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Change in Blog Entry Post Date

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We received a bunch of suggestions about being able to change the blog entry post date.  While you still can't change it (because that would lead to people placing their blog post a the top over and over again) we did make a change making Draft mode be more usable.

When you first create a blog entry, if you save it in draft mode the system will update it's post date when you make it public.

Example:  You create a blog entry and save it as Draft (not public, not members-only, etc.)  You come back after three days and make it public (or members-only or associates only).  It will be listed just as if you'd created it today.

This is a one time shot though.  If, a week later, you put this entry back into draft mode, then move it back to public - the date won't change.

Does this make any sense?  Suggestions on how to improve on this are encouraged. 

-ben
Developer, ActiveRain

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S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist

- I second Teresa's request to be able to set the date backwards.

- I reallyreally, REALLY do NOT like the fact that now all our comments are not only dated but are also now time-stamped.

Jan 10, 2007 11:57 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
Why does it bother you that I know that you left above 13 miutes ago at 7:57 Central time Leanne?  I am not so sure I like it either.
Jan 11, 2007 12:12 AM
S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist
There are a few reasons, but one of the "biggies" is I don't want a comment I leave to let readers know I left it at 3:00 AM.  Just as we're allowed to individually decide whether we want our photo to show up on the "who's online" feature, we should be allowed to individually decide whether we want our comments time stamped - otherwise known as the "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas..." syndrome.  I can tell you that if this time-stamp feature stays I will not be commenting as much because I do sometimes comment in the middle of the night when I'm wide awake and can't fall back asleep.  I know for a fact there are others here that comment in the middle of the night, too.
Jan 11, 2007 12:27 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
I agree Leanne.  I think it is an invasion of privacy..
Jan 11, 2007 12:32 AM
Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn

Leanne,

I agree. As you will notice my last comment 6 hours ago( last night) Now it's 9:39 AM. I guess the whole word knows I had six hours sleep and I wake up and go back online.

Jan 11, 2007 12:42 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans
Mitchell.....but I knew also...  ;o)   We spoke on here.......   but yes, I agree. Why add this feature, what does it accomplish?
Jan 11, 2007 12:43 AM
Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn
Jeff, I guess successful people like us don't need sleep lol. But knobody else needs tro know.
Jan 11, 2007 12:46 AM
S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist

Someone "about 18 hours ago" left a comment on this post asking Ben:

<<Now, for your next trick - could you add the "time" element to the response entries?

We have the date and the name but is it possible to add the time?>>

... I think that's why.

Jan 11, 2007 12:49 AM
Ben Wiseley
Kirkland, WA

I'll just say that (as far as I know) every blog system online posts time stamps for blog entries and comments.  Billions of comments are left every day by all types of people all over the world.  

If we make this optional (which I think is a bad idea) you're going to be able to figure out when the comment was left without having to go Sherlock Holmes school.  The comment above and below yours will make it obvious when you left yours.

That leaves us with removing date/time altogether. 

If date/time is relevant for blog posts it's more relevant for comments.  Responding to a comment left last year means you're in a dead conversation. 

Date/time is the way RSS aggregators  (and almost everything is in RSS on AR) sort and group things.  Should we randomize all these dates?

I'm guessing most people get email alerts when comments are left - should we randomize when we send these? 

It's a public system designed for public discussion.  If you're hiding from someone - public places aren't the best place to do that.

Personally I don't care.  I'm always for open information and keeping things as simple as possible (I obviously loose a lot of arguments around here).  But, really, comment dates, pretty low on my "passionate" list.  :)

It's not my call either way. 

Jan 11, 2007 12:55 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans
Ben, part of that does make sense.....
Jan 11, 2007 01:05 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

I think the difference Ben is that we chat here, most real estate blogs don't get this many comments.  Some of us have chat issues... and you may find some of us slow down if there is an online record of our use of time.

I love comment dates.  I am not a fan of comment time.. but maybe that is just because that is brand new and different and a change... if I was a newbie I probably would not notice it.

Jan 11, 2007 01:08 AM
S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist

Comments have always been DATED here on AR, but this is the first time I've seen them TIME-STAMPED so the question of "responding to a comment left last year" is a non-issue.

Yes, the e-mail alerts show the date & time, but new people reading the post & comments don't know the times they were left AND neither do consumers/non-members, just the dates... that should be enough.  This may be a social network but it is also a network of professionals who don't necessarily want consumers to know they're up at 3 AM leaving comments!

Jan 11, 2007 01:11 AM
Ben Wiseley
Kirkland, WA

Fine - they'll be gone in tomorrows build and someone else (Matt) can put them back in if he wants to pursue this argument.   Now go get some sleep!   :)

Meant, obviously, to be a joke...

Home Buyer: "Honey, you know, about that realtor, I mean, she's getting showings for our house, she seems really nice, but I spent 15 hours google'ing her last night, and, well, she's commenting at 3am.  I don't know.  That doesn't seem like something a realtor should be doing."

Honey: "Geeze - your right!  That's outrageous.  Did you take out the trash yet?"

Home Buyer: "No.  I was up til 3am google'ing our realtor.  You know - something else, she's a member of this crazy social network - and their main page says that, even at 3 am, there are usualy 40 people online.  You think it's some kind of cult?"

Honey: "Take out the godam trash!" 

 

 

Jan 11, 2007 01:35 AM
S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist

LOL, Ben... don't worry - I did take it as a joke.  I liked your little "story" - that was funny, except -- actually, I was thinking it would go more like this:

6:25 AM Sunday

HomeSeller:  "Honey, I'm so happy with our Realtor, the one we found on ActiveRain.  You know, she left a voicemail message for us yesterday afternoon asking if it would be OK to show the house today at noon.  Our Realtor seems to be online early in the morning quite a bit... oh, look... she left her last comment just 5 minutes ago... I think I'll call her back now!"

Phone rings, waking up my hubby who's still asleep and I'm not prepared to speak with the sellers... who know I'm awake and CAN pick up the phone.

My point: there is no need for anyone to know what time we leave comments on ActiveRain.

Jan 11, 2007 05:48 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans
Leanne.... what's your point?    ;o)     What were you doing at 10 pm last night?
Jan 11, 2007 05:50 AM
S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist
Jeff... I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.  ;-)
Jan 11, 2007 05:52 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans
cool.....bring it on Mrs Bond...
Jan 11, 2007 05:58 AM
Derek and Mariana Wagner
The Artisan Group- Keller Williams Premier Realty - Colorado Springs, CO
The Artisan Group - Colorado Springs REALTORS®
Ok. Ben is now my favorite RainGod of the day. Thank you Ben for your insight. :o)
Jan 11, 2007 10:14 AM
Derek and Mariana Wagner
The Artisan Group- Keller Williams Premier Realty - Colorado Springs, CO
The Artisan Group - Colorado Springs REALTORS®

I think that we should have to log exactly WHAT we are doing, what we are listening to, what we are wearing, the last thing we ate or drank and who our 1st grade teacher was before we are allowed to post a comment. And since we are all in a cult, then I guess the last thing that we drank would be ... Kool-Aid? I'll take grape flavored, if we get to choose.

 

less than a minute ago at 01/11/2007 06:20 PM by Mariana Wagner ~ Colorado Springs Real Estate Edit Delete

sitting at keyboard. children playing. potato chips. water, er... grape Kool-Aid. Mrs.DeRogatis.
Jan 11, 2007 10:20 AM
Anonymous
Kengo Ueno (R) eCertified, ABR
That's great.  I sometimes wrote it in word form to save and edit it later then copied it to AR by hand again.  Thanks for always making this website more and more user friendly.  You guys are awesome.  Aloha
Jan 12, 2007 03:43 PM
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