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One Out Of Two Can't Be That Bad, Can It?

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

When you're talking about venting two furnaces through the same chimney, one out of two can't be that bad, can it?

After all, the best baseball lifetime batting average for all time was Ty Cobb's .366.  That's barely better than 1/3!  His average is the best ever, and he failed 2 out of 3 times!

So, how can .500 be so bad?

These two oil-burning furnaces in this remodeled house were jammed to tightly into a small closet that in order to even see the vents I had to lean forward and hold my camera out at an angle.

Taking many photos, this one was very useful!

Obviously one of the two exhaust vents is not connected to the chimney!  Hey, at least they are batting .500!

Might that be the reason we smelled oil in the house?

It could also be the fact that the two furnaces were in horrible condition. 

The space in front of each was about 15", so getting into there to do any service to the units requires a very small man! 

It could be no tech can fit in there!

Certainly there has to be enough room in front of furnaces for any service to be performed or the closet that houses them is inappropriate, unthinking and would not be approved by any jurisdictional authority.

Hence my suspicion that there was no permit for any of the remodeling!

I immediately wanted the doors and a couple of windows opened for the rest of the time we were there.  Carbon monoxide has no odor and I was not going to take any chances.  I had a long drive afterward and did not want to get sick or sleepy!  I have experienced CO poisoning before, obviously minor, and it is no picnic.  That previous time left me feeling like I had a serious flu and severe headache.

My recommendation:  on inspections it is important that the entirety of appliances be investigated.  And particularly gas or oil-fired appliance vents!  Disconnections, corrosion, rust and holes are NOT uncommon!  They MUST, MUST, MUST be identified if present.

 

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(14)

Clint Mckie
Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections - Carlsbad, NM
Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586

Hi Jay,

This is the exact reason they did'nt have any C/O detectors in the home. They would have been going off all the time. What a mess. I used to see this a lot back in Michigan. But not so much here.

Have a good daby in Bristow my friend.

Best, Clint McKie

Mar 31, 2013 09:52 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

They might have been singing Clint!  We have a lot of these appliances out here.

Mar 31, 2013 09:57 PM
Karen Kruschka
RE/MAX Executives - Woodbridge, VA
- "My Experience Isn't Expensive - It's PRICELESS"

Jay  Timely post - I'm putting a listing on today that had holes in gas furnace vents that the owner discovered accidentally when he was prepping the home to list

Mar 31, 2013 11:01 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's such a good find Karen.  Good for him and good for his proactivity.

Mar 31, 2013 11:08 PM
Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

15" is plenty of room... you couldn't shimmy in there and wrap a little duct tape around it? It is a duct right? I would have (cough cough) done that if I was (cough cough) there for them!

Mar 31, 2013 11:50 PM
Than Maynard
Coldwell Banker Heart of Oklahoma - Purcell, OK
Broker - Licensed to List & Sell - 405-990-8862

Lucky they are still alive! Do any of the firms advertise super skinny service techs? Might be a new niche!

Apr 01, 2013 03:08 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Jay -- isn't this one of those situations where Charles Dickens would have had one of Fagin's group going in to the the repairs? 

Apr 01, 2013 05:15 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I could almost squeeze in there Fred, when I was 11!

With work like this Than, that would be a well-received service!

That's good Steven, because Charles surely couldn't have fit!

Apr 01, 2013 10:32 AM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Morning Jay my comment the other day about going on a rant is difficult to explain.  Anyway enjoy the day sir.

Apr 01, 2013 07:40 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's alright James, I have ranted enough here for both of us!

Apr 01, 2013 08:09 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

It is amazing that appliance venting seems to have little importance to some people. 

Apr 01, 2013 09:38 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

And who knows when this happened Jim!  Perhaps years ago.  The units were in awful condition.  Well, what I could see anyway...

Apr 01, 2013 09:44 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jay, I had an oil furnace just about a week ago. In my land that is an absolute oddity. It had a hole in the exhaust duct. That not quite at bad as your connector but the same results.

Apr 02, 2013 02:29 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

It's all the same Don!  And bad when found.

Apr 02, 2013 05:03 AM