism'.

@Monica - Our photographer shoots our listings as well. We market them just as much. There is no excuse to do it half way.

@Barbara - We had submitted an application after confirming that it was available. 4 hours later their response was our 'other' agent has already leased that property. No professionalism at all...

@Jean - Exactly and everyone deserve great service and respect.

Jan 15, 2011 05:26 AM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

A lease home for purchase or to rent out does not deserve to be a second class citizen but the payout to agents is far less, hence priorities are where their significant money is being made. But communication should be top notch no matter what. If not, the agent is not doing their job.

Jan 15, 2011 05:31 AM
Brandon & Grace Yee
Chase International - South Lake Tahoe, CA
Lake Tahoe Real Estate

Hi Brent and Deb,

At least we all know that you'll take care of any leasing clients. ;)  Thanks for sharing your story!!

~Grace

Jan 15, 2011 05:38 AM
Laurie Martinez
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Dana Point, CA
South Orange County Real Estate

As a professional, I make every effort to represent all of my clients efficiently, including renters.  In the last 3 months though, I have turned in completed applications, credit reports,etc. to two different listing agents and never received any response whatsoever.  Even if they would just text me a definite "NO", I would be satisfied!  No returned calls or emails, nothing.  If you don't want to take lease listings, I understand.  They are a lot of work for very little money. But if you do, please be responsive.  How will these "clients" regard agents in general if we are so ineffective for them?

Jan 15, 2011 05:39 AM
Billie Hillier
http://702IsHome.com - North Las Vegas, NV
Savvy Home Realty Solutions

I work a ton of rentals and they are most appreciative of a returned call. What I hear most is that they have been told by other agents that a rental is not worth their time for the money and will not do them.

Some of my best referral for short sale listings and buyers have come from renters.

 

SSSHHHH. Don't let everyone know.  ;-)

Jan 15, 2011 06:00 AM
Richard Weisser
Richard Weisser Realty - Newnan, GA
Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional

I think the biggest mistake made by those listing rental properties is not advising their landlords to pay a fair commission for the amount of work involved in getting renters into the house.

Jan 15, 2011 08:13 AM
MeLisa Minter, Realtor
Minter Real Estate Services - Taylor Lake Village, TX
Bay Area Houston Real Estate Agent

Leases have been my bread and butter for the last year.  I like them because they pay faster, and there is not all of that headache about inspections, negotiations, etc. 

They can be a headache, because you normally have to show about 5 prospects just to get one that is qualified.

What I don't like is that in some areas, the agents only offer 25% commission and I try to stay away from those areas.  I think 50% is fair, especially since the commission is already rather small.

Jan 15, 2011 09:23 AM
Margaret Goss
@Properties - Winnetka, IL
Chicago's North Shore & Winnetka Real Estate

I do very few rentals, but last time I did, the renters ended up buying a home (with me) and then sold it three years later (with me.) 

I would certainly do more of them for this reason alone.

Jan 15, 2011 09:57 AM
Dr. Stacey-Ann Baugh
Century 21 New Millennium - Upper Marlboro, MD
A doctor who makes house calls.

I think any client deserves good service regardless of whether they are sales or leases.  I've done many rentals over the past few years and though they can be lots of work they have provided steady income in an otherwise slow market.

Jan 15, 2011 12:14 PM
John Novak
Keller Williams Realty The Marketplace - Las Vegas, NV
Henderson, Las Vegas and Summerlin Real Estate

I've helped a few clients find rentals, and refer any listings to the property management department in my market center. Seeing the encouraging results from other agents in my market area tells me I should step up my efforts.

Jan 15, 2011 03:02 PM
Ryan Case
SCA Real Estate - Anaheim, CA
877-828-0710

I have handled rental listings before, and I treat them no differently than a regular listing!

Jan 15, 2011 04:18 PM
Brent Wells
The LivingWell Team - Prosper, TX
Dallas - Fort Worth

@Gary - I believe you are right, it may be all about the money.

@Brandon & Grace - Gee, thanks; we do try...

@Laurie - Thats my point exactly

@Billie - I can't stand someone to feel that they are not worth my time. Everyone deserves respect.

@Erica - yes indeed it is.

@Richard - very good point, some agents around here offer 25% on a lease

@MeLisa - Yup, I have seen it to

@Margaret - It is a great source of long term leads.

@Stacey - Good for you! Keep at it, I know they appreciate it.

@John - I believe it is an under served market

@SCA - As you should

Jan 18, 2011 08:48 AM
Denise Adame
AZ & Associates Real Estate Group - Phoenix, AZ
Hablo Español

Leases are alot of work and very little money.  A Leasing Agent has to work with significant volumes to make a decent living from it.

I decided to go into leasing for a property management company last year.  I had an area fit for 2 full time agents.  I had about 35 rental properties at any given time.  It was almost impossible to answer all my calls, emails, return messages, show properties, walk applicants through the application process, keep in touch with the owners, and not to mention all the behind the scene admin work involved, and all the field work as well (signs, pictures, lockboxes etc).   No matter how hard I tried I could never get 'caught up' and I could never make everyone happy.  Owners were cancelling right and left, applicants were 'walking' if we didn't approve them and hand them over keys quickly enough, it is a tough stressfull market.

I imagine that most large property management companies operate in similar fashion therefore offering poor service. 

Needless to say that I quit and went back to doing sales full time.   Just wasn't for me.  

Denise

Jan 19, 2011 04:39 AM
Anonymous
raul santana

OWNS 10 RENTAL RESIDENTIAL HOUSES AT FT. WORTH TX INTERESTED IN SALE .

ARE YOU SPECIALIZED ON IT. CONTACT FOR FURTHER INFO.

THANK YOU

R.SANTANA

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