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Discount Brokers, BEWARE!!

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with PCA Realty, Inc.

I have just about had it with agents taking over-priced listings with a pittance for commissions!  It's still happening here in good ol' Whitestone, Bayside, Flushing,  New York.  These agents ruin it for the rest of the professionals who really work for their money.  They don't want to invite co-brokes because the split is so low.  Can't mention numbers, but you get the idea.  Some of these agents do actually sell it themselves, but that's the whole point.  And the sellers aren't even aware of what the listing says.  In fact, I've seen some expireds who signed up for higher commissions, only to learn, after the fact, that their agent put it on MLS for far less to the selling agent.  What a surprise! The listing agent keeps more that the selling agent. Some MLS's have rules that it's 50/50 but not here! 

Some of these agents/brokers are "upstanding" professionals in my brokerage community, and they should be ashamed of themselves.  Others are just looking to make the phone ring and chances are the listing won't sell anyway.  They put up their sign and just let it sit.  If it's not priced right, they still get many buyer calls from the sign.    Sometimes another agent will sell, (co-broke) sometimes not.  I should explain that we are still mainly a seller agency area. 

To top it all of, there are approximately 3 for-sale-by-owners in one town alone.  And they are getting buyers directly.  They ARE selling themselves. The sellers in this area, Whitestone, Bayside, Flushing are pretty arrogant since they feel that they will attract buyers on their own.   The market here is not as slow as some other areas of the country, so they still feel that they don't need agents/brokers.   Some are expireds who are tired of the BS from agents they used, but the whole marketing plan, or lack of one, was all wrong.  If I want to sell my property, don't I want to put it on for an attractive fee? 

I would rather take them to another house, and I do. If the buyer insists on seeing a property with a joke for a commssion, I will simply present the offer with the contingency that the deal is based on me getting a certain fee.  The trick to this is that you must do this directly to the seller, with the agent and seller either on a conference call or in person.  If the seller has listed for a larger fee, the seller will know something's wrong with the conversation.  Worth a try anyway.  What's the worst that can happen? They say no to the fee but yes to the deal?  Don't know until you ASK! 

I am just about to start reading the book "Waging War on Discount Brokers" by Bernice Ross.  I will get back to you on that!   

Discount agents should be aware that they ruin their reputation, not to mention that of their broker, and the entire real estate trade.  (As a broker/owner, I have a policy on fees.  Anything under a certain number will not be taken as a co-broke)  It's just not worth it.   

Maybe to some of you it is.  That's sad!

Melina Tomson
Tomson Burnham, llc Licensed in the State of Oregon - Salem, OR
Principal Broker/Owner, M.S.
I think you should be cautious in assuming this is just a discount issue.  I have seen major national franchises offer 1% on our MLS.  If you can't get a buyer agency agreement signed guaranteeing you a minimum commission, then I think you should re-evaulate your business practices. Not sure why your vehemence is directed at discounters.  The consumers have choices, and are allowed to make up their own minds. I have seen crappy agents charge 7%, so more commission money is not a guarantee of anything.
Feb 13, 2008 03:28 AM
R. B. "Bob" Mitchell - Loan Officer Raleigh/Durham
Bank of England (NMLS#418481) - Raleigh, NC
Bob Mitchell (NMLS#1046286)

I'll have to check that book out....being the owner of one of the country's oldest discount real estate brokerages, I'd have to say that there is a reason that we exist.  If nothing else, why does it cost three times as much to sell a $300,000.00 home than it does a $100,000.00 home?  Is there 3 times as much work involved?

Are there bad discounters out there?  Yep!  Are there bad traditional agents out there....definately!

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

Feb 13, 2008 03:29 AM
Paula C. Annarumma
PCA Realty, Inc. - Whitestone, NY

In New York State, we must be careful for menu of services, since this has shown to be somewhat illegal in our state.  So it is a state by state issue.  In response to: does it take more effort to sell a chaeper versus a more expensive home, you bet!  My average sales price is about $650 and there is plenty above $1 million.  Those sales are very tough, because there is so much competition for sellers,  ie, lots of inventory in the $1 million plus range.  That doesn't include our astronomical NY closing costs, and on new construction, guess what, buyer must pay 1.875 % of the sales price as a transfer tax, AND a millionaire tax of another 10%.  Sounds easy?  I'd rather have the STARTER LISTING home at $500K anytime since they go faster anyway.  My market is very unique, and the happiest real estate day for me was when Foxton's announced they were closing down!

I have never heard of anyone in my market place getting a buyer to sign a buyer agency agreement.  It's just not done here.       I am in real estate for over 24 years!

Feb 13, 2008 03:45 AM