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FHA Vs. Conventional: Round 1

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Mortgage and Lending with HomeStreet Bank

FHA Vs. Conventional: Round 1. Who will come out on top for the best loan? Who has the lower rates? Who has the lower fees? The back-story: The conventional 30 year fixed is sponsored by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two big power player. FHA just has one sponsor; Federal Housing Authority. Each has its strengths and weaknesses; who will come out on top of this epic battle? For more information about either program please feel free to contact me.

boxDown payment:

FHA: 3.5% for single family, condominium, duplex, triplex, and fourplex.

Conventional: 3% for single family, most condominiums but then things change. Duplex require a 20% down payment and triplex and fourplex require a 25% down payment.

And the winner of round 1 is: For a single family purchase look at the conventional first and then the FHA loan. For 2 to 4 unit purchases the FHA is the winner by a wide margin if minimizing your down is the priority. Conventional loans with more than 20% down don't require mortgage insurance; that will be a cash flow consideration for buyers with the ability to place a large down on their purchase.

Another thing to consider with regard to the down is that the largest the down the lower the payment and the more likely the property is to cash flow.

Tomorrow we will look at mortgage insurance premiums which can tend to be complicated.

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Joe LaVallie

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Chuck Carstensen
RE/MAX Results - Elk River, MN
Minnesota/Wisconsin Real Estate Expert

I think most people look to the FHA first. Some are starting to look at the conventional but not has much as the FHA.

Oct 29, 2012 03:18 AM
Paul McFadden
Responsive Pest Control - Seattle, WA
Pest Control, Seattle, WA.

Thanks, Joe. I think FHA is often great for first-time homebuyers who can only bring in the minimum down and have a lower credit score. I have to admit I'm not seeing as many of these today. Most seem to have more money saved, higher credit, and it may be less expensive to do a conventional loan due to FHA MI even if the interest rate is slightly higher. Thanks again!

Oct 29, 2012 03:40 AM
Christine Smith
Buyers Brokers Only LLC - www.BuyersBrokersOnly.com - Canton, MA
Exclusive Buyer Agent & Attorney, Canton, MA

Nice comparison Joe.  I am looking forward to round 2!

Oct 29, 2012 04:02 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Joe -- will you be addressing the difference in Mortgage insurance - up front fees tomorrow?

Oct 29, 2012 04:26 AM
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

This is great knowledge for all to know including Realtors so we can better inform our clients.

Oct 29, 2012 05:36 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes tomorrow is mortgage insurance.

 

 

Oct 29, 2012 06:24 AM
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Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

Joe - the enitre mortgage process can be very complicated.  Just wondering if FHA may be better for some than conventional given the LTV ratios.. What say you?

Oct 29, 2012 07:04 AM
Nan Jester
Exit Real Estate Gallery Jacksonville Beach, FL - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Realtor, Exit Real Estate Gallery

In our area, it always boils down to available funds for a down payment. The only exception here is if they can qualify for VA and they also have chosen a property that qualifies for USDA, which are both $0 down payment.

Oct 29, 2012 11:36 PM
Kathy Fuhriman
Bear River Valley Realty - Tremonton, UT

Have not known of a Conventional loan with a 3% down payment-thought they started at 5% down. Is there a trade name to identify the 3% loans?  Any other unique stipulations with this conventional loan?

Oct 30, 2012 12:07 AM
Ron Aguilar
Gateway Mortgage Group - Saint George, UT
Mortgage & Real Estate Advisor since 1995

With my clients as a mortgager lender, the discussion of FHA versus Conventional can be very lengthy. Realtors should pick a lender that can really explain the short and long term effects.

Oct 30, 2012 12:46 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Good comparison post showing the 'winner' each with it's set of circumstances & rules.

Oct 30, 2012 02:26 AM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Joe, great post with good info.  The rink pic really caught our eye!

Oct 30, 2012 02:32 AM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Joe:

I like your comparison.  Good information.  I look forward to reading round 2.  Personally, most of my clients who are buying up use conventional loans.

Oct 30, 2012 05:31 AM
Beth Paterson
Reverse Mortgages SIDAC, LLC, NMLS #1790592 - Saint Paul, MN
CRMP, NMLS #342859

Thanks for sharing the comparison, Joe!  I specialize in reverse mortgages which only has the FHA option but I enjoy learning so I can explain and help my borrowers have a better understanding between the conventional and forward FHA.  And I look forward to the post about MIPs.

Oct 30, 2012 11:50 AM
Rob Spinosa
US Bank - Larkspur, CA
Mortgage Loan Originator, Marin County

"The devil dwells in the details."  I just had a deal go FHA and the LTV was 84%.  I had to keep reminding myself why I was structuring it that way, because on paper, I wanted to give this client a conventional loan and save him some money on his MI.  But the issues were these; it was a condo, we didn't know how it would appraise (and a lower value would have severely hampered our ability to go conventional), and debt ratio.

In the end, we got it done and FHA was the right tool for the job.  But if we just looked at the numbers on the MI, it would have ended up in a program that would have had big problems.

Great post --- looking forward to Round 2.

Oct 30, 2012 10:47 PM
Rob Renk
Center Street Lending - McKinney, TX
AE | Fast Fix/Flip Loans for Residential Investors

I agree conventional is the way to go unless you have some credit score issues and FHA will take the loan.

Nov 04, 2012 08:08 PM