Everybody wants a good deal!

 

 

 

That's basic human nature and the basic rules of real estate, investing, the stock market, and finance.  Buy Low -- Sell High.  You don't make money by buying an item -- whether it be a commodity like gold, a house, Google stock (boy I wish I bought shares a few years ago), baseball cards, or tulips -- at a higher price than that which you end up selling it.  

 

 

 

People always want to time the market and try to get in at "the bottom"  This happens in the stock market as well as in the real estate market.  Stock market gurus are unanimous in advising against market timing.  Instead they suggest that investors dollar cost average by investing a consistent amount on a regular schedule.  Some times you'll be investing at the peak of the market, some times at the bottom, but most times at somewhere in between.  This way you avoid the fluctuations of Wall Street and maintain a consistent investment that grows whether the market goes up or down.

 

 

 

 

Real estate is a bit different.  Unless you are a hardcore real estate investor, you are likely purchasing your home for more reasons that mere appreciation and return on investment.  You home is a place to live, a way to become a part of the community, and for lack of a better phrase "Home Sweet Home."  Additionally, you can't "dollar cost average" your home as you are only buying it once.

Yet almost every day, I (and Realtors across the country) hear homebuyers say that they are on the fence about buying a home, because they are waiting for the bottom of the market.

 

 Well how do you know when the market has reached the bottom?  There's only one way: when it starts going back up again.  When you wait for the elusive bottom of the market, you have to consider the opportunity costs.  If you are planning to live in the home that you purchase for a few years, then you are not shifting any real dollar costs, but rather just shifting the amount of time that you own the house.  The opportunity costs of not buying now and "waiting for the bottom" include the lack of tax writeoffs, paying rent, the possibility of higher future mortgage rates, and the possibility of missing "the bottom" and buying at a higher price.

None of us has a crystal ball and finding the bottom of the market is impossible except in hindsight.

 

Take a look at this chart showing average monthly sales price over the last year in Northern Virginia:

The lesson is that hindsight is 20/20.  But trying to time the real estate market is an effort in futility. 

Buy a home when you can afford one and when you feel it is time for you to make a move.  Don't buy a home based on market fluctuations.  In the long run, Northern Virginia home prices have appreciated 7% per year over more than 30 years.  Coupled with living in the Greater Capital area and enjoying all the benefits of the region, that's a great return on investment.

 

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46 Comments on Waiting for the Bottom: Don't Bother

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Brian, this is an excellent post!  Stock brokers will agree that anyone who is an investor will try to call market tops and bottoms, but it is almost always in vain!  The best approach is to realize that real estate is now a good investment and interest rates are very favorable.  Waiting is not necessarily the way to make money in real estate.
12:54am • #1
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You also lose a sense of negotiating power once the market begins it's climb upwards. Many people are trying to time the market and wait for it to bottom out. All the while they don't realize the great deal of negotiating power that they have until it begins it's climb upward and it's gone. And the feeling of "I should have bought then" comes rushing to one's mind. 
1:22am • #2
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BRIAN: It amazes me that there are so many experts out there that think that they can call the bottom.  They get their expert opinion from the media, and by the time that they do, it's too late.  You made all of the points that I always make to people, but sometimes, like a FSBO, they think that they know more than us.  All we can do is educate.  The decisions are up to them.  I'm sure that there'll be a lot of 20/20 hindsight going on when people start saying "we should have bought a few months ago, when we could have gotten the house for less money."  It doesn't matter exactly when it turns around.  This statement will be uttered shortly after the market has clearly bottomed, whenever that is.
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ERIC:  Thanks for your comments and compliments.  Prognosticators abound, but when even "top experts" in the stock market and real estate can't agree on the tops and bottoms, how is an average consumer going to be able to call the market?  Real estate is now and always has and will be a good investment.  And with the purchase of a home, it is so important to realize that there are other factors besides just appreciation that weigh into the mix.
6:37am • #4
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Brian:

Good post.  You are so right.  The only way you know when the bottom occurs is to go past it and miss it.

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RICARDO:  Thanks for your comments.  Your points are very true as well.  Negotiating power for buyers is there on the way down but not so much on the way back up.  
7:38am • #6
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Brian - Not only is it silly to try to time the market when buying a home you also run the risk of losing out on a terrific mortgage rate environment. The rates have been steady for a while of course but it is anybody's guess when that will change. It's like you mentioned, buying a home should be for a place to live and enjoy not to become your investment centerpiece.
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ADAM: It amazes me too.  I don't understand why people think they can time the market especially when they have less knowledge than some of the professionals who watch the real estate market and participate in the market every day and every week.  Educating clients is so important.

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BILL:  Thanks for your comments.  And then when people miss the bottom, they become upset and blame you for not helping them time things right.
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BILL G: I agree with you on the mortgage front.  We can't time that market either.  Thanks for your comments.
8:11am • #10

Brian:

I have my crystal ball on order.  I will let you know how it works when it gets here!  LOL

Seriously though, I see buyers trying to negotiate lower prices when the difference the in mortgage payment is so minimal for the amount the are negotiating.  Reality is their ego won't let them pay the higher price, even when the difference in the payment is minimal.

9:19am • #11
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Brian - I get asked every day as I'm sure you do, when the market will hit bottom. My answer is always "I don't know". It infuriates me to hear agents say with authority that it will be at least two or three years before things turn around. How in the world do they know that?
9:58am • #12
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A Home differs from stocks in it's purpose, (unless you are a flipper),  and each geographic area has it's own rate of appreciation...from our own experince....Buyers are out again in droves the last 2 weeks ( compared to August) in NW Indiana and multiple offers are being rec'd on our listings...therefore prices are going up...now is the time to buy in our area here :)
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Brian - This is a well-researched and a well-written post.  I may copy this concept and use it here in our market, although we are seeing a bit less of this mentality here.  We have more inventory primarily because we have buyers who are waiting for homes to sell in other markets, but the activity level is about the same as last year.  Good job!

2:19pm • #14
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Brian. If we are talking about buyers, then I tell them to figure out what they think the bottom is. They can't buy at the bottom unless they have previously forecast the bottom correctly. Then I tell them that the way to "guarantee" they get "bottom" price is to go out and make "that price" offer NOW. If they get it they have just bought at the bottom.

Bill Roberts

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DALE:  Let me know if the crystal ball works out.  I'd love to have one too.  Breaking down the mortgage payment to a per day basis makes people recognize the absurdity of the whole thing.  When a buyer sees that $5000 difference in price is equivalent to about $1/day on the mortgage payment, they often have an Aha! moment.  Thanks for your comments.

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TOM: That's an honest answer, as honest as you can be.  The truth is that we don't know.  How do these other agents know these things while the rest of us are in the dark.  Maybe they are just saying whatever they need to in order to make the sale or to make themselves feel better about their lousy performance during the "bad market."

3:05pm • #17
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Brian,

Excellent primer for those who are sitting on that fence. No one knows where the bottom is. It could be today, maybe we missed it already, perhaps it's a month from now. Typically the stats that come out in the media are several months behind from what's happening on the ground.

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JEFF & GRACE:  Yes, a home does indeed differ from stocks.  Now is the time to buy in Northern Virginia as well.  We've been seeing an increase in traffic and some return of multiple offers.  Though buyers still have a lot of sway in this market.  There is a lot of inventory.

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JASON:  Thanks for your comments and compliments. This mentality is rampant in the Northern Virginia and D.C. markets especially coming off of the record appreciation up through 2005.  Our market still has the economic fundamentals, but we hit an affordability problem.

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BILL:  If you use your strategy and let the buyers decide when they think they've found the bottom of the market, then they shouldn't be able to turn around and blame you.  Sound like a good idea.  Thanks for your comments.

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ESKO:  Thanks for your compliments and comments on this post.  If those of us in the industry and closest to the market don't know when the bottom is, how can anyone expect to know?  
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This should be required reading.  Brian, I suggest you print this up and stick it in a homebuyer's guide.  Nothing makes me want to pull my hair out more than the notion that a buyer is waiting to hit bottom.  That usually means they are waiting to read about it in the paper.  We all know that the news is generally about 6 months slow in reporting the direction of the market.  I clearly remember reading about our white hot market in late 2006, when all of the local industry experts had noticed some troubling slowdown, and even regression in many parts of the market.  By the time you know you've hit bottom, the pendulum has already started swinging back the other direction.  That leaves a market-timer scrambling to buy before prices rise too high again.  Purchasing under such duress is not exactly the best way to take your time and secure a good value (never mind actually finding a house you like).  That same buyer better pray that interest rates have not risen, either.  Not much good in buying low if your borrowing power is greatly reduced.  I'm sure that I am not the only agent warning buyers not to make the same mistake that many sellers did by waiting too long.  How many sellers are languishing on the market right now because they wanted to squeeze another 6 months of appreciation out of the market?
4:12pm • #23
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It is interesting that the units sold in May and June of this year in NOVA are almost 50% of the units sold in May of 05'.  in fact they are off 45% in units sold for Fairfax VA <100K - >5 Million.  How does it factor in that in this market 45% of the volume has disappeared? In May of 2005 in Fairfax county you had 2,291 units sold and in 2006 1,526 that accounts for a - 33.39 % drop in 2006 over 2005In 2007 units sold in 2007 there were only 1,271.  That accounts for another - 16.71 % drop month to month from May 2006 compared to May 2007.   The median price may have risen but that is not an indicator that a person has sold with a profit.  That could be just selective buying, it does not indicate a rising market or that the Fairfax market has bottomed or  is rebounding.

1 271 / 2 291 = 0.554779572  Sales Unit Drop from May 2005 - May 2007

$ 1 254 447 017 - $ 694 019 806 = $ 560 427 211  Total Sold Dollar Volume Loss May 2005 - May 2007

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Brian, our market didn't increase as much as some markets throughout the country.  If sellers break even right now after purchasing a few years ago, I consider them lucky.
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PAUL:  Thanks for the awesome compliment in your comment.  In my opinion, your comment says it just about as well as my blog post does.  Thanks for your support.

 

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JIM:  Thanks for your researched comments.  The number of sales is definitely down throughout the Northern Virginia region and it is difficult to ascertain from average sales price numbers whether it is selective buying as you suggest or what the indication is for the market.  The facts are that nobody has a crystal ball.  Whether we've reached a bottom or we are rebounding is still a mystery and that's why people should buy a home when they can afford to and when it is the right time for their purchase.  Buying a home is more than just an investment -- it is buying a place to live, and in some cases buying a lifestyle.
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KAY: Every market is different and that's why real estate is truly local.  However, I think that my post and observations can apply to many markets.
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Hi Brian,

Good post! I think the problem is one of GREED with a strong undercurrent of speculation. These folks you are referring to are not INVESTORS they are WANNABEES and SPECULATORS.

I would venture to guess that many don't even have their credit cards undercontrol let alone their credit score for that matter. But, they never consider the fact that having poor credit (or, less than average) is going to pair them up with a higher interest loan and what that will mean to their mortgage payment. All they see is the market continuing to soften. Sure, it may continue, Who Knows? Deals are out there though and terms can be negotiated probably moreso that price.

-Keith

 

 

10:42pm • #29
I know what you are talking about, I have 11 agents working for me...a few of them very new to Real Estate.  I keep stressing to them that things will pick up very soon, and they have in the past couple weeks.  We Sold 11 of our own listings last week, ups and downs are part of this business.  Thanks for the great posting.
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Timing the Real Estate market for its peak or trough is very difficult - very akin to trying to time the stock market.  Buy real estate and buy it right.  Then if you hold it for the long run, things should work out.
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KEITH:  Thanks for your insightful comments.  I appreciate it.  You are right that there are deals out there with other terms that can be succesfful negotiated in addition to price.
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JANNA:  Thanks for your comment.  Ups and downs are part of the business and the market.  But, market timing is not an easy nor a wise thing to do.
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KAUSHIK:  Thanks for your comments.  It sounds like I'm preaching to the choir here.
11:59pm • #34
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Real Estate has its ups and downs. You can make money in both times. You have to look for your opportunity.

Teresa

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TERESA:  Thanks for your comments.  There is no such thing as a bad market.  Each market just presents different challenges and opportunities.  People who spend their time focusing on and discussing how "bad the market is" are wasting their time when they should be searching for the opportunities.  In a seller's market, try to work with more sellers.  In a buyer's market, seek out more buyers.  It is as simple as that.  
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Good analysis and conclusions, Brian.  Very professional - you're on top of your market!
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Like I said the median sales price has no bearing on the health of the market.  The number itself is only objective.  Does not say profit or loss, overimproved, or selling below last years price.  It is just an average.  It can also be skewed by more new home sales that sell above market when extras are added in. 
12:36pm • #38
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Great crystal ball...If it only worked!!! So many people only talk about what they are going to do. If prices went to zero, they may find something wrong. Then there are the few that take advantage of the opportunities in any market!
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JEFF:  I appreciate the comment and your compliments.
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JIM: Thanks again for adding your thoughtful perspective. 
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NATHAN:  Thanks for your comments.  You are right -- there is much talk, but until someone turns that into action, it's just that -- talk.
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Just think, if it wasn't for statistics of doom&gloom the media would have nothing to talk about!
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JEFF:  Yes the media has certainly figured out that bad news sells.  It's odd -- people always want the movies to have happy endings, yet in a world with so much good to report, the media only wants to show the bad side of everything.  Thanks for your comments.
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Great advice, I prefer to buy at the top of the market, that way I can see all the way down (looking down is easier than looking up) :)
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STEPHEN:  Thanks for your comments.  Very funny!
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