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Do you remove a listing to reset the number of days on the market -DOM

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Managing Real Estate Broker with Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., NHRE# 02863

 

Do you advise or do you practice the re-setting of “Days on Market”?

This question struck me as I showed a condo at 9am on a Sunday morning.

The buyer asked his agent (with me as the listing agent) standing near by: Is there something wrong with the place – it’s been listed for 6 months?

                                                                       

The buyer’s agent gave a reasonable answer: “the market is slower in the winter and properties do tend to stay on a bit longer”. OK…reasonable.

 

It’s not my place to speak to the buyer’s directly…but – some of the other issues we run into during the winter months are: It is the least favorable time of the year to move (pack and transport)…in the ski resort area we often have rentals going on in condos at the same time people would like to view them for sales (and paying guests don’t have to let you in)…and like this morning 9am on a Sunday is not always a great time to schedule showings. So the buyer is always right…even when they don’t get the whole story.                                    

 

So the question remains – do you take a property off the market to re-set the days and try to make the place look like it’s a new listing??

All the area agents know each others listing, they know when something goes off and comes back on 30+ days later that it is a ploy being employed.

So…Why do it? As I hinted it takes a month for a property to be off the market until you can relist…the seller can of course list with another agent the same day and it will appear as a new listing in the public’s eyes. But assuming the seller is loyal…Expiring the listing waiting a month and placing it back on will re-set the Days on Market to (1) again. If it is a seasonal market like mine a rest period can have a good effect.

                                                            

Prospect management software: Most MLS software now allows a agent to enter his prospects criteria in an automatic notification system – that alerts a buyer of any “NEW” listing when it comes on (so long as it has what is being searched for)…will they notice it was sent before –maybe/maybe not?

Change the photos and the date: If expiring a listing in the spring allows new pictures to be updated…with the snow gone, new paint and a green landscape – that is a good idea. If in my case mud season is so quite you’ll miss no buyers by taking it off…What is the down side?

Calling all prior buyers: Like many agents we are looking for any excuse to call old prospects when something they have already seen changes in some way. Most of the time it’s a price change or an added incentive that changes. But – in most listing contracts, the listing agent has a period of protection, where a prior showing would be honored under the terms of the listing (grandfathered) for some time frame or until it is listed with another agency. So calling prior lookers to tell them it’s off the market but their offer would be allowed for a brief period of time – can be a fire under their butt.

 

Do you expire or withdraw a listing to re-set the days on Market…Why do you – or- why would you not undertake this practice?

  

Seasons change will you let a property stay on the market too long or do everything you can to move it to the sold column??

 

 

 

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Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA
In my market , you cant reset the number of days a listing has been in the market....even if they change agents.
Mar 17, 2013 01:19 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

For the record there is nothing ethically wrong with allowing a property to expire waiting 30 days and re-listing...seller change their minds all the time -or want to make repairs and not have a property shown during those updates.

Mar 17, 2013 01:20 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Steve, Our MLS recently made a change so it's cumulative DOM being reported.  We will still periodically canx/relist the same day just to force a listing back out to autosearches just in case someone missed it the first time.

Mar 17, 2013 01:22 AM
Linda Blumenthal
631-819-2913 - Westhampton Beach, NY
NYS Licenced Real Estate Salesperson, CBR

Good morning Steve.  When I research a property I always look at the history of the listing.  That way I can advise my clients of the actual time on the market, the number of times it has been listed, etc.

Mar 17, 2013 01:23 AM
Kristen Wheatley
Better Homes & Gardens | The Masiello Group - Brunswick, ME
Supporting Success - Best Job in the World!

A lot of folks had been doing that here, so our MLS changed the rules.  It now has to be off market for 90 days to show as a new listing if it is re-listed with the same agent.  Buyers here are also starting to learn that the DOM has more to do with how long it takes the seller to agree to get the price in line with the market.  No matter how long a home has been on the market, once that happens, the offers start coming in.

Mar 17, 2013 01:29 AM
Kathy Stoltman
Ventura, CA
RETIRED

Our MLS does show the cumulative DOM unless it has been off the market for awhile, but then any agent can see the history.  As Kristen states, lingering on the market usually points to a price that may not be in line or a very uncooperative seller.

Mar 17, 2013 01:51 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

It is very interesting - each state has a different rule about the Days on Market. I do what ever is best for my client, so long as it is not a violation of the state (or regional) board of Realtors requirements.

Mar 17, 2013 02:01 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Fernando, Bill & Liz, Linda, Kristen and Kathy...The automatic prospecting software makes it worth resetting an old listing, especially as the market improves and the property becomes more in-line with current listings. As a listing agent I would hate to have a buyer not see the perfect place just because it was listed in the dead of winter.

Mar 17, 2013 02:05 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

our rule is still 30 days also.  And our sellers often take property off the market mid december to mid january and then put it back on for the hot selling season.

Mar 17, 2013 05:33 AM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Our MLS has a history of days on market so if you take it of and put it back on or even if it is listed with another agent the history shows up.

Mar 17, 2013 05:48 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Tammy...I hope they don't change it here either.

Mar 17, 2013 07:16 AM
Kristen Wheatley
Better Homes & Gardens | The Masiello Group - Brunswick, ME
Supporting Success - Best Job in the World!

I agree Steve.  It is the listing agent's job to do what is in the best interest of their seller client.  It is the seller's best interest to have the listing show up to as many folks as possible, so no complaints from me.  We just had a bunch of people complain, so our MLS responded.  When it falls within the rules, I say go for it!

Mar 18, 2013 02:58 AM
Steve Loynd
Alpine Lakes Real Estate Inc., - Lincoln, NH
800-926-5653, White Mountains NH

Kristen... did you see the football player who lost his 30 million dollar contract...because it was 6 minutes late in the fax. Rules are rules.

Mar 18, 2013 10:51 AM
Kristen Wheatley
Better Homes & Gardens | The Masiello Group - Brunswick, ME
Supporting Success - Best Job in the World!

:-)

Mar 19, 2013 01:57 AM